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Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm
 
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

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Reply #1 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
Nice to see you're honest about yourself, but 'Ditzy'.........not quit right in your case.....

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Reply #2 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 7:36pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

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Bitch.

She'll pay for her crimes ... one day.

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Reply #3 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.
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Reply #4 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:26pm
 
what nonsense.  And if company tax causes businesses to increase their activity and workers get killed...fed govt should have known that increased business activity would get people killed then.
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Reply #5 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:35pm
 
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


Are you suggesting we have a RC ?
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Reply #6 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 11:00pm
 
The loud-clothed helmet-haired bogan has been uncharacteristically quiet lately. Has she been sent off to finishing school? Is she getting a nose job so she looks less like a witch?
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Reply #7 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 1:14am
 
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

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Josh were Bleck - he don' count to Cash....

Cash is an idiot and should go five years ago... where the HELL do the Libs get their people?
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Reply #8 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 1:21am
 
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


What has a Union got to do with such things when they have NO right to enforce workplace rules and laws, and the 'government' has removed from them any right to intervene?

What the Hell is wrong with you?  Unions don't control work - they SEEK to protect the rights of those who work - it is the BOSSES who control the work - and who are responsible for deaths and injuries when it is clear they did not follow the rules, and this 'government' has fought tooth and nail to refuse the Unions right of entry to even see workplace wrongs.

How the hell do you reckon Unions are responsible for this?

You remind me of a total moron who had worked for the Sydney water board, and had been 're-structured' out of that job by the MANAGEMENT - somehow he blamed the union - and carried that personal insanity on into his next job - the one where I was the Union man (unpaid) and fought to defend his rights at work.

You're mad, Mister.  Go out and get a real job... for once in your life. 

You just can't help lunatics.
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Reply #9 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 1:23am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


Bitch.

She'll pay for her crimes ... one day.



That she will - when a real government comes in....
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Reply #10 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 6:31am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 7:36pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


Bitch.

She'll pay for her crimes ... one day.



The thing is a lot of the time they dont. Pay for their crimes that is. Its nice to think they will but some just live through their lives and die without being brought to justice because pollies are like criminals and cops. They stick together and cover for their own and the victims never get closure.

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Reply #11 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 6:58am
 
Ditzy Bogan , why won't you answer the families questions ? Where is Mr Abbott demanding answers ?
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Reply #12 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 8:18am
 
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:35pm:
Are you suggesting we have a RC ?


Not at all. I'm just highlighting the score board.

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Reply #13 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 8:24am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 1:21am:
What has a Union got to do with such things when they have NO right to enforce workplace rules and laws, and the 'government' has removed from them any right to intervene?

What the Hell is wrong with you?  Unions don't control work - they SEEK to protect the rights of those who work - it is the BOSSES who control the work - and who are responsible for deaths and injuries when it is clear they did not follow the rules, and this 'government' has fought tooth and nail to refuse the Unions right of entry to even see workplace wrongs.

How the hell do you reckon Unions are responsible for this?

You remind me of a total moron who had worked for the Sydney water board, and had been 're-structured' out of that job by the MANAGEMENT - somehow he blamed the union - and carried that personal insanity on into his next job - the one where I was the Union man (unpaid) and fought to defend his rights at work.

You're mad, Mister.  Go out and get a real job... for once in your life. 

You just can't help lunatics.


If I were you I'd ease up on that medication. I think you'll find the label on the bottle says "this medication may cause bouts of irrational behaviour." Also check the lid on the white-out bottle. Inhaling the fumes can lead to psychosis.
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Reply #14 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 6:59pm
 
salad in wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 8:24am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 1:21am:
What has a Union got to do with such things when they have NO right to enforce workplace rules and laws, and the 'government' has removed from them any right to intervene?

What the Hell is wrong with you?  Unions don't control work - they SEEK to protect the rights of those who work - it is the BOSSES who control the work - and who are responsible for deaths and injuries when it is clear they did not follow the rules, and this 'government' has fought tooth and nail to refuse the Unions right of entry to even see workplace wrongs.

How the hell do you reckon Unions are responsible for this?

You remind me of a total moron who had worked for the Sydney water board, and had been 're-structured' out of that job by the MANAGEMENT - somehow he blamed the union - and carried that personal insanity on into his next job - the one where I was the Union man (unpaid) and fought to defend his rights at work.

You're mad, Mister.  Go out and get a real job... for once in your life. 

You just can't help lunatics.


If I were you I'd ease up on that medication. I think you'll find the label on the bottle says "this medication may cause bouts of irrational behaviour." Also check the lid on the white-out bottle. Inhaling the fumes can lead to psychosis.


Surely nobody could be as stupid as you unless they set out to be.
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Reply #15 - Apr 19th, 2018 at 8:41pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 1:21am:
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


What has a Union got to do with such things when they have NO right to enforce workplace rules and laws, and the 'government' has removed from them any right to intervene?

What the Hell is wrong with you?  Unions don't control work - they SEEK to protect the rights of those who work - it is the BOSSES who control the work - and who are responsible for deaths and injuries when it is clear they did not follow the rules, and this 'government' has fought tooth and nail to refuse the Unions right of entry to even see workplace wrongs.

How the hell do you reckon Unions are responsible for this?

You remind me of a total moron who had worked for the Sydney water board, and had been 're-structured' out of that job by the MANAGEMENT - somehow he blamed the union - and carried that personal insanity on into his next job - the one where I was the Union man (unpaid) and fought to defend his rights at work.

You're mad, Mister.  Go out and get a real job... for once in your life. 

You just can't help lunatics.


Grin Pretty much spot on Grap.
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Reply #16 - Apr 20th, 2018 at 10:58am
 
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


Credit is where credit is due.  May be, if you had read the article that you have quoted, you would find that:

Matthew Fuller:  The company was directed by 19-year-old electrician Ben McKay, who was in charge of on-the-job safety for unqualified insulation installers like Matthew.

During the inquest into Matthew's death, Mr McKay told the Brisbane coroner's court that the installation could have been made 100 per cent safe by disconnecting power from the mains source.

But he said this was not routinely done because the work involved would have made it impossible for his company to make a profit.

At the inquest in May 2013, Mr McKay acknowledged he had been aware of up to four instances where staples had been put through cables before Matthew's death.

----> To me, this is death caused by his boss quest for profit and money, rather than the insulation program.

Rueben Barnes:  The first-year carpentry apprentice had been working for installation company Arrow Maintenance for less than a month and had received no insulation training and no induction.

His co-workers at the site had not been trained in first aid treatment for electric shock.

Again, its the company who had made these decision, not to properly train their staff before subjecting them to potentionally dangerous works.

Marcus Wilson: Marcus Wilson, 19, from New South Wales, died of heat exhaustion after spending his first day in a new job working in a roof cavity installing insulation.

He was the third person to die in connection to the scheme and his death prompted calls from the Australian Council of Trade Unions to halt the scheme until safety standards were improved.

Again, its his boss who is forcing him to work in unsafe environment. 

Michell Sweeney:  The 22-year-old died after being electrocuted while using metal staples to lay conductive insulation in a roof in Cairns.

The practice had known safety hazards and had already been banned in New Zealand.

Lawyer Peter Koutsoukis from Maurice Blackburn is suing Mitchell's employer, Titan Insulations, on behalf of the young man's mother and two older brothers.

Again, it is the boss of the company that used an unsafe practice to earn money.  And something went wrong.

Yes, perhaps the insulation scheme was a bit hastily implemented, but it was the time that quick and decisive measures must be made.   However, anyone with any analytical skill would  put the ultimate responsibility of these death squarely with their employers who got a bit too greedy 
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Reply #17 - Apr 20th, 2018 at 12:41pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 10:58am:
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


Credit is where credit is due.  May be, if you had read the article that you have quoted, you would find that:

Matthew Fuller:  The company was directed by 19-year-old electrician Ben McKay, who was in charge of on-the-job safety for unqualified insulation installers like Matthew.

During the inquest into Matthew's death, Mr McKay told the Brisbane coroner's court that the installation could have been made 100 per cent safe by disconnecting power from the mains source.

But he said this was not routinely done because the work involved would have made it impossible for his company to make a profit.

At the inquest in May 2013, Mr McKay acknowledged he had been aware of up to four instances where staples had been put through cables before Matthew's death.

----> To me, this is death caused by his boss quest for profit and money, rather than the insulation program.

Rueben Barnes:  The first-year carpentry apprentice had been working for installation company Arrow Maintenance for less than a month and had received no insulation training and no induction.

His co-workers at the site had not been trained in first aid treatment for electric shock.

Again, its the company who had made these decision, not to properly train their staff before subjecting them to potentionally dangerous works.

Marcus Wilson: Marcus Wilson, 19, from New South Wales, died of heat exhaustion after spending his first day in a new job working in a roof cavity installing insulation.

He was the third person to die in connection to the scheme and his death prompted calls from the Australian Council of Trade Unions to halt the scheme until safety standards were improved.

Again, its his boss who is forcing him to work in unsafe environment. 

Michell Sweeney:  The 22-year-old died after being electrocuted while using metal staples to lay conductive insulation in a roof in Cairns.

The practice had known safety hazards and had already been banned in New Zealand.

Lawyer Peter Koutsoukis from Maurice Blackburn is suing Mitchell's employer, Titan Insulations, on behalf of the young man's mother and two older brothers.

Again, it is the boss of the company that used an unsafe practice to earn money.  And something went wrong.

Yes, perhaps the insulation scheme was a bit hastily implemented, but it was the time that quick and decisive measures must be made.   However, anyone with any analytical skill would  put the ultimate responsibility of these death squarely with their employers who got a bit too greedy

If one listened to the lackwitted conservatives on this particular topic, one would think that Rudd and Garrett were personally present on every building site electrocuting people with their own bare hands.  Roll Eyes

The truth is, safety regulations are necessary to prevent accidents, conservative governments are historically very lax with safety regulations, and slipshod business operators who cut corners on safety are the ones to blame.
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Reply #18 - Apr 20th, 2018 at 2:36pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad

Hey, didn't the Libbo c words lose 30 newspolls before the 30 just gone, btw!???!

(They,... big business that is, know they are in election trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Reply #19 - Apr 20th, 2018 at 7:05pm
 
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.




CHRIST - not THAT old "furphy" again ?


Evidence presented before Abbott's hundred million dollar "Get Rudd" Royal Commission found that house fires and fatalities had actually FALLEN severely, on a pro-rata basis, once the first ever installer accreditation was introduced to coincide with the scheme

saladin must be a big fan of Joseph Goebbels

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Re: Ditzy bogan , why so quiet ?
Reply #20 - Apr 20th, 2018 at 11:08pm
 
Bam wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 10:58am:
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


Credit is where credit is due.  May be, if you had read the article that you have quoted, you would find that:

Matthew Fuller:  The company was directed by 19-year-old electrician Ben McKay, who was in charge of on-the-job safety for unqualified insulation installers like Matthew.

During the inquest into Matthew's death, Mr McKay told the Brisbane coroner's court that the installation could have been made 100 per cent safe by disconnecting power from the mains source.

But he said this was not routinely done because the work involved would have made it impossible for his company to make a profit.

At the inquest in May 2013, Mr McKay acknowledged he had been aware of up to four instances where staples had been put through cables before Matthew's death.

----> To me, this is death caused by his boss quest for profit and money, rather than the insulation program.

Rueben Barnes:  The first-year carpentry apprentice had been working for installation company Arrow Maintenance for less than a month and had received no insulation training and no induction.

His co-workers at the site had not been trained in first aid treatment for electric shock.

Again, its the company who had made these decision, not to properly train their staff before subjecting them to potentionally dangerous works.

Marcus Wilson: Marcus Wilson, 19, from New South Wales, died of heat exhaustion after spending his first day in a new job working in a roof cavity installing insulation.

He was the third person to die in connection to the scheme and his death prompted calls from the Australian Council of Trade Unions to halt the scheme until safety standards were improved.

Again, its his boss who is forcing him to work in unsafe environment. 

Michell Sweeney:  The 22-year-old died after being electrocuted while using metal staples to lay conductive insulation in a roof in Cairns.

The practice had known safety hazards and had already been banned in New Zealand.

Lawyer Peter Koutsoukis from Maurice Blackburn is suing Mitchell's employer, Titan Insulations, on behalf of the young man's mother and two older brothers.

Again, it is the boss of the company that used an unsafe practice to earn money.  And something went wrong.

Yes, perhaps the insulation scheme was a bit hastily implemented, but it was the time that quick and decisive measures must be made.   However, anyone with any analytical skill would  put the ultimate responsibility of these death squarely with their employers who got a bit too greedy

If one listened to the lackwitted conservatives on this particular topic, one would think that Rudd and Garrett were personally present on every building site electrocuting people with their own bare hands.  Roll Eyes

The truth is, safety regulations are necessary to prevent accidents, conservative governments are historically very lax with safety regulations, and slipshod business operators who cut corners on safety are the ones to blame.


Lax to the point of deregulating and removing reg those protections.
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Re: Ditzy bogan , why so quiet ?
Reply #21 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 8:59am
 
salad in wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
On Thursday, it will be two years since 18-year-old Joshua Park-Fing died on a government-sponsored Work for the Dole site.

Josh was forced to ride on the back of a flatbed trailer without a harness, while being towed by a tractor. It’s suspected the tractor slipped a gear and jolted, causing the teen to fall and hit his head. Josh died from head injuries.

Two years on and his family still don't have answers about his death.

Jobs minister Michaelia Cash has refused to release the report into what happened and won't answer questions.

Sad


The ALP, the workers' friend, the progressive party, the party of ideas, has a woeful record when it comes to worker safety.

Royal Commission into the Home Insulation Program: The four men who died


Read more about the four men whose deaths are linked to the scheme, which was set up in 2009 as an economic stimulus measure to help ward off the effects of the global financial crisis.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-17/young-men-who-died-in-insulation-scheme/53...

ABC....a fine and trusted news source.


Nothing like a bit of diversion in the morning - what is wrong with making a comment on this topic ????
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Reply #22 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:52am
 
Has anyone seen the bogan Cash in any press conference lately?
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Reply #23 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 10:02am
 
Bam wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:52am:
Has anyone seen the bogan Cash in any press conference lately?


Nope , still hiding behind white boards like a spineless coward , we will get her don't you worry about that  Smiley
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Reply #24 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 2:44pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Evidence presented before Abbott's hundred million dollar "Get Rudd" Royal Commission found that house fires and fatalities had actually FALLEN severely, on a pro-rata basis, once the first ever installer accreditation was introduced to coincide with the scheme



Hey buzz don't tell me tell the families of those four people who lost their lives. I'll get the addresses for you and you can deliver the news. I suggest you open with ........."I've got good news for you........" I'm sure they will be impressed.
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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
 
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Reply #25 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 11:20pm
 
salad in wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 2:44pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Evidence presented before Abbott's hundred million dollar "Get Rudd" Royal Commission found that house fires and fatalities had actually FALLEN severely, on a pro-rata basis, once the first ever installer accreditation was introduced to coincide with the scheme



Hey buzz don't tell me tell the families of those four people who lost their lives. I'll get the addresses for you and you can deliver the news. I suggest you open with ........."I've got good news for you........" I'm sure they will be impressed.


As sad as it is, those families are dumb if they believe that Rudd govt was responsible.

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Reply #26 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 3:45pm
 
Polly Waffle is drowning in his own waffle.

How many work accidents are there in a few years ? Why is this one so special in Polly Waffle's muddled mind ?

It all sounds a bit suss. But then Polly Waffle is very suss.
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Re: Ditzy bogan , why so quiet ?
Reply #27 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 9:35pm
 
stunspore wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 11:20pm:
salad in wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 2:44pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 7:05pm:
Evidence presented before Abbott's hundred million dollar "Get Rudd" Royal Commission found that house fires and fatalities had actually FALLEN severely, on a pro-rata basis, once the first ever installer accreditation was introduced to coincide with the scheme



Hey buzz don't tell me tell the families of those four people who lost their lives. I'll get the addresses for you and you can deliver the news. I suggest you open with ........."I've got good news for you........" I'm sure they will be impressed.


As sad as it is, those families are dumb if they believe that Rudd govt was responsible.

It's just another example of how the Coalition are  soft on company crime.
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Re: Ditzy bogan , why so quiet ?
Reply #28 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 10:02am:
Bam wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:52am:
Has anyone seen the bogan Cash in any press conference lately?


Nope , still hiding behind white boards like a spineless coward Smiley




I believe Deputy Finance Minister
Kelly O'Dwyer
has put in a request for them - after yesterday's diabolical interview with Barry Cassidy on "Insiders"



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Reply #29 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 8:53pm
 
Looks like Polly Waffle's storm in a tea cup has fizzled again. Tea cup empty?
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Re: Ditzy bogan , why so quiet ?
Reply #30 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 9:12pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 23rd, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 10:02am:
Bam wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 9:52am:
Has anyone seen the bogan Cash in any press conference lately?


Nope , still hiding behind white boards like a spineless coward Smiley




I believe Deputy Finance Minister
Kelly O'Dwyer
has put in a request for them - after yesterday's diabolical interview with Barry Cassidy on "Insiders"





She makes asbestos Julie and the ditzy bogan almost look like decent human beings.

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