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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #15 - May 25^th, 2018 at 6:35am

Dnarever wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 10:01pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

How ridiculous. The murdoch stations get things wrong all the time.

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They aren’t funded by taxpayers!

They also are not bullied by government.

The government has a say in the ABC because it funds it! Roll Eyes

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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #16 - May 25^th, 2018 at 6:37am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

How ridiculous. The murdoch stations get things wrong all the time.

Spot

They aren’t funded by taxpayers!

So if something is funded by taxpayers it needs to be biased to the right instead of unbiased? Or equal parts?

Spot

ABC is supposed to be unbiased, but Blind Freddie can see it is grossly biased to the Left side of politics. If you can't see that, I suggest you visit Specsavers or OPSM to get your eyesight checked.

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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #18 - May 25^th, 2018 at 7:07am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:53pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 11:03am:

The ABC, however, is not so vague and not so soft. A 2013 survey of journalists revealed that 41.3% of ABC journalists intended to vote Greens at the 2013 election. That compares with 19.8% of journalists at both Fairfax and News and just 8.7% of the electorate.

This confirms my belief, that you don't get anyone more politically informed than a journalist - and an ABC journalist, more so

It take a special level of brain damage to vote green and totally devoid of any basic intelligence to be one. No wonder hardly any one trusts journos in this day and age, they are just as fkking stupid the cretins they vote for.

SARAH Hanson-Young has made an embarrassing blunder claiming Australia Day is celebrated in memory of Captain Cook’s landing at Botany Bay rather than commemorating arrival of the First Fleet.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/greens-senator-sarah-hansonyo...

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Reply #19 - May 25^th, 2018 at 7:15am

too right Big Ol.

the greens are nihilstic and lost.
they see the west as the root of all evil and they see capitalism as the core problem with the world.

so ANYTHING that is against the west or against business is to be supported.

radical islam, open borders, socialism, the closure of businesses, and the following are to be hated corporations, christianity and judaism, the motor vehicle, energy production.

but these pampered imbiciles are the last people who could survive in a mud hut.

thats what is so galling to the people who do the hard yards , so that the greens can sit around sucking on a soy late and poo talking our great country.

white ants and traitors.

and the fact that the majority of ABC journalists who expressed a political affiliation expressed one for the greens....reprehensible.

the ABC should be shut down.
it has 4 tv channels and numerous radio channels.

polluting young minds with self loathing propaganda.
the suicide rate would drop if this self loathing media enterprise ceased to exist

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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #20 - May 25^th, 2018 at 7:37am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 25^th, 2018 at 6:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

How ridiculous. The murdoch stations get things wrong all the time.

Spot

They aren’t funded by taxpayers!

So if something is funded by taxpayers it needs to be biased to the right instead of unbiased? Or equal parts?

Spot

ABC is supposed to be unbiased, but Blind Freddie can see it is grossly biased to the Left side of politics.

Perhaps "Blind Freddie" should head the next inquiry into alleged ABC left wing bias ?

He might dig up some "dirt" on the ABC that the

Howard Government

inquiry - led by a "head-kicker", personally selected by Howard
- just couldn't

https://www.theguardian.com/media/datablog/2014/feb/06/australian-broadcasting-c...

The

Libnats

still insisted the ABC had a "left-wing bias" - even after it, at the last hour, stacked the board with right wing "academics" - when it became clear the electorate was ditcing them in favour of the

Rudd Labor Government

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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #21 - May 25^th, 2018 at 10:07am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 25^th, 2018 at 6:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

How ridiculous. The murdoch stations get things wrong all the time.

Spot

They aren’t funded by taxpayers!

So if something is funded by taxpayers it needs to be biased to the right instead of unbiased? Or equal parts?

Spot

ABC is supposed to be unbiased, but Blind Freddie can see it is grossly biased to the Left side of politics. If you can't see that, I suggest you visit Specsavers or OPSM to get your eyesight checked.

ABC is biased to the right (because of the govt bullying) just less right than the others because they try to be unbiased.

Spot

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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #22 - May 25^th, 2018 at 7:31pm

aquascoot wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

when one goes to the football, one is always surrounded by "fat steve" and "fat janeen" and they are always very critical of the players . a player will drop the ball or miss a tackle and steve and janeen love to squeal .

thats just how people are.

no humility and no self awareness.

an ABC journalist should be very humble because, they are actually doing nothing, risking nothing, producing nothing and are at the very bottom of the dominance hierachy.

hearing an ABC journalist squealing and scalding is appalling.

one can only feel sympathy for someone who is so mediocre and still thinks they have any sort of relevance

Oh - I dunno - when I view football I'm usually in either my State of Origin jacket or my Wallabies jacket, and I look pretty fit at near 69.... putting on a little around the belt though..

I like the ABC, though I am doubtful about their pre-occupation with sheilas and especially those with that snappy way of delivering commentary or even questions, often with serial interruptions to answers.

If you ask a question, love, give the man a chance to answer it before you shred him...

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Re: This is why ABC funding was cut
Reply #23 - May 25^th, 2018 at 7:34pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2018 at 10:07am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 25^th, 2018 at 6:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 1:10pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

How ridiculous. The murdoch stations get things wrong all the time.

Spot

They aren’t funded by taxpayers!

So if something is funded by taxpayers it needs to be biased to the right instead of unbiased? Or equal parts?

Spot

ABC is supposed to be unbiased, but Blind Freddie can see it is grossly biased to the Left side of politics. If you can't see that, I suggest you visit Specsavers or OPSM to get your eyesight checked.

ABC is biased to the right (because of the govt bullying) just less right than the others because they try to be unbiased.

Spot

Management has been stacked with right-wing Phalangists, and every survey of ABC since the Abbott Years has shown they have been forced to being more to the right than the left. Poor Tony shed tears of blood over their alleged 'left wing' bias....

To some uneducated clowns, though, anything that is vaguely critical of City Hall is somehow rabid Communism and anything that supports a failed and fatally to this nation flawed status quo is the word of God .... you just can't help fools.... Cool

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Reply #24 - May 26^th, 2018 at 12:09pm

This is my first real post here, since the 'Welcome'. Excuse me if I am unfamiliar with the overall forum style yet. Politics is a vast subject, but this thread looks like a good place to begin, as the changes that have taken place at the ABC over the past decade are partly the reason I ran a search for 'Australian Politics Forum', found this one and joined today.

I was a loyal listener to ABC local radio from 2001 when I first moved to rural Australia and ABC was about all there was to tune to for the weather. I have followed the tv news since then, and joined their 'The Drum' web forum in 2009, and have maintained a close observation of the ABCNews24 tv station since 2013, including The Drum afternoon programme. There has been a major change of policy at the ABC over these years, and I think I have a rough idea about what might have led to this change.

There was an article on ABC's The Drum forum a few years ago, not long before they closed the comments section and sold out to facebook in 2016. I do not remember the author's name, or that of the article, but I remember what the subject was and I strongly disagreed then and still do now.

The article was concerned with journalists reporting, not just the news in an objective manner, but adding their own opinions on that news, for the sakes of readers who were unable to make their own decisions.

Perhaps this is allowable for an editorial piece in a magazine, if it is privately owned. I do not think that it is the role of a taxpayer-funded public-broadcaster to broadcast their own opinions under the cloak of objective news.

I believe that this is where the ABC has been mistaken recently. Maybe I was just not aware of the personal bias of their reporters until the past decade? So many people I know still seem blind to it even today.

It is only this last decade that I have had the time and inclination to study the ABC carefully and observe the opinions of the reporters every day all day over years, including the political bias - highlighting or twisting the objective facts to suit their agenda, and downplaying mention or omitting facts which are against their own opinions.

This is not what Australians want from a government-funded public-broadcaster. What is required is simply objective reporting, without any subjective personal opinions to cloud the facts. If a reader or viewer doesn't understand the objective facts, then let them ask someone they know and trust about things, and that does not include strangers on the television.

If the ABC journos can learn to keep their personal opinions to themselves during working hours, when I am paying them, then they should not be sacked, and maybe after a probationary period, they might not need to be privatised.

It is time for the ABC fake news to stop, whatever it takes.

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Reply #25 - May 26^th, 2018 at 12:25pm

Imrah wrote on May 26^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

This is my first real post here, since the 'Welcome'. Excuse me if I am unfamiliar with the overall forum style yet. Politics is a vast subject, but this thread looks like a good place to begin, as the changes that have taken place at the ABC over the past decade are partly the reason I ran a search for 'Australian Politics Forum', found this one and joined today.

I was a loyal listener to ABC local radio from 2001 when I first moved to rural Australia and ABC was about all there was to tune to for the weather. I have followed the tv news since then, and joined their 'The Drum' web forum in 2009, and have maintained a close observation of the ABCNews24 tv station since 2013, including The Drum afternoon programme. There has been a major change of policy at the ABC over these years, and I think I have a rough idea about what might have led to this change.

There was an article on ABC's The Drum forum a few years ago, not long before they closed the comments section and sold out to facebook in 2016. I do not remember the author's name, or that of the article, but I remember what the subject was and I strongly disagreed then and still do now.

The article was concerned with journalists reporting, not just the news in an objective manner, but adding their own opinions on that news, for the sakes of readers who were unable to make their own decisions.

Perhaps this is allowable for an editorial piece in a magazine, if it is privately owned. I do not think that it is the role of a taxpayer-funded public-broadcaster to broadcast their own opinions under the cloak of objective news.

I believe that this is where the ABC has been mistaken recently. Maybe I was just not aware of the personal bias of their reporters until the past decade? So many people I know still seem blind to it even today.

It is only this last decade that I have had the time and inclination to study the ABC carefully and observe the opinions of the reporters every day all day over years, including the political bias - highlighting or twisting the objective facts to suit their agenda, and downplaying mention or omitting facts which are against their own opinions.

This is not what Australians want from a government-funded public-broadcaster. What is required is simply objective reporting, without any subjective personal opinions to cloud the facts. If a reader or viewer doesn't understand the objective facts, then let them ask someone they know and trust about things, and that does not include strangers on the television.

If the ABC journos can learn to keep their personal opinions to themselves during working hours, when I am paying them, then they should not be sacked, and maybe after a probationary period, they might not need to be privatised.

It is time for the ABC fake news to stop, whatever it takes.

Bullshit....There is a distinct difference between news and opinion....The shows that produce opinions have both right and left commentators voicing their own opinions in a format that allows discussion and different views....News is news and only reports the facts not opinion....Every opinion based program on the ABC has both left and right leaning commentators to maintain balance....You only see bias when the opinions disagree with your own beliefs???

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Reply #26 - May 26^th, 2018 at 12:51pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 26^th, 2018 at 12:25pm:

Bullshit....News is news and only reports the facts not opinion....

Thank you for your prompt and most argumentative reply, Phil. It has been a while and I had forgotten how agressive politics is.

I wish what you wrote was true, but if you watch that ABCNews24 station for a few years, constantly, you will start to notice the they are not just selling opinions in their talk shows, which are clearly rigged so that the left always gets more airplay than the right, but they are also selling their opinions under the guise of news too.

I also wish that I was so stupid as to have taken objection only to the things that I disagree with, because that ignorance would be bliss right now, but I guess I must have watched too much tv to be sucked in anymore.

No bullshit. This is a real change by the ABC over the past decade, and they have also published at least one 'editorial' that supports the inclusion of reporters' opinions in the actual news. They want to help the less educated viewer/reader to understand their opinions - that is what is called propaganda.

I will see if I can go through some of the massive number of news stories on their website which I have saved to demonstrate, but if you are suffering from the same problem that you just accused me of, then it is not likely worth my time and effort.

Let's see how the replies work out over the next few days, and if no one else has noticed this ABC preference for fake news, then I guess I will have to delve through all my copies and see if there are still links to the online site. It is very obvious if you open your mind, Phil.

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Reply #28 - May 26^th, 2018 at 1:36pm

Imrah wrote on May 26^th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 26^th, 2018 at 12:25pm:

Bullshit....News is news and only reports the facts not opinion....

Thank you for your prompt and most argumentative reply, Phil. It has been a while and I had forgotten how agressive politics is.

I wish what you wrote was true, but if you watch that ABCNews24 station for a few years, constantly, you will start to notice the they are not just selling opinions in their talk shows, which are clearly rigged so that the left always gets more airplay than the right, but they are also selling their opinions under the guise of news too.

I also wish that I was so stupid as to have taken objection only to the things that I disagree with, because that ignorance would be bliss right now, but I guess I must have watched too much tv to be sucked in anymore.

No bullshit. This is a real change by the ABC over the past decade, and they have also published at least one 'editorial' that supports the inclusion of reporters' opinions in the actual news. They want to help the less educated viewer/reader to understand their opinions - that is what is called propaganda.

I will see if I can go through some of the massive number of news stories on their website which I have saved to demonstrate, but if you are suffering from the same problem that you just accused me of, then it is not likely worth my time and effort.

Let's see how the replies work out over the next few days, and if no one else has noticed this ABC preference for fake news, then I guess I will have to delve through all my copies and see if there are still links to the online site. It is very obvious if you open your mind, Phil.

No worries mate....I would be interested to see these bias opinions and who is making the call....Over to you???

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Reply #29 - May 26^th, 2018 at 1:41pm

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I wish what you wrote was true, but if you watch that ABCNews24 station for a few years, constantly, you will start to notice the they are not just selling opinions in their talk shows, which are clearly rigged so that the left always gets more airplay than the right, but they are also selling their opinions under the guise of news too.

Unless there is some decent sport on, all I watch, during the day, is ABC News TV, and I have never seen a 'panel show' once.

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