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Reply #75 - May 13th, 2018 at 9:23am
 
Valkie you get the booby prize for that response

Clearly, the Gun Control Laws have been an outstanding success

The Gun Laws had nothing nothing to do with Politics, in fact at the time John Howard was getting a furious backlash from the Gun Lobby

Are you truly putting up an argument that if we didn't have gun control that the homicide rate would go down?

As a retired Police officer I find that laughable. Given the choice about going out into the Community where everyone is armed to the teeth and having the current status quo every cop I have ever known would choose the status quo
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Reply #76 - May 13th, 2018 at 1:35pm
 
red baron wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 9:23am:
Valkie you get the booby prize for that response

Clearly, the Gun Control Laws have been an outstanding success

The Gun Laws had nothing nothing to do with Politics, in fact at the time John Howard was getting a furious backlash from the Gun Lobby

Are you truly putting up an argument that if we didn't have gun control that the homicide rate would go down?

As a retired Police officer I find that laughable. Given the choice about going out into the Community where everyone is armed to the teeth and having the current status quo every cop I have ever known would choose the status quo


Nice use of hysterics, "everyone armed to the teeth".  Grin Grin


Gun deaths were reducing consistently for the previous 10 - 20 years anyway, why would the magically reverse?

Gun control was about people control and the start of wedge politics and nothing else.

Law abiding gun owners

Unionists

Refugees

It did prove the average Australia was a gullible idiot.

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Reply #77 - May 13th, 2018 at 2:21pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
Rhino wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 3:11pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

Because that would be a new level of stupid in this debate.



I couldnt possibly compete with your own mastership.
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Yeah no prizes for second place champ
Whoosh! Lol
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Reply #78 - May 13th, 2018 at 5:56pm
 
red baron wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 9:23am:
Valkie you get the booby prize for that response

Clearly, the Gun Control Laws have been an outstanding success

The Gun Laws had nothing nothing to do with Politics, in fact at the time John Howard was getting a furious backlash from the Gun Lobby

Are you truly putting up an argument that if we didn't have gun control that the homicide rate would go down?

As a retired Police officer I find that laughable. Given the choice about going out into the Community where everyone is armed to the teeth and having the current status quo every cop I have ever known would choose the status quo


So
Let me get this right
Every Australian cop has a gun right?
And by your own argument every one of them is a potential shooter in the making?

Guns are a tool
Like a chainsaw or rabbit trap to a farmer
Legal gun ownership is not a problem in this country
Only salivating , screaming  cowards like howard  fear gun ownership.

Illegal gun ownership is however a problem.
And gun laws are as effective against illegal gun ownership as are ICAC investigations into petrol sorting ( just bovine feaces)

At this point I might add, I personally don't like guns
I don't own one and never will.
a gun is a cowardly weakling tool, one used by anyone who has not the ability to fight like a man.

Our nanny state and country are gradually making everything illegal
guns, knives, nail files etc etc.

That is because the cowards in power know that eventually we people will stand up to them, and when we do, we won't need guns.
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Reply #79 - May 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm
 
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Illegal gun ownership is however a problem.
And gun laws are as effective against illegal gun ownership as are ICAC investigations into petrol sorting ( just bovine feaces)


If it is ineffective, why do so many druggies hold up convenience stores with syringes, machetes, spearguns, knives, cricket bats etc?
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Reply #80 - May 14th, 2018 at 6:16am
 
freediver wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
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Illegal gun ownership is however a problem.
And gun laws are as effective against illegal gun ownership as are ICAC investigations into petrol sorting ( just bovine feaces)


If it is ineffective, why do so many druggies hold up convenience stores with syringes, machetes, spearguns, knives, cricket bats etc?


Because they are druggies
Off their face, the bottom of the barrel low life.
They wouldn't spend the money they would rather inject into their veins on a gun because, even if they did, they wouldn't know how to use it.

How hard do you think it is to get a gun?

ACA tried a few years back, ant it took them less than an hour.

Just ask a cop, you will ave one in less than that
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Reply #81 - May 14th, 2018 at 7:23am
 
freediver wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
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Illegal gun ownership is however a problem.
And gun laws are as effective against illegal gun ownership as are ICAC investigations into petrol sorting ( just bovine feaces)


If it is ineffective, why do so many druggies hold up convenience stores with syringes, machetes, spearguns, knives, cricket bats etc?



When was the last time the said "druggie" had a spare 5k (illegal firearms aren't free) laying around to blow on a gun? They barely have $5 to scrape together for an ice break coffee milk.
A syringe is available from their last hit.
Machetes are sold at bcf therefore can be stolen pretty easy.
Spearguns.....cashies for 20 bucks.
Knives are in the kitchen draw.
Cricket bats are 5 bucks on gumtree or better still flog one from the next door neighbours kid..

It's not the druggies that have the illegal firearms.... their suppliers do though...hence the druggie gets a 12guage shoved in their face if they don't pay their tick bill.
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Reply #82 - May 14th, 2018 at 10:26am
 
freediver wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
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Illegal gun ownership is however a problem.
And gun laws are as effective against illegal gun ownership as are ICAC investigations into petrol sorting ( just bovine feaces)


If it is ineffective, why do so many druggies hold up convenience stores with syringes, machetes, spearguns, knives, cricket bats etc?



Because guns are expensive so they use a syringe because the taxpayer supplies them free of charge.
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Reply #83 - May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am
 
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.
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Reply #84 - May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am
 
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
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Reply #85 - May 14th, 2018 at 12:21pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.

They cant be both. If they are prevalent amongst criminals as the claim is made then they mus be relatively cheap to obtain also. If they are expensive then they must be scarce.
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Reply #86 - May 14th, 2018 at 12:43pm
 
Australia will never be like the USA.

The 'region' of North America is much like in association with the region of the Middle-East.
North America is Politics (Police) and Middle-East is Military (Soldier) ...culturally/empowerment.
Both are 'associated' closely as Health (Europe) and Fitness (Asia) are.
Both are 'associated' closely as Food (Oceania) and Farming (Africa) are.
Both are 'associated' closely as Religion (South America) and Art (Sahul ...aka Australia).


So you see.
Australia (Sahul) will never be like America.
Middle-East is the most Military (WAR) region on the planet ...and historically. Police are similar to Soldiers - for one thing,
they both have 'guns'.


DEATH
in Australia will never be a 'Gun issue'.
Howard was just famous for putting a Band-Aid on a minor scratch here ...while
SUICIDE
was wrecking havoc in Australia.

ICE IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS THAN GUNS HERE.

...it is, of course, the most
'poisonous'
country on the planet.  Wink
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Reply #87 - May 14th, 2018 at 2:28pm
 
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.



I never said they were cheap, no need to lie to further you own weak argument there champ
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Reply #88 - May 14th, 2018 at 6:33pm
 
Black market guns are cheap in places like the US, and expensive in places like Australia where they are heavily regulated.

That's why so many Americans die after some druggie or wannabe gangster moron gets their hands on a gun.

In other words, gun control works.
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Reply #89 - May 14th, 2018 at 9:41pm
 
red baron wrote on May 13th, 2018 at 9:23am:
As a retired Police officer I find that laughable. Given the choice about going out into the Community where everyone is armed to the teeth and having the current status quo every cop I have ever known would choose the status quo


The police did kill one and injure 4 in the Lindt siege.

The police wounded 3 women in Hornsby while shooting one offender- http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/police-shoot-and-kill-knifeman-at-...

I would suggest people run for cover if they see police pulling out their guns they shoot a lot of innocent bystanders.

The police have to approve every firearms license and every firearms purchase from licensed gun owners, the firearms act 1996 says the commissioner of police has to be satisfied the person is no danger to public safety before issuing a firearms license.
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