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Reply #30 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:35pm
 


I want to know exactly where the extra 22b a year we give the Abos goes to, and why we are getting an increasingly negative outcome.

Actually I started this thread as a joke, but right there is a question worthy of a RC
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Reply #31 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 11:39pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:10pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 7:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 2:20pm:
We have seen numerous Government reports such as the Little Children are Sacred one which was the report of a Board of Inquiry into the Protection of Aboriginal Children from Sexual Abuse. Commissioned by the government of the Northern Territory,  That was handed down in 2008 and it created the cause for the Intervention by the Federal Government.

That report's 66 findings were not addressed at all by the Intervention, which was primarily poll driven in an election which saw the return of the Howard Government to power.

We have had numerous reports and commissions over the decades.  All of them have come to naught.  What makes you, Mike think that your Royal Commission would have any different results?   What exactly would it be investigating.  What would it's terms of reference be?

Indigenous Australians are another political football in Australia.  They are kicked around between the political parties and largely ignored for 90% of the year in the hope they'll go away.  Tsk, tsk, people here are exactly the same.  We have moral outrage, insults, argument and then what?  Nothing.  Absolutely nothing.   The football gets kicked around a bit more when the ratings in the polls are low or there is found to be another problem that needs to be fixed.   How bloody typical.  Lets have another Royal Commission.  Lets waste more millions to find out what we already know.   Indigenous Australians are the second-most disadvantaged group in our society, after the Kanaks.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's about the biggest load of BS you've ever sprouted.

The most discriminated against demographic in our society is white males between the ages of 18 & 55.



According to whom, Gnads?  Which White Supremacist group produced that piece of bullshit.  The ABS has reported that the Kanaks are the most disadvantaged group in Australian society for over three decades.   Roll Eyes


Is that because of the mechanisation of cane harvesting?


No.  It is because white people have discriminated actively against them, Setanta.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #32 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:30am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 11:39pm:
No.  It is because white people have discriminated actively against them, Setanta.   Roll Eyes


Please explain?

We want a Black Royal commission that will only listen to Blacks, only support their side of the story, only rationalise why Blacks should be handed stuff nobody else can get, will ignore the very real and pressing issues of 'black culture', and will simply (gasps) Whitewash the whole area of Indigenous problems... hell - why not just make it a Black Commissioner, and all Black staff, and then present it to the Australian people as a fair and impartial commission?

Been done before - look at that ridiculous Trade Union commission - a laughing stock - look at all the other commissions - equal laughing stocks.

Meanwhile nothing will change for the Indigenous women beaten, or the Indigenous kids who are neglected and abused, or the ones who grow up thinking they have an Entitlement to steal from Whitey etc, and then go into shock when they hit eighteen and end up in the slammer time after time, while all the young Indigenous girls start dropping kids at fifteen from serial fathers, or the conditions in which many live in poverty and despair and ill health remain the same or worse.

Let's just dress it all up pretty and throw a coat of Black paint over it and all will be well, and sell it to the people as a 'fair' result from a duly-appointed 'commission', all money wasted instead of actually addressing the issues.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #33 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 7:30pm:
miketrees wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 7:23pm:
The most discriminated against demographic in our society is white males between the ages of 18 & 55.

Nah, I call bullshit on that.

It starts way younger than 18 and lasts way longer than 55


And yet these are the same young men who will be called upon to shoulder the burden of The Next War... for a nation that perpetually puts them down.


Discrimination of white Anglo Saxon hetrosexual tax paying men

Women are always attacking us demanding extra_ equal( not so equal) rights
Abbos attack us blaming the sins of past people's on us
Muzzos attack us because we represent what they will never have.
Pooftahs attack us because we are normal and they are not.
The grubberment attack us because the other groups don't work and it needs more money
I can go on and on

Oh to only have one group attacking me
That would be heaven.
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Reply #34 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 1:29pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 7:30pm:
miketrees wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 7:23pm:
The most discriminated against demographic in our society is white males between the ages of 18 & 55.

Nah, I call bullshit on that.

It starts way younger than 18 and lasts way longer than 55


And yet these are the same young men who will be called upon to shoulder the burden of The Next War... for a nation that perpetually puts them down.


Discrimination of white Anglo Saxon hetrosexual tax paying men

Women are always attacking us demanding extra_ equal( not so equal) rights
Abbos attack us blaming the sins of past people's on us
Muzzos attack us because we represent what they will never have.
Pooftahs attack us because we are normal and they are not.
The grubberment attack us because the other groups don't work and it needs more money
I can go on and on

Oh to only have one group attacking me
That would be heaven.


The WACMAMOFF (snuckles) White Anglo Celtic Multi-generational Australian Male Over Forty Five (though the age may be up for discussion), commonly known as the New black person
(damn your eyes, spell check)
NIQQER, and a serf and Untermensch in his own Homeland, subject to arbitrary legal sanction for being attacked by any of a selected group with 'Accredited Victim Status', who need only cry 'victim' and the forces of the Guv will stomp on that WACMAMOFF and render him unto criminality without cause.

Been going on, and downhill, ever since the heady days of the 'feminist' revolution, and the government-sponsored, inspired and promoted 'bloodless coup' to 'equalise' everybody.

For a bloodless coup, the casualties are mounting by the day - and we only really hear about the poor women caught up in this insane brushfire war designed by government as a means to exercise control over the general populace by introducing terrorism, arbitrary violence and fear, and unlawful sanctions without proper trial or rule of law, all clear signs of a despotic lack of government and governance.

No wonder the place is about to burst wide open... and there is endless anger out there, often without a clear direction or a clear definition of who and what is actually the enemy...

We need a man to rise from the Ashes.. a man of fearless courage and boundless determination and an absolute sense of right ... a man who will lead his people out of this abyss and back into the light...


* One simply does NOT refer to one's sNiggers as 'black persons' -to do so is demeaning since they may be any colour at all... and one does not wish to confuse the issues surrounding sNiggerdom, sNiggerphilia and sNiggerphobia doing the rounds these days....

Every man is someone else's sNigger..... any time a person is exploited they are a sNigger... any time they are abused by the state they are a sNigger..... so let all sNiggers stand together as one....
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Reply #35 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 3:14pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:30am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 11:39pm:
No.  It is because white people have discriminated actively against them, Setanta.   Roll Eyes


Please explain?

We want a Black Royal commission that will only listen to Blacks, only support their side of the story, only rationalise why Blacks should be handed stuff nobody else can get, will ignore the very real and pressing issues of 'black culture', and will simply (gasps) Whitewash the whole area of Indigenous problems... hell - why not just make it a Black Commissioner, and all Black staff, and then present it to the Australian people as a fair and impartial commission?

Been done before - look at that ridiculous Trade Union commission - a laughing stock - look at all the other commissions - equal laughing stocks.

Meanwhile nothing will change for the Indigenous women beaten, or the Indigenous kids who are neglected and abused, or the ones who grow up thinking they have an Entitlement to steal from Whitey etc, and then go into shock when they hit eighteen and end up in the slammer time after time, while all the young Indigenous girls start dropping kids at fifteen from serial fathers, or the conditions in which many live in poverty and despair and ill health remain the same or worse.

Let's just dress it all up pretty and throw a coat of Black paint over it and all will be well, and sell it to the people as a 'fair' result from a duly-appointed 'commission', all money wasted instead of actually addressing the issues.  Roll Eyes



Except, times are a'changin' old man.  Indigenous women are complaining, Indigenous girls aren't getting as easily pregnant and expect more of their lives than being baby factories, kids aren't all subject to abuse as you're painting and never have been.

Remember me mentioning the Little Kids are Sacred report and the subsequent Intervention which followed it, which failed dismally to address the matter of child sex?  No Indigenous man has ever been charged as a consequence of that Report.   Funny how the Intervention failed to address any one of the 66 recommendations from that report, isn't it?  Or is it?   Governments believe throwing money at Indigenous people will make them shut up and go away.   I wonder why?  Could it be the clamour from people like you?   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes

How about we ask the Indigenous People what they want instead of telling them what they supposedly need?   Mmmm?    Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #36 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 4:05pm
 
So once 'we' ask the Indigenous people that they want - what are the solutions?

Why is a Royal Commission needed to 'ask the Indigenous people what they want'

What do YOU suggest they 'want'?

What have THEY told YOU they 'want'?

Is what they 'want' realistic or feasible or even reasonable?

No such questions are ever answered here - just constant slurs on anyone who actually seeks to get some reality here..

How about we give the 'Indigenous people' ONE big chance to 'tell us what they want' - and then they shut up for a change about their sacred sites and other nonsense?

"Indigenous women are complaining, Indigenous girls aren't getting as easily pregnant and expect more of their lives than being baby factories, kids aren't all subject to abuse as you're painting and never have been."

Brilliant - just brilliant - Indigenous women should be complaining and rightlty so, young girls shouldn't just want to be 'baby factories' but should be entitled to expect more from life etc, and NOBODY said ALL Aboriginal kids were abused etc - as you seek to imply.

That doesn't mean that a significant number are not still included in those categories, Brian, and it is those who should be getting a hearing - not just some Coon who wants Mt Warning for a private reserve.

Your really need to start dealing with what people actually say instead of what you choose to read in, Brian.  You attitude does nothing to help your 'Indigenous' "brothers".
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Reply #37 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 7:12pm
 
It seems bwyannnnnnnn, that things are not getting better.

It's just that apologists would have everyone think they are

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.  How would you react if your 11-year-old daughter had a sexually transmitted infection? How would you take the news that your daughter is up to 10 times more likely to be the victim of sexual abuse than others in her class? How would you feel if she was sexually abused and no one bothered to report it?

To most of us these situations are unthinkable and it would be difficult to fathom how we would react to them.

This is the plight of hundreds of Aboriginal children in remote communities throughout Australia and this is only half of the story.

Recently in Parliament, Colin Barnett cited 39 cases of Aboriginal children reporting with an STI in 2013.

For this the Premier was condemned by protesters who, in my view, completely missed the point. Disturbingly, the reality he was trying to present was likely to be far worse.

Statistics about the magnitude of child sexual abuse in remote Aboriginal communities are unreliable, mainly because of deliberate under-reporting. The Australian Institute of Family Studies has estimated that up to 90 per cent of sexual abuse in these communities is under-reported.

Only last week I spoke to my management team in the Kimberley who continue to express concerns that workers in communities are deliberately not reporting STIs because of pressure from the abusers not to “betray” the culture.

Detectives from the Child Abuse Unit, under the most challenging conditions, have also identified gross under-reporting of abuse during their regional and remote investigations.

A police operation in the Pilbara identified that many people did not report child abuse because they believed child sex abuse was part of Aboriginal culture and that teenage pregnancy was a norm. Sex abuse is not part of Aboriginal culture, rather it is a practice built out of intimidation of women and children.

Abusers are equally divided between older men and teenage boys, the latter often beset with substance abuse problems or foetal alcohol spectrum disorder.

There are varying estimates of how many children are subjected to sexual abuse in remote communities, however, there seems to be a consensus that about one in four girls is subject to abuse and one in nine boys.

Pam Greer, a passionate Aboriginal activist in the area of Aboriginal family violence, was quoted as saying in 2007: “Men are having sex with children, young girls, young boys .(.(. It’s a tragic situation because the children lie awake at night, waiting for it to happen to them, just lie there, waiting. They know it’s coming for them, because it’s happened to everybody. And who are they getting abused by? People who are in positions of power .(.(. And what happens? The children get stoned, get drunk, hang themselves, and we all know why.”

This is exactly the situation we found in Oombulgurri, a Kimberley community often only accessible by boat from which the State Government has now withdrawn all services. It was a community where young girls were regularly preyed upon by the men who were the resident powerbrokers.

The facilitation of contraceptive implants in girls as young as 11 or 12 when requested by a parent or guardian resident in these communities or recommended by a health worker is not uncommon. This must surely be a last line of defence when it is not possible to adequately protect the children from predators.

Oombulgurri is too remote for the continuous attention that would have been needed to intervene in the cycle of abuse.

I am not suggesting that the closure of that community saved all those girls from abuse, however, there is no doubt that it disrupted the cycle of abuse of power and resulted in the charging and imprisonment of the perpetrators. A necessary first step. Many families moved to Wyndham, where there are services, support and housing.

There is always a dilemma when making a decision of the magnitude of closing a community, but the safety and welfare of our children must be pre-eminent.

The story of Oombulgurri is not unique. According to advice I received last week, the contraceptive implant Implanon is known to be prescribed for younger girls in the region. I was advised the use of the drug was not always in accordance with concerns about sexual activity but might be prescribed for “health reasons”. That statement sounds like just another addition to the confusing rhetoric around this problem and in my mind is nothing more than clever language.

I cannot respond to the safety and protection needs of these children in the way you would expect. It is simply not possible. If we facilitate the existence of communities beset by substance abuse, family violence and child abuse hundreds of kilometres from support or intervention services, then we must accept the loss of yet another generation of Aboriginal children. The Government gets it but many don’t.

In the past few days I have seen images of people trying to save whales at Bunbury and dolphins in the Serpentine River, to get them back to a place where they can survive and thrive. It’s a pity we are not all showing the same resolve for children in our remote communities.

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Reply #38 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 9:33pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 4:05pm:
So once 'we' ask the Indigenous people that they want - what are the solutions?

Why is a Royal Commission needed to 'ask the Indigenous people what they want'


Who's asking for one, Graps?   Angry white fellas?  Hey?  They know all about what Black fellas need, now don' they?  'Cause they tell 'em what they need.  Throw 'em some more grub, a little flour, some beef, a few tins of beans, hey?  If necessary, give 'em some grog to shut 'em up, make 'em happy, hey?

Sorry, Graps, we need to listen to what Indigenous Australians want and act on what they ask for.   We've had the Uluru conference, which was organised by the Indigenous Australians to present what they wanted from the Government.  What was the Government's response?  They ignored it, as per usual.    Roll Eyes


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Reply #39 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:29pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 9:33pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 4:05pm:
So once 'we' ask the Indigenous people that they want - what are the solutions?

Why is a Royal Commission needed to 'ask the Indigenous people what they want'


Who's asking for one, Graps?   Angry white fellas?  Hey?  They know all about what Black fellas need, now don' they?  'Cause they tell 'em what they need.  Throw 'em some more grub, a little flour, some beef, a few tins of beans, hey?  If necessary, give 'em some grog to shut 'em up, make 'em happy, hey?

Sorry, Graps, we need to listen to what Indigenous Australians want and act on what they ask for.   We've had the Uluru conference, which was organised by the Indigenous Australians to present what they wanted from the Government.  What was the Government's response?  They ignored it, as per usual.    Roll Eyes




Do you ever answer an easy question, or do you just always slang off at the asker?

What do the Niqqers actually want?  And is it even feasible?

What did the 'Uluru (Ayers Rock) Conference' actually say?

Out with it, man..... let's hear it from the Kaffir's mouth... no more obfuscation now... let's just get with it.....
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Reply #40 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 5:15am
 
The whole problem is that they themselves know not what they want.

All they know is they want IT

IT changes daily as they change their minds

Ultimately, they want to do nothing, achieve nothing and be nothing

But they demand respect
Respect for their culture
Respect for their birth accident
Respect for being nothing more than Aboriginal.

But respect is earned
What have they done as a race, a culture, a people, that entitles them to respect?

They claim it is because they have looked after the land.
Bulldust, they simply habitated it.

Explain to me, if you can, what they have done to earn respect?
Then we can discuss what they are entitled to.
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Reply #41 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 2:50pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 9:33pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 4:05pm:
So once 'we' ask the Indigenous people that they want - what are the solutions?

Why is a Royal Commission needed to 'ask the Indigenous people what they want'


Who's asking for one, Graps?   Angry white fellas?  Hey?  They know all about what Black fellas need, now don' they?  'Cause they tell 'em what they need.  Throw 'em some more grub, a little flour, some beef, a few tins of beans, hey?  If necessary, give 'em some grog to shut 'em up, make 'em happy, hey?

Sorry, Graps, we need to listen to what Indigenous Australians want and act on what they ask for.   We've had the Uluru conference, which was organised by the Indigenous Australians to present what they wanted from the Government.  What was the Government's response?  They ignored it, as per usual.    Roll Eyes




Do you ever answer an easy question, or do you just always slang off at the asker?

What do the Niqqers actually want?  And is it even feasible?

What did the 'Uluru (Ayers Rock) Conference' actually say?

Out with it, man..... let's hear it from the Kaffir's mouth... no more obfuscation now... let's just get with it.....


You have access to the most powerful search engines we have on the Internet, Graps.  Look it up.  You may be surprised that you appear to have missed this event and it's outcome.  Perhaps you're hitting the grog a bit too much lately?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #42 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 3:00pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2018 at 5:15am:
The whole problem is that they themselves know not what they want.

All they know is they want IT

IT changes daily as they change their minds

Ultimately, they want to do nothing, achieve nothing and be nothing

But they demand respect
Respect for their culture
Respect for their birth accident
Respect for being nothing more than Aboriginal.

But respect is earned
What have they done as a race, a culture, a people, that entitles them to respect?

They claim it is because they have looked after the land.
Bulldust, they simply habitated it.

Explain to me, if you can, what they have done to earn respect?
Then we can discuss what they are entitled to.


The Boongs have your respect, Matty. You said so.

It's only the Muslims you can't stand, and Islam is not a race so you can't possibly be a dirty racist.
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I smell...........troll
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Reply #44 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 6:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 9:33pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 4:05pm:
So once 'we' ask the Indigenous people that they want - what are the solutions?

Why is a Royal Commission needed to 'ask the Indigenous people what they want'


Who's asking for one, Graps?   Angry white fellas?  Hey?  They know all about what Black fellas need, now don' they?  'Cause they tell 'em what they need.  Throw 'em some more grub, a little flour, some beef, a few tins of beans, hey?  If necessary, give 'em some grog to shut 'em up, make 'em happy, hey?

Sorry, Graps, we need to listen to what Indigenous Australians want and act on what they ask for.   We've had the Uluru conference, which was organised by the Indigenous Australians to present what they wanted from the Government.  What was the Government's response?  They ignored it, as per usual.    Roll Eyes




Do you ever answer an easy question, or do you just always slang off at the asker?

What do the Niqqers actually want?  And is it even feasible?

What did the 'Uluru (Ayers Rock) Conference' actually say?

Out with it, man..... let's hear it from the Kaffir's mouth... no more obfuscation now... let's just get with it.....


You have access to the most powerful search engines we have on the Internet, Graps.  Look it up.  You may be surprised that you appear to have missed this event and it's outcome.  Perhaps you're hitting the grog a bit too much lately?    Roll Eyes


Ah, yes - the old slag the messenger to avoid putting up or shutting up... anyone else says anything you demand absolute solid everything - but ask a simple question of you?  Off you go and start insulting while providing nothing.

What did the Niqqers want at the Ayers Rock Conference?  Simple question... or didn't they know, either - apart from wanting to shut it down to tourists ....

Put 'em all  on a train and ship 'em to where work is prevalent..... earn their way... make a change...
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