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Reply #195 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:25pm
 
It is the same thing with hail. Hail does not become more frequent or bigger as the globe cools.

With AGW more moisture in the air. Hotter land can create huge updrafts, sending moisture high in the atmosphere. With the temperatures there, with adiabatic cooling the moisture freezes and can accrete a few layers of ice, then it starts to fall and for a long way, until under the cloud of the thunderstorm, it can continue to accrete more ice, hailstones can conglomerate together etc.

I pointed that out to Dubyne on Twitter—he lied about two hail falls damaging aeroplanes over the US. Hope he appreciates me correcting him  Smiley

IF there was a GSM and the globe cooled the 0.13–0.3°C it would cool with a GSM there would be a smidge less moisture in the air and a tad less updraft in thunderstorms. So bit less, smaller hail until AGW wiped out the trivial bit of cooling.
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Reply #196 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:03pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
With AGW more moisture in the air.



Is that different from natural warming? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #197 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
It is the same thing with hail. Hail does not become more frequent or bigger as the globe cools.



It always makes me laugh when Bobby tries to use hail as evidence of his iceage.
Most hail, especially the large hail stones, form in thunderstorms which are mostly in warm humid climates.
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Reply #198 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
It is the same thing with hail. Hail does not become more frequent or bigger as the globe cools.



It always makes me laugh when Bobby tries to use hail as evidence of his iceage.
Most hail, especially the large hail stones, form in thunderstorms which are mostly in warm humid climates.



That's strange - I've mostly seen hail in Winter.
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Reply #199 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:15pm
 
So now that Autumn has finished in Australia, lets check out how cold it was since we are heading into an ice age.

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Dear o dear, pretty much the entire continent was above average over Autumn
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Reply #200 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm
 
Why did Melbourne , Geelong & for 100s of kms around have the coldest week since 1982?
Just now.
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Reply #201 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 12:25pm:
It is the same thing with hail. Hail does not become more frequent or bigger as the globe cools.



It always makes me laugh when Bobby tries to use hail as evidence of his iceage.
Most hail, especially the large hail stones, form in thunderstorms which are mostly in warm humid climates.



That's strange - I've mostly seen hail in Winter.


Not me.  Summer storms often bring hail.
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Reply #202 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
Why did Melbourne , Geelong & for 100s of kms around have the coldest week since 1982?
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No Bobby, you are just as bad as lee in misrepresenting the facts.
Melbourne overnight temperatures were the coldest for the first week in June since 1982.

Why? The clue is the last time it happened was 1982. It was during a drought.
High pressure systems produce cold mornings and dry days. It has nothing to do with an ice age
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Reply #203 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:27pm
 
Or this one for May -

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Last month seems to have cooled substantially. Wink
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Reply #204 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 12:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
Why did Melbourne , Geelong & for 100s of kms around have the coldest week since 1982?
Just now.


Yes I agree that we have had some cold mornings this past week.
Lets have a look at the daytime temperatures for the first week in June.

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Oh dear Bobby. Looks like you are looking quite foolish again.

Autumn was above average for almost the entire nation. The daytime temperatures were above average for the first week in June, but what does Bobby do? He cherry picks a few local cold mornings.

Thats called confirmation bias Bobby. You only choose the data that you agree with. You've got over 300 pages of that rubbish on the ice age thread.
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Reply #205 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 12:26pm
 
Maybe you should go to -

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/data/index.shtml

Select map maximum temperture and then check out the amount of smearing going on. You know the places where there are no temperature stations. Wink
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