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May 12th, 2018 at 5:57pm
 
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
But FD - we need to add value to what we export.

We need to sell steel not iron ore.

We need to sell Uranium fuel rods - not Yellowcake.

We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.


Sir lastnail wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 10:17am:
Yes you need a manufacturing base or value added industries otherwise there is no way we can sustain our standard of living without going into more and more debt.


Why?
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Re: "we need to value add"
Reply #1 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:37pm
 
freediver wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
But FD - we need to add value to what we export.

We need to sell steel not iron ore.

We need to sell Uranium fuel rods - not Yellowcake.

We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.


Sir lastnail wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 10:17am:
Yes you need a manufacturing base or value added industries otherwise there is no way we can sustain our standard of living without going into more and more debt.


Why?


The idea is good, but what of you cannot compete on 'value add'? After all, do you think people have never thought of this before? We do in fact sell steel but it is competitive and not helped by Trumps stupid tariffs. Making clothing has long since gone to the third world and as for making uranium fuel rods... its not a manufacturing issue. The nuclear industry is highly regulated and we cannot simply 'decide' to make fissionable material without international discussion and approval without sanctions. Are you not watching the Iran nuclear issue>?
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Reply #2 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
freediver wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
But FD - we need to add value to what we export.

We need to sell steel not iron ore.

We need to sell Uranium fuel rods - not Yellowcake.

We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.


Sir lastnail wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 10:17am:
Yes you need a manufacturing base or value added industries otherwise there is no way we can sustain our standard of living without going into more and more debt.


Why?


The idea is good, but what of you cannot compete on 'value add'? After all, do you think people have never thought of this before? We do in fact sell steel but it is competitive and not helped by Trumps stupid tariffs. Making clothing has long since gone to the third world and as for making uranium fuel rods... its not a manufacturing issue. The nuclear industry is highly regulated and we cannot simply 'decide' to make fissionable material without international discussion and approval without sanctions. Are you not watching the Iran nuclear issue>?



We could get permission to make fuel rods easily.
The IAEA would allow us - we just need the right permits & inspections.
What we lack is the nuclear technology.
Even Iran is way ahead of us.
We need a nuclear industry here -
we can't just be a country that digs holes in the ground & ships stuff off for others to make money out of.

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Reply #3 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:49pm
 
The stupidity I don't understand is the grubberment going off shore for tenders
(Unless they are being given brown paper bags to do it)

If a project costs 40 million off shore for ships and subs
And the same project costs 60 million in Australia

The stupid politicians and corrupt public serve us go for the 40 million that will never come back to Australia

At least if the turnips chose the Australian quote, they would
1) keep the money in Australia
2) keep the taxes in Australia
3) use Australian workers and materials
4) keep Australians in skilled work.

But because our politicians and public serve us are so corrupt it's just not funny
They get huge donations(bribes) and build up their bank accounts.

I hate Australian politicians and the Australian grubberment
A pox on them all
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Reply #4 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:53pm
 
We cant even break even producing cars, value adding is out of our league
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Reply #5 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:49pm:
The stupidity I don't understand is the grubberment going off shore for tenders
(Unless they are being given brown paper bags to do it)

If a project costs 40 million off shore for ships and subs
And the same project costs 60 million in Australia

The stupid politicians and corrupt public serve us go for the 40 million that will never come back to Australia

At least if the turnips chose the Australian quote, they would
1) keep the money in Australia
2) keep the taxes in Australia
3) use Australian workers and materials
4) keep Australians in skilled work.

But because our politicians and public serve us are so corrupt it's just not funny
They get huge donations(bribes) and build up their bank accounts.

I hate Australian politicians and the Australian grubberment
A pox on them all


That's not true, Matty. You have nothing against politicians, it's just the Boongs, Darkies, Chows, Tree Monkeys, Sand Negros and Muslims you can't stand.
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Reply #6 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm
 
We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.

Why can't we make clothing anymore and sell it overseas?
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Reply #7 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:56pm
 
We need to sell steel not iron ore.

BHP closed down nearly every steel mill.
People are now buying low quality steel from China &
it's even caused bridges to collapse.
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Reply #8 - May 12th, 2018 at 6:58pm
 
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.

Why can't we make clothing anymore and sell it overseas?


Same answer applies right across your simplistic crap, Bobby.

Cost of labour.
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Reply #9 - May 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.

Why can't we make clothing anymore and sell it overseas?


Same answer applies right across your simplistic crap, Bobby.

Cost of labour.



Clothing is made by machines not
1000s of workers there with knitting needles
knitting a jumper.
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Reply #10 - May 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm
 
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Aussie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.

Why can't we make clothing anymore and sell it overseas?


Same answer applies right across your simplistic crap, Bobby.

Cost of labour.



Clothing is made by machines not
1000s of workers there with knitting needles
knitting a jumper.


Really......so a bale of wool arrives at some factory driven there by a vehicle with no driver.....and from that point on.....with no human labour intervention, it turns into clothing.

Wake up, grow up.
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Reply #11 - May 12th, 2018 at 7:07pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Aussie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.

Why can't we make clothing anymore and sell it overseas?


Same answer applies right across your simplistic crap, Bobby.

Cost of labour.



Clothing is made by machines not
1000s of workers there with knitting needles
knitting a jumper.


Really......so a bale of wool arrives at some factory driven there by a vehicle with no driver.....and from that point on.....with no human labour intervention, it turns into clothing.

Wake up, grow up.



We don't even make shoes here anymore.
No wonder we're so much in debt.
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Reply #12 - May 12th, 2018 at 7:25pm
 
freediver wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
But FD - we need to add value to what we export.

We need to sell steel not iron ore.

We need to sell Uranium fuel rods - not Yellowcake.

We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.


Sir lastnail wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 10:17am:
Yes you need a manufacturing base or value added industries otherwise there is no way we can sustain our standard of living without going into more and more debt.


Why?


Who are we looking after shutting down all our industry & offshoring & importing everything?

It certainly isn't everyday Australians.

The cost of labour is just a cop out.
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Reply #13 - May 12th, 2018 at 7:33pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Aussie wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Bobby wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
We need to sell woolen clothing not bales of wool.

Why can't we make clothing anymore and sell it overseas?


Same answer applies right across your simplistic crap, Bobby.

Cost of labour.



Clothing is made by machines not
1000s of workers there with knitting needles
knitting a jumper.


Really......so a bale of wool arrives at some factory driven there by a vehicle with no driver.....and from that point on.....with no human labour intervention, it turns into clothing.

Wake up, grow up.


And who grows & nurtures the sheep, who shears the sheep, classes the wool, puts it in the press,moves the full bale, loads it on the trucks, the unloads at the agents to be reloaded into containers, who loads it on the ships?

The labour component to turn that wool into a saleable garment here is only a small portion of the overall production costs.

The same can be applied to much of our export commodities like iron ore & aluminum oxide.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - May 12th, 2018 at 7:34pm
 
Aussie Aussie Aussie, no?
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