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Reply #90 - May 14th, 2018 at 9:48pm
 
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If there was any "correlation" then imo it is just pure coincidence.


Do you think it is just a coincidence when you read about Aussie drug addicts holding up a convenience store with a knife or machete and getting chased off, then read about an American drug addict killing someone or getting killed while holding up a convenience store with a gun?


If drug addicts are holding people up for a fix it sounds like a good argument to follow Portugal and legalise and tax the sale of drugs.

An excellent article on ending drug war to cut gun crime, we have a frightening amount of drug dealers caught with guns in Australia.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/end-drug-war-cut-gun-violence
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Reply #91 - May 14th, 2018 at 11:43pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
ah, so your argument is that illegal guns are expensive and also easy to obtain, is that correct? Or would you like the opportunity to rethink your position?
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Reply #92 - May 14th, 2018 at 11:49pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
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If there was any "correlation" then imo it is just pure coincidence.


Do you think it is just a coincidence when you read about Aussie drug addicts holding up a convenience store with a knife or machete and getting chased off, then read about an American drug addict killing someone or getting killed while holding up a convenience store with a gun?


If drug addicts are holding people up for a fix it sounds like a good argument to follow Portugal and legalise and tax the sale of drugs.

An excellent article on ending drug war to cut gun crime, we have a frightening amount of drug dealers caught with guns in Australia.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/end-drug-war-cut-gun-violence
weve had that discussion. Some, posters here think that would result in large scale drug addiction with people becoming addicts after one hit of marijuana, turning psycho and Australia becoming some sort of large scale Mad Max style battleground. Plus "FACT" smoking dope makes you grow tits, we all know that.
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Reply #93 - May 15th, 2018 at 12:50am
 
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 12th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
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If there was any "correlation" then imo it is just pure coincidence.


Do you think it is just a coincidence when you read about Aussie drug addicts holding up a convenience store with a knife or machete and getting chased off, then read about an American drug addict killing someone or getting killed while holding up a convenience store with a gun?


If drug addicts are holding people up for a fix it sounds like a good argument to follow Portugal and legalise and tax the sale of drugs.

An excellent article on ending drug war to cut gun crime, we have a frightening amount of drug dealers caught with guns in Australia.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/end-drug-war-cut-gun-violence
weve had that discussion. Some, posters here think that would result in large scale drug addiction with people becoming addicts after one hit of marijuana, turning psycho and Australia becoming some sort of large scale Mad Max style battleground. Plus "FACT" smoking dope makes you grow tits, we all know that.


Sounds about right.. matches well with our current governance by psycho of this nation.... nothing different, just a little enhancement in the current insanity that runs the show.   Cool
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Reply #94 - May 15th, 2018 at 8:21am
 
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
ah, so your argument is that illegal guns are expensive and also easy to obtain, is that correct? Or would you like the opportunity to rethink your position?




No....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman. Can you understand that?
Nothing saying it is cheap. Nothing saying it is hard to find. Just that, like everything, if you have the money then getting in contact with someone will be a lot easier than If you have no money and are just "asking around".
In doing this though you have just invited dogs to lay in your bed....so expect the fleas that will follow.

This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.
Their dealers and the dealers suppliers, sure, they would have some contacts. They "normally" dont use the substances they sell and are more "buisiness" minded.....but a usless druged out junkie/user.....no way.
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Reply #95 - May 15th, 2018 at 6:29pm
 
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o....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman.


How many drug addicts "have the money" Caveman?

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This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.


In Australia they do. In America they buy a cheap hundgun (thanks NRA), or 'borrow' one, hold up a store, and if they are having a bad night they kill some innocent person or get shot themselves.
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Reply #96 - May 15th, 2018 at 6:46pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
ah, so your argument is that illegal guns are expensive and also easy to obtain, is that correct? Or would you like the opportunity to rethink your position?




No....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman. Can you understand that?
Nothing saying it is cheap. Nothing saying it is hard to find. Just that, like everything, if you have the money then getting in contact with someone will be a lot easier than If you have no money and are just "asking around".
In doing this though you have just invited dogs to lay in your bed....so expect the fleas that will follow.

This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.

as with anything if something is in ready supply it is cheap, illegal guns are not plentiful as you suggest but quite difficult to obtain. There are no illegal gun dealers with inexhaustible caches of semi autos just sitting waiting for the right buyer with wads of cash. Just as drug dealers move their product quickly as possible at prevailing market price to obtain profit. I swear, most of you are completely brainwashed by television.
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Their dealers and the dealers suppliers, sure, they would have some contacts. They "normally" dont use the substances they sell and are more "buisiness" minded.....
You are also wrong about this, most drug dealers are users who deal to make money for their habit.
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Reply #97 - May 16th, 2018 at 12:09am
 
freediver wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
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o....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman.


How many drug addicts "have the money" Caveman?

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This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.


In Australia they do. In America they buy a cheap hundgun (thanks NRA), or 'borrow' one, hold up a store, and if they are having a bad night they kill some innocent person or get shot themselves.


this is simple freemasonic narrative ..

the NRA has nothing to do with criminals using the black market to obtain illegal weapons .... if the people are armed then they can protect themselves and children from criminals





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Reply #98 - May 16th, 2018 at 5:51am
 
Let me get this right

On the one hand, we are to believe that gun laws, designed to prevent as many people as possible from not owning a gun, are a good thing because we CANNOT trust people to do the right and sensible thing because they are typically incapable.

But on the other hand, we are to believe that drug laws, designed to prevent people from accessing dangerous mind altering drugs, are a bad thing because we CAN trust people to do the sensible thing and self regulate the use of mind altering drugs because they are capable.

There appears to be somewhat of a contradiction here.

We can either trust people or not
And putting mind altering drugs into the mix certainly  complicates things, does it not?
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Reply #99 - May 16th, 2018 at 6:04am
 
Rhino wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
ah, so your argument is that illegal guns are expensive and also easy to obtain, is that correct? Or would you like the opportunity to rethink your position?




No....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman. Can you understand that?
Nothing saying it is cheap. Nothing saying it is hard to find. Just that, like everything, if you have the money then getting in contact with someone will be a lot easier than If you have no money and are just "asking around".
In doing this though you have just invited dogs to lay in your bed....so expect the fleas that will follow.

This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.

as with anything if something is in ready supply it is cheap, illegal guns are not plentiful as you suggest but quite difficult to obtain. There are no illegal gun dealers with inexhaustible caches of semi autos just sitting waiting for the right buyer with wads of cash. Just as drug dealers move their product quickly as possible at prevailing market price to obtain profit. I swear, most of you are completely brainwashed by television.
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Their dealers and the dealers suppliers, sure, they would have some contacts. They "normally" dont use the substances they sell and are more "buisiness" minded.....
You are also wrong about this, most drug dealers are users who deal to make money for their habit.



You make whatever conclusion you like.


On the last note......
I'm not talking about the twat that buys an 8 ball and moves 3/4 of it to fund his habits. Stop playing dumb. If you've ever met a big time dealer you would understand. They don't use the shite. It is purely buisiness.


And I don't watch TV. Some netflix but not MSM.
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Reply #100 - May 17th, 2018 at 12:08am
 
Captain Caveman wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 6:04am:
Rhino wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
ah, so your argument is that illegal guns are expensive and also easy to obtain, is that correct? Or would you like the opportunity to rethink your position?




No....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman. Can you understand that?
Nothing saying it is cheap. Nothing saying it is hard to find. Just that, like everything, if you have the money then getting in contact with someone will be a lot easier than If you have no money and are just "asking around".
In doing this though you have just invited dogs to lay in your bed....so expect the fleas that will follow.

This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.

as with anything if something is in ready supply it is cheap, illegal guns are not plentiful as you suggest but quite difficult to obtain. There are no illegal gun dealers with inexhaustible caches of semi autos just sitting waiting for the right buyer with wads of cash. Just as drug dealers move their product quickly as possible at prevailing market price to obtain profit. I swear, most of you are completely brainwashed by television.
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Their dealers and the dealers suppliers, sure, they would have some contacts. They "normally" dont use the substances they sell and are more "buisiness" minded.....
You are also wrong about this, most drug dealers are users who deal to make money for their habit.



You make whatever conclusion you like.


On the last note......
I'm not talking about the twat that buys an 8 ball and moves 3/4 of it to fund his habits. Stop playing dumb. If you've ever met a big time dealer you would understand. They don't use the shite. It is purely buisiness.


And I don't watch TV. Some netflix but not MSM.
Im, not making conclusions, Im stating facts. Most dealers deal to fund their habits. Met lots of "big time" dealers, they all use. What about you?
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Reply #101 - May 17th, 2018 at 6:11am
 
Rhino wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:08am:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 6:04am:
Rhino wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 8:21am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:43pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Rhino wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 11:45am:
So, guns are cheap and easy to get hold of and expensive and hard to get at the same time. Gotcha.


I don't think anyone said they were hard to get, nor cheap.
More like....if you've got the money, it wouldn't be hard to find a gun for dale.
ah, so your argument is that illegal guns are expensive and also easy to obtain, is that correct? Or would you like the opportunity to rethink your position?




No....if you have the money then it wouldn't be that hard to find a willing salesman. Can you understand that?
Nothing saying it is cheap. Nothing saying it is hard to find. Just that, like everything, if you have the money then getting in contact with someone will be a lot easier than If you have no money and are just "asking around".
In doing this though you have just invited dogs to lay in your bed....so expect the fleas that will follow.

This mentality of "drugos/junkies are armed" is something made up. That's why they hold up shops with syringes etc.

as with anything if something is in ready supply it is cheap, illegal guns are not plentiful as you suggest but quite difficult to obtain. There are no illegal gun dealers with inexhaustible caches of semi autos just sitting waiting for the right buyer with wads of cash. Just as drug dealers move their product quickly as possible at prevailing market price to obtain profit. I swear, most of you are completely brainwashed by television.
Quote:
Their dealers and the dealers suppliers, sure, they would have some contacts. They "normally" dont use the substances they sell and are more "buisiness" minded.....
You are also wrong about this, most drug dealers are users who deal to make money for their habit.



You make whatever conclusion you like.


On the last note......
I'm not talking about the twat that buys an 8 ball and moves 3/4 of it to fund his habits. Stop playing dumb. If you've ever met a big time dealer you would understand. They don't use the shite. It is purely buisiness.


And I don't watch TV. Some netflix but not MSM.
Im, not making conclusions, Im stating facts. Most dealers deal to fund their habits. Met lots of "big time" dealers, they all use. What about you?



The ones I've known wouldn't touch the crap. It's buisiness.
"Don't get high on your own supply". Ever heard that before?

Maybe that's why you meet these "user" folk. You work in some kind of recovery unit for addicts or something don't you? Maybe these folk are the stupid ones i mention. Flashing their money. Driving a merc. Living in a flash house....all the while claiming a disability pention or something similar. Using their merchandise a little. Not really covering any tracks. Care factor of some kind of untouchable drug lord but in reality just a scared weak nobody who is trying hard.

What about the ones that you don't meet?
The smart ones. The ones you wouldn't even consider....and the people they sell to would probably blow your mind. People in, pardon the pun, really high places. I'm sure they have help from those people in high places too. Seen it first hand champ so you can draw your conclusion on dealers using....but what you are dealing with is the small time addict dealer.....not the buisinessmen.

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