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Reply #45 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Opening those links. . .

Ah, is it. Weird it ripens fairly early.

Good thing about late bloomers—won’t get hit by spring frosts.
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Reply #46 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 8:02pm
 
You are right! Cox is a late bloomer. Excellent, reckon no worries now about pollinating Brown Snout, Dabinette and Improved Foxwhelp cider apples. Granny Smith is mid-late. Reckon I have it covered!

I am probably worrying needlessly, just I want everything right—and the soil is bloody hopeless! So everything else has to be right!

I reckon I can get a cellar so can store apples over winter/spring.
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Reply #47 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:56pm
 
Because I have had to change a few things I will have some space in front of the cider apple trees (3 cherry trees in each of rows 4 & 5) so am going to plant two crab apples there.

John Downie—late bloomer, great for apple jelly

Huon or Ranelagh Crab.

Or one crab apple and a couple peach trees etc.

Acid crab apples, great for apple jelly. Or treat like sloes, make a crab apple gin sweetened just enough to balance the acidity but let the crab apple flavor shine through!

Have a slight problem with the cherry trees. Woodbridge reckon they are on Colt rootstock but say the tree grows to 3m which is much more like Giselle5 rootstock (grows 10' or 3+m.) going to grow as big fans, maybe as pyramids? Any suggestion, Mike?
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Reply #48 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:07pm
 


Cherries tend to just grow upright,, yet still crop.

Are you worried they will be too tall?

You can slow the tree down by tying down some branches, encourage more fruit and slow them down a bit, trouble with cherries they have a lot of growing season after cropping.

One philosophy is to let the birds have all the high ones, you may be permitted to eat one or two fruit from down low.

Were you going to net the trees?

If birds are a problem you could try D-ter, its ammonium aluminium sulphate and is reputed to keep birds away.

I have a kilo of it but never tried it.

Not sure if I have answered.
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Reply #49 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 3:21pm
 
Well, are differences besides height between Colt and Giselle.

Will research the best way to train them. Yeah, netting is a consideration, 6 trees at $30 each plus compost, mulch etc etc are kinda expensive to let the bloody birds eat them all!
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Reply #50 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:56pm
 


I have seen cherries on Tatura Trellis, a lot of expense for a low yielding crop, but netting would be easy.
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Reply #51 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:27pm
 
Yes, I came across that trellis.
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Reply #52 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:44pm
 
https://www.chrisbowers.co.uk/guides/cherry-trees.php

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Colt Rootstock
Colt has been fully tested in this country and has been proved ideal for a wide range of soil types previously too difficult for cherries. Fully establish 8 year old trees have been controlled to 12ft height, and this can be lower with pruning technique. The weight of the fruit and protection netting brings the branches down even lower, and allows picking from the ground. No ladders are needed. Trees on Colt rootstock fruit very early in life, often the first year after planting, and are in full fruit by the 3rd year. In our trials, cherries on Colt have proved far less susceptible to bacterial canker.


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On Colt rootstock these can now be grown as a traditional fan against a 6 or 8' wall, or in the open as a pyramid, where the height can be restricted to about 9' with easy pruning. Both of these ways of pruning are very easy to net against birds. For fans and bush, the trees should be planted 15' apart and, for pyramid training in the open garden 12' apart.


Sounds good, bending the branches, no need for a ladder to pick, easy to net with height controlled easy enough. Colt also tolerates clay OK.

Another source says 2.5m (8') spacing apart.
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Reply #53 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 4:40pm
 
Fan on Colt rootstock.

One GOOD thing about colt rootstock: it tolerates clay soil.
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