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Reply #30 - May 2nd, 2018 at 5:47pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:43pm:
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:39pm:
Why do you disagree with it?


Because inbreeding may be more common among certain cultures and in certain countries. For example, I would have no doubt that inbreeding is more common within certain cultures like Italian and Greek than say English.


How does that make what I said wrong?
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Reply #31 - May 2nd, 2018 at 5:49pm
 
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:47pm:
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:43pm:
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:39pm:
Why do you disagree with it?


Because inbreeding may be more common among certain cultures and in certain countries. For example, I would have no doubt that inbreeding is more common within certain cultures like Italian and Greek than say English.


How does that make what I said wrong?


It doesn't, which is why I said that I disagreed with Aussie's statement.

Isn't that what I said??
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Reply #32 - May 2nd, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
My bad, I thought you were disagreeing with me.

The inbreeding map has Greece and Italy on it. Italy does show a slightly higher rate of incest than much of Europe. Not sure how you picked that.

Though the rate of inbreeding could be less than the Muslim population of Italy.
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Reply #33 - May 2nd, 2018 at 5:52pm
 
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:51pm:
My bad, I thought you were disagreeing with me.

The inbreeding map has Greece and Italy on it. Italy does show a slightly higher rate of incest than much of Europe. Not sure how you picked that.


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Reply #34 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:01pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:52pm:
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:51pm:
My bad, I thought you were disagreeing with me.

The inbreeding map has Greece and Italy on it. Italy does show a slightly higher rate of incest than much of Europe. Not sure how you picked that.


I have hawk eyes.


You pair have me thoroughly confused.

This was Effendi's statement:

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A lot of them are retarded due to inbreeding.


Are you agreeing with that, Caesar?
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Reply #35 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:06pm
 
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Reply #36 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:14pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:01pm:
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:52pm:
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:51pm:
My bad, I thought you were disagreeing with me.

The inbreeding map has Greece and Italy on it. Italy does show a slightly higher rate of incest than much of Europe. Not sure how you picked that.


I have hawk eyes.


You pair have me thoroughly confused.

This was Effendi's statement:

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A lot of them are retarded due to inbreeding.


Are you agreeing with that, Caesar?


My view is the following:

Inbreeding may be more prevalent in certain cultures. Inbreeding can cause a diminished mental capacity but only in a minority of cases.

FD said that the reason why Arabs are poor is because most of them are inbred. I disagree with this statement and the link between these two.

Aussie, I thought you disputing the facts FD presented to you, the facts which I interpreted as 'inbreeding is more prevalent among some cultures than others'.
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Reply #37 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:15pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:06pm:


But, can you link those two to poverty?

Most Australians are dumb but earn a decent living. How do you explain that?
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Reply #38 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:15pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:06pm:


But, can you link those two to poverty?

Most Australians are dumb but earn a decent living. How do you explain that?


Do you think we would be richer or poorer if we practiced inbreeding to the extent that Muslims do?
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Reply #39 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:23pm
 
FD's (and Grap's) conclusion is the following:

1) there is a higher prevalence of inbreeding among Arabs

2) said inbreeding leads to retardation;

3) retardation leads to a life of poverty;

Ergo, the plight of Arabs around the world is due to their 'retardation', and therefore we shouldn't feel sympathy for them.

My conclusion is the following:

1) there may be a higher prevalence of inbreeding of Arabs;

2) said inbreeding may lead to a diminished mental capacity;

3) said diminished mental capacity does not necessarily lead to poverty;

Ergo, the plight of Arabs around the is due to a variety of factors such as social/economic and political, and therefore we should treat them humanely and should feel sympathy for them.

In fact, I'll go one further.

The lack of education among Arab women, and the conditions of poverty LEAD to an increase occurrence of cousin/interbreeding marriages.
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Reply #40 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:24pm
 
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:15pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:06pm:


But, can you link those two to poverty?

Most Australians are dumb but earn a decent living. How do you explain that?


Do you think we would be richer or poorer if we practiced inbreeding to the extent that Muslims do?


It wouldn't matter because in 'Stralia, you get $100k for driving for a truck, whereas a person with a sociology degree gets nothing. You don't have to be smart to drive a truck.
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Reply #41 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:26pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:24pm:
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:15pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:06pm:


But, can you link those two to poverty?

Most Australians are dumb but earn a decent living. How do you explain that?


Do you think we would be richer or poorer if we practiced inbreeding to the extent that Muslims do?


It wouldn't matter because in 'Stralia, you get $100k for driving for a truck, whereas a person with a sociology degree gets nothing. You don't have to be smart to drive a truck.


What if you can't drive the truck because you are caring for your retarded brother?
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Reply #42 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:29pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:15pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:06pm:


But, can you link those two to poverty?

Most Australians are dumb but earn a decent living. How do you explain that?


Poverty wasn't the question - but there are studies that show the relationship  of poverty to inbreeding.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289612000086
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Reply #43 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:14pm:
Aussie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:01pm:
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:52pm:
freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 5:51pm:
My bad, I thought you were disagreeing with me.

The inbreeding map has Greece and Italy on it. Italy does show a slightly higher rate of incest than much of Europe. Not sure how you picked that.


I have hawk eyes.


You pair have me thoroughly confused.

This was Effendi's statement:

Quote:
A lot of them are retarded due to inbreeding.


Are you agreeing with that, Caesar?


My view is the following:

Inbreeding may be more prevalent in certain cultures. Inbreeding can cause a diminished mental capacity but only in a minority of cases.

FD said that the reason why Arabs are poor is because most of them are inbred. I disagree with this statement and the link between these two.

Aussie, I thought you disputing the facts FD presented to you, the facts which I interpreted as 'inbreeding is more prevalent among some cultures than others'.


I have not disputed anything.  I have asked Effendi for proof of his assertion.
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Reply #44 - May 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm
 
Auggie wrote on May 2nd, 2018 at 6:23pm:
FD's (and Grap's) conclusion is the following:

1) there is a higher prevalence of inbreeding among Arabs

2) said inbreeding leads to retardation;

3) retardation leads to a life of poverty;

Ergo, the plight of Arabs around the world is due to their 'retardation', and therefore we shouldn't feel sympathy for them.

My conclusion is the following:

1) there may be a higher prevalence of inbreeding of Arabs;

2) said inbreeding may lead to a diminished mental capacity;

3) said diminished mental capacity does not necessarily lead to poverty;

Ergo, the plight of Arabs around the is due to a variety of factors such as social/economic and political, and therefore we should treat them humanely and should feel sympathy for them.

In fact, I'll go one further.

The lack of education among Arab women, and the conditions of poverty LEAD to an increase occurrence of cousin/interbreeding marriages.


I drew no conclusion, but merely stated that it seemed there was a correlation between inbreeding and low IQ.
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