http://aboutislam.net/muslim-issues/australia/ramadan-australia-organizing-time-...
SYDNEY – The holy month of Ramadan is about spirituality and social solidarity. But for Ramia Abdo Sultan, a busy working mother, Ramadan is also about being organized enough to handle her career and house.
“Apart from the important spiritual aspect of the month-long fast from dawn to dusk, it’s all about planning ahead for my three school-aged children, aged 11, 9 and 7,” the Muslim mother Ramia Abdo Sultan told ABC on May 17.

I love the fasting part.... I personally think we eat 2 much and 2 often, 2/3 of Australia is overweight and could learn from some old wisdom 

Mattyfisk wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 10:29am:


I eat and 10am and then 6-7pm at night when I work , its labour and usually do about 12 hours a day and I have more energy now than when I used to eat breakky.
Not working usually do the 6-18 so eat about 2pm then again about 6pm or just once a day, doing it for a year I'm almost same weight I was when I was 20 

Baronvonrort wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 10:55am:


Strange. I've been to restaurants all over Malaysia and Indonesia during Ramadan, all full of people eating.

I'm not sure what apostasy and death penalties have to do with fasting for spiritual growth. You?

Mattyfisk wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 11:04am:



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Baronvonrort wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 11:08am:


That's interesting, Baron. Dubai is a major international tourist destination.

However, the key word is public.

You can eat, drink and smoke inside.

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 12:20pm:

ok u need excess calories to  make body fat, where is that coming from if u fast ?
Full fast u will use about 250g of fat a day. Takes about 8 hours to start using body fat, our bodies never go into bear style hibernation and make more fat.
If u fasted one day and ate like a pig the next week u would put on weight though

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 12:46pm:

Actually for me the more I fast the less I want to snack, I start of realize a lot of the time its more habit than hunger and I need to talk myself into eating if more than a day.

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 12:46pm:


Its not just about gorging during eating times, its also the fact that if your body thinks you are starving it goes into survival mode by drastically lowering metabolism - which makes you burn less calories than you normally would. Its why people going on diets typically experience an initial fast drop in their weight, followed by a long period of stagnant weight, before they start losing weight again.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 3:45pm:

actually its opposite your Metabolism actually goes up, if u don't eat for a few days and everything slowed down you would never eat again. Survival mode kicks in everything goes into overdrive so u can catch food again, that's the whole ketosis thing .
Fat is our perfect food , we make it for when we don't eat and our brain and bodies love it.
Starvation mode will finally kick in when u use up all the body fat (body builders still about 9%)

Gordon wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 3:47pm:


Do you know? I have never been to Pattaya.

You?

Mattyfisk wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 7:32pm:


Didn't you go there for R&R and poon during the war?

My first time in Thailand I caught the public bus from Bangkok to Rayong (to get the ferry to Ko Samet) and it went thru Pattaya, but only to the bus station on the egde of town.

I was young and tender then and knew nothing about what goes on in a place like that.

Yuck

miketrees wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 7:45pm:


Not at all, Mike, they're age-old techniques to purify one's body and let go of the ego. Charity is also a function of Ramadan. Be nice to others, your family, animals, yourself, everyone.

What could possibly be ritualistic about that?

freediver wrote on May 23^rd, 2018 at 9:19pm:
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https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/intermittent-fasting-metabolismShort-Term Fasts Boost Metabolism by up to 14%
Many people believe that skipping meals will cause your body to adapt by lowering its metabolic rate to save energy.
It's well established that very long periods without food can cause a drop in metabolism (28, 29).
However, studies have shown that fasting for short periods can actually increase your metabolism, not slow it down (30, 31).
One study in 11 healthy men found that a 3-day fast actually increased their metabolism by an impressive 14% (26).

Personally just not eating breakfast while working (plus loosing 10kg) I work the same in the morning but in the afternoon around 2 always felt down (run of of glucogen and hit a wall) now I work all afternoon never get tired.
Almost all I heard about fasting was wrong, I always thought if I didn't eat I would loose muscle mass as well, not happened ..I surprise myself now when I take off my shirt I feel like a old man but look like a young one
Jason Fung is the man to track down, a amazing guy.

Middle East studies show many people tend to gain weight during Ramadan.

egyptindependent.com/five-tips-avoid-weight-gain-ramadan/

gulfnews.com/gn-focus/special-reports/ramadan/how-to-lose-weight-during-ramadan-
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Actually every religion/culture has their version & purpose of fasting but no one makes a big showcase of it like Muslims , partly because in many Muslim countries its not out of freewill where in some places those caught eating in Ramadan are punished etc. Now look at the verse of the Quran giving instructions on fasting time.

It has been made permissible for you the night preceding fasting to go to your wives [for sexual relations]. They are clothing for you and you are clothing for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He accepted your repentance and forgave you. So now, have relations with them and seek that which Allah has decreed for you. And eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct to you from the black thread [of night]. Then complete the fast until the sunset. And do not have relations with them as long as you are staying for worship in the mosques. These are the limits [set by] Allah, so do not approach them. Thus does Allah make clear His ordinances to the people that they may become righteous. (Quran 2 187)

So the All Knowing Allah didn't know about Alaska or Southern Chile where sun doesn't rise or set for months? Either the Muslims there can't start Ramadan fast or end up dying of starvation. The solution is , Muslims had to rectify Allah's mistake and make innovation like follow another/Mecca time zone etc. This just show Allah & the God (if any)who created the earth are not the same.

Frank wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 6:57pm:


Same as Lent, old boy.

Not good for the sale of stool, I know.