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Australia should not Follow the US on Open Borders (Read 2714 times)
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Reply #15 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:22pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
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Study: Almost 90% of Refugees Still Not Working After 2 Years in The Netherlands


A recent study found that almost 90% of refugees are still not working after 2 1/2 years in The Netherlands.


The refugees found that they make as much money sitting at home as they do at low skilled jobs.

A 2017 study found similar numbers in Austria.
And a German study found only 1 in 5 refugees were working.


Voice of Europe reported:

Refugees with a residence permit barely have a job, Dutch newspaper “De Telegraaf” reports. Almost 90% of refugees, who received their residence permit in 2014, were unemployed two and a half years later, according to figures from the Dutch statistics office CBS.

While 11% of refugees do work, a large majority of them still don’t have a full-time job. After two and a half years only 15% are fully employed. The group mostly consists of Syrians and Eritreans: 75% of refugees come from one of those two countries.

Dutch migration researcher Jan van de Beek, tells De Telegraaf that a lot of migrants didn’t have decent education. According to Van de Beek especially low skilled jobs are unattractive for migrants because sometimes the benefits they receive are just as high as the income from a low skilled job.


no surprises here...

same is already happening in australia..

and they try and tell you that Mass immigration is good for Australia ???

pffft... who swallows that bullshit??


First and foremost it is not as simply as understanding the problem as Almost 90% of Refugees Still Not Working After 2 Years in The Netherlands. The facts are you need to understand the context, background and manipulation of figures to make a well rounded judgement.

Mass Immigration has its intrinsic benefits but also its pitfalls, as many things do. The fact is these immigrants, majority of them, have very few life skills, working skills and knowledge of the lifestyle here in Australia. No doubt some do wrong by the system but a little bit of understanding and sympathy must be had.

On Australia immigration. We have both the duty to keep the country safe and secure but also look after the basic human rights of all human beings. Immigration being one of them. Its a tough balance to maintain. 
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Reply #16 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:24pm
 
goldkam wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
On Australia immigration. We have both the duty to keep the country safe and secure but also look after the basic human rights of all human beings. Immigration being on them. Its a tough balance to maintain. 



A sensible, balanced comment on a serious issue. Who are you, and what are you doing in this forum. Theres no place for that here.
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Reply #17 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:26pm
 
So????

85% of so called refugees in Australia are not working after 5 years

*Source bureau of statistics

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Reply #18 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:28pm
 
red baron wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:26pm:
So????

85% of so called refugees in Australia are not working after 5 years

*Source bureau of statistics



Link?
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Reply #19 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:33pm
 
red baron wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:26pm:
So????

85% of so called refugees in Australia are not working after 5 years

*Source bureau of statistics





Australian? Wheres the link.
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Reply #20 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:35pm
 
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Products/6250.0~Nov+2010~Main+Features~E...


Heres a link Red Baron, go ahead and point out the 85%
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Reply #21 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:37pm
 
And even that 85% is true, it doesn't mean they are lazy or unwilling to work. You can't be employed if people don't offer you jobs.
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Reply #22 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:40pm
 
You can't be employed if you have no Englilsh nor any skills.
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Reply #23 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:41pm
 
Source Bureau opf Statistics

Question asked in Search Engine B of Stats

Unemployment rate for migrants?

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Perspectives on Migrants, Mar 2013 

Date Published: 27 Mar 2013

Catalogue Number: 3416.0
In the initial settlement period for all migrant groups, unemployment rates can be relatively high. ... Arrived. prior to 2005. %. %. %. %. %. %. %. In one family households. 82.4. 86.4. 85.4. 83.8. 81.6. 80.6. 82.9.

◦Migrant Families in Australia


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red baron wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:41pm:
Source Bureau opf Statistics

Question asked in Search Engine B of Sytats

Unemployment rate for migrants?

Response Verbatim
Perspectives on Migrants, Mar 2013 

Date Published: 27 Mar 2013

Catalogue Number: 3416.0
In the initial settlement period for all migrant groups, unemployment rates can be relatively high. ... Arrived. prior to 2005. %. %. %. %. %. %. %. In one family households. 82.4. 86.4. 85.4. 83.8. 81.6. 80.6. 82.9.

◦Migrant Families in Australia





Can you give us a link dude?
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Reply #25 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:41pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:40pm:
You can't be employed if you have no Englilsh nor any skills.




No you can't be employed with no Englilsh
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Reply #26 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:43pm
 
I simply opened the Bureau of Stats and typed my question in their search engine

Easy done
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Reply #27 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:44pm
 
red baron wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:43pm:
I simply opened the Bureau of Stats and typed my question in their search engine

Easy done


So is providing the Link, Mr Baron.  All you have to do is....post the link to what you say you found.  'Easy done.'
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Reply #28 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:45pm
 
red baron wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:43pm:
I simply opened the Bureau of Stats and typed my question in their search engine

Easy done



So it should be just as smacking easy to cut and paste the URL
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Reply #29 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 3:54pm
 
You guys wanted the stats and red gave them to you. Read them and weep.
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