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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #45 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:45pm
 
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
Karnal doesn't like us laying into the fat white bint for trash talking Anzac day because it pokes holes in her theory that the only reason we lay into the other bint is because she's tinted.


Are you experiencing cognitive dissonance because Karnal is tearing your arguments to shreds??


What are you on about? 

What arguments have I laid out for YaM?


The argument about the so-called White Bint...

And do you know what Cognitive Dissonance is?


Who actually cares when real people are dying.. and stupid bints make stupid comments from their sheltered lives?


I'm referring to the broader issues of bigotry that people on this forum are propagating. Immigrant and Muslim bashing.


You ever see me bashing immigrants and Muslims - other than the criminal elements therein?

If a unit can become combat ineffective with 10% casualties - why is it not meet that 10% of criminals from one imported demographic is enough to render them unsuitable?  Roll Eyes
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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #46 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:50pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:45pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
Karnal doesn't like us laying into the fat white bint for trash talking Anzac day because it pokes holes in her theory that the only reason we lay into the other bint is because she's tinted.


Are you experiencing cognitive dissonance because Karnal is tearing your arguments to shreds??


What are you on about? 

What arguments have I laid out for YaM?


The argument about the so-called White Bint...

And do you know what Cognitive Dissonance is?


Who actually cares when real people are dying.. and stupid bints make stupid comments from their sheltered lives?


I'm referring to the broader issues of bigotry that people on this forum are propagating. Immigrant and Muslim bashing.


You ever see me bashing immigrants and Muslims - other than the criminal elements therein?

If a unit can become combat ineffective with 10% casualties - why is it not meet that 10% of criminals from one imported demographic is enough to render them unsuitable?  Roll Eyes


I believe you would support policies which attempt to limit the number of persons from a Muslim background to Australia, with policies specifically targeting that group.

Am I wrong?
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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #47 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:55pm
 
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:45pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
Karnal doesn't like us laying into the fat white bint for trash talking Anzac day because it pokes holes in her theory that the only reason we lay into the other bint is because she's tinted.


Are you experiencing cognitive dissonance because Karnal is tearing your arguments to shreds??


What are you on about? 

What arguments have I laid out for YaM?


The argument about the so-called White Bint...

And do you know what Cognitive Dissonance is?


Who actually cares when real people are dying.. and stupid bints make stupid comments from their sheltered lives?


I'm referring to the broader issues of bigotry that people on this forum are propagating. Immigrant and Muslim bashing.


You ever see me bashing immigrants and Muslims - other than the criminal elements therein?

If a unit can become combat ineffective with 10% casualties - why is it not meet that 10% of criminals from one imported demographic is enough to render them unsuitable?  Roll Eyes


I believe you would support policies which attempt to limit the number of persons from a Muslim background to Australia, with policies specifically targeting that group.

Am I wrong?


Wrong as usual - I would restrict immigration from ANY areas with a proven proclivity for violence against the host nation... and as an interim measure, that only those from a proven culture that will be part of this nation get first call....

Not hard really.. you need to stop desperately trying to find extremes where there are none - and using that as the launch pad for screeching 'discrimination'.....

Try to LISTEN with your mind what people are saying - not with your funny binoculars slanted towards any view that is not currently 'acceptable' to the screeching minorities.......

Answer this:- 

How long do YOU believe introducing numbers of people who are anathema to THIS nation can go on before it affects YOU and YOUR children and grand-children?

How many people do YOU imagine this nation can absorb without stretching itself beyond what  it can handle?

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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #48 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:27pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
Wrong as usual - I would restrict immigration from ANY areas with a proven proclivity for violence against the host nation... and as an interim measure, that only those from a proven culture that will be part of this nation get first call....


Ok, so being the fact that at this point in time time the ideology with a proven proclivity for violence against Australia is Islamism, and given that Islam is the connecting tissue to Islamism, you would specifically target and restrict immigration for persons of the Islamic faith to the exclusion of other ideologies, and prioritise, for example, Christians or Jews within those 'areas' as you state.

Now, do you think that such targeting would inflame Muslims who are already in Australia (living among us) and also become a propaganda piece for extremist clerics overseas who would focus greater attention on Australia for infiltration and terrorism???

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
Not hard really.. you need to stop desperately trying to find extremes where there are none - and using that as the launch pad for screeching 'discrimination'.....


It is discrimination to have a parallel immigration policy for persons of a particular culture, faith or race because of potential violence in the future within said culture, faith or race; which is what you are proposing.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
Try to LISTEN with your mind what people are saying - not with your funny binoculars slanted towards any view that is not currently 'acceptable' to the screeching minorities.......


The people who are talking about these issues are those primarily in Sydney. So, why aren't advocating red-lining Sydney and preventing all permanent immigration to Greater Sydney, and force immigrants to other less populated parts of the country???

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
How long do YOU believe introducing numbers of people who are anathema to THIS nation can go on before it affects YOU and YOUR children and grand-children?


The same argument can be made for any policy or social phenomenon which has negative impacts on society. Should we then ban pornography because it has contributed to a culture of transient sex? Should we ban smartphones because children are losing basic literacy skills? We can draw correlations from just about any social phenonema and attribute negative results for them. It doesn't necessarily mean that these negative results will occur.
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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #49 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm
 
Islamists - YES.  Muslims - NO.

How hard is that?

If you were offered a container of salad from a supermarket that had a 10% chance of being infected with a deadly illness........ would you buy it?   Roll Eyes

The problem with this discussion is that people strive to take one example as being representative of the whole (when it is one way of viewing it = 'discrimination) - and then say that a proven 10% or so to the contrary is therefore irrelevant.

You must deal with facts, Grasshopper.... not feelings.

Would you invite someone to live in your home with a 10% chance that he/she might kill you or your family?
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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #50 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:50pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Islamists - YES.  Muslims - NO.


How do you determine from an immigration policy perspective who is an Islamist and who is a Muslim??

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Would you invite someone to live in your home with a 10% chance that he/she might kill you or your family?


That argument could be made when I move house to another neighbourhood. Is there a 10% chance that someone already living here could kill me?
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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #51 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 12:23am
 
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Islamists - YES.  Muslims - NO.


How do you determine from an immigration policy perspective who is an Islamist and who is a Muslim??

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Would you invite someone to live in your home with a 10% chance that he/she might kill you or your family?


That argument could be made when I move house to another neighbourhood. Is there a 10% chance that someone already living here could kill me?


a) How serious are they about expansionist Islam?  A few simple questions and observation should tell you that.

b)  Would you buy such a home if you KNEW there was a 1:10 chance a neighbour would kill you or your family?

I know you strive mightily to discuss reason and decency - those go straight out the window when you or yours are under threat.

If I moved to a Muslim country - what Muslim would have any reason to fear me?
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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #52 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 10:03am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 12:23am:
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Islamists - YES.  Muslims - NO.


How do you determine from an immigration policy perspective who is an Islamist and who is a Muslim??

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Would you invite someone to live in your home with a 10% chance that he/she might kill you or your family?


That argument could be made when I move house to another neighbourhood. Is there a 10% chance that someone already living here could kill me?


a) How serious are they about expansionist Islam?  A few simple questions and observation should tell you that.

b)  Would you buy such a home if you KNEW there was a 1:10 chance a neighbour would kill you or your family?

I know you strive mightily to discuss reason and decency - those go straight out the window when you or yours are under threat.

If I moved to a Muslim country - what Muslim would have any reason to fear me?


Ok. So a test with written questions? What if they lie?

Ah. But the question is: would you ever move to a Muslim majority country??
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Reply #53 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 10:16am
 
Auggie wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Islamists - YES.  Muslims - NO.


How do you determine from an immigration policy perspective who is an Islamist and who is a Muslim??

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Would you invite someone to live in your home with a 10% chance that he/she might kill you or your family?


That argument could be made when I move house to another neighbourhood. Is there a 10% chance that someone already living here could kill me?


The CULT regardless of it's label ( islamists or muzzo) are all tarred with the same brush.
They see their CULT above the law, the only law.
The only time they abide by our law is if they see an advantage, but as soon as they can they revert to the CULT.

They do not mix, they hate non CULT people.
And don't give me the "not all muzzos are radicals" argument.
Look at the so called "moderate" muzzos when they feel a need to make their presence felt, if they think someone might be catching on and they want to play the race card.
They carry placards, their children carry placards calling for murder and threatening us.

At the moment there are not enough of them to cause real problems, because they are consumate cowards, but as their numbers rise, so does their problematic nature.

We need to learn from France, Germany, Sweden all of who have suffered at the hands of this evil death CULT.

All muzzos are trouble
Perhaps not openly yet
But it will come and when it does it is trouble aplenty.

We need to ban from our shores this death CULT
I have no issue with any other immigrant, but this death CULT should be stopped before it turns us into another FRANCE.
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Reply #54 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 2:22pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 10:55pm:
Wrong as usual - I would restrict immigration from ANY areas with a proven proclivity for violence against the host nation... and as an interim measure, that only those from a proven culture that will be part of this nation get first call....

Not hard really.. you need to stop desperately trying to find extremes where there are none - and using that as the launch pad for screeching 'discrimination'.....

Try to LISTEN with your mind what people are saying - not with your funny binoculars slanted towards any view that is not currently 'acceptable' to the screeching minorities.......

Answer this:- 

How long do YOU believe introducing numbers of people who are anathema to THIS nation can go on before it affects YOU and YOUR children and grand-children?

How many people do YOU imagine this nation can absorb without stretching itself beyond what  it can handle?



Very well said.


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I would restrict immigration from ANY areas with a proven proclivity for violence against the host nation......


No Yanks, then.  Good idea!  We don't need those troublemakers here!

And all the descendants those at the Eureka Stockade can piss off as well.
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ANZAC Day is now the soapbox that the malcontented self loathing virtue signallers will set their sights on.

The left of politics (well the ABC) will be banging on about Aboriginal people that served the country in the armed forces.

Not the sort of thing that brings a country together, rather it divides it. Thats what these self loathing lefties do.
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Reply #57 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 3:44pm
 
miketrees wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
ANZAC Day is now the soapbox that the malcontented self loathing virtue signallers will set their sights on.

The left of politics (well the ABC) will be banging on about Aboriginal people that served the country in the armed forces.

Not the sort of thing that brings a country together, rather it divides it. Thats what these self loathing lefties do.


How does acknowledging aboriginal participation in the War divide Australia?
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Reply #58 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 4:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
miketrees wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
ANZAC Day is now the soapbox that the malcontented self loathing virtue signallers will set their sights on.

The left of politics (well the ABC) will be banging on about Aboriginal people that served the country in the armed forces.

Not the sort of thing that brings a country together, rather it divides it. Thats what these self loathing lefties do.


How does acknowledging aboriginal participation in the War divide Australia?


Just more of the same old - huge coverage of women etc in the forces... remember the anniversary of the RAN?  Every interview by the ABC was a woman - no woman has died in combat aboard an RAN ship - hundreds of men have -  one woman has died in a fire, tragically.... but the men, as usual, get second billing as part of the furniture.

Now that, moppets, is called propaganda...


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Re: Well, it's not just the Muslim girl, is it?
Reply #59 - Apr 25th, 2018 at 4:50pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
miketrees wrote on Apr 25th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
ANZAC Day is now the soapbox that the malcontented self loathing virtue signallers will set their sights on.

The left of politics (well the ABC) will be banging on about Aboriginal people that served the country in the armed forces.

Not the sort of thing that brings a country together, rather it divides it. Thats what these self loathing lefties do.


How does acknowledging aboriginal participation in the War divide Australia?


Just more of the same old - huge coverage of women etc in the forces... remember the anniversary of the RAN?  Every interview by the ABC was a woman - no woman has died in combat aboard an RAN ship - hundreds of men have -  one woman has died in a fire, tragically.... but the men, as usual, get second billing as part of the furniture.

Now that, moppets, is called propaganda...




ABC doubled down and mentioned the huge contribution made by Aboriginal women   Shocked
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