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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	New Defence Chief. Apr 16^th, 2018 at 2:47pm Lt Gen Angus Campbell: Link. Relevant people I know applaud the appointment.
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Reply #1 - Apr 16^th, 2018 at 2:56pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

Lt Gen Angus Campbell:

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Relevant people I know applaud the appointment.

Yes, I am sure he will do well. I am very glad Vice Admiral Ray Griggs did not get the appointment, even though he was VCDF. I would say there will be quite a few celebratory drinks in Wardrooms around the country celebrating his non-appointment. I would hope he would move on and the sooner the better for all concerned in Navy

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Reply #2 - Apr 16^th, 2018 at 6:14pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

Lt Gen Angus Campbell:

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Relevant people I know applaud the appointment.

It was on the cards. Campbell knows how to play the Politicians and he is liked by the Pollies, being "known" to them from his previous command.

Appears one now has to come from the "Special Forces" stable to get a Guernsey in Higher Command in the ADF. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Moderator Offline Representative of me Posts: 39589	Re: New Defence Chief. Reply #3 - Apr 19^th, 2018 at 5:33pm Chief of Army bans soldiers from wearing 'arrogant' death symbols Weren't allowed in my day...
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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8213 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: New Defence Chief. Reply #4 - Apr 20^th, 2018 at 7:13am .
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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8213 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: New Defence Chief. Reply #5 - Apr 20^th, 2018 at 7:18am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19^th, 2018 at 5:33pm: Chief of Army bans soldiers from wearing 'arrogant' death symbols Weren't allowed in my day... We still have them in Navy, mainly on the Patrol Boats, but here is one that caused a bit of strife in it's day
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: New Defence Chief. Reply #6 - Apr 20^th, 2018 at 8:12am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19^th, 2018 at 5:33pm: Chief of Army bans soldiers from wearing 'arrogant' death symbols Weren't allowed in my day... I used to wear a smiley face instead of my squadron patch, my bosses didn't like that either. No pleasing some people.
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 46598 Gender:	Re: New Defence Chief. Reply #7 - Apr 20^th, 2018 at 11:54am Isn't the official USA patch a picture of 'Spock' saying "We come in peace, to leave your nation in pieces!" ?
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Reply #8 - Apr 21^st, 2018 at 3:39pm

Vic wrote on Apr 20^th, 2018 at 7:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19^th, 2018 at 5:33pm:

Chief of Army bans soldiers from wearing 'arrogant' death symbols Weren't allowed in my day... Roll Eyes

We still have them in Navy, mainly on the Patrol Boats, but here is one that caused a bit of strife in it's day

Doesn't look to me like it could be classified as an 'arrogant' death symbol', Vic. My units have had various "joke" flashes, unit symbols, mascots when on Exercise. They are intended for fun and are not terrifying IMO. This order by the incoming CDF is intended to stop "stupidity creep" from the "Special Forces" and the more gung-ho diggers who believe acting like American cowboys is a good thing. I've seen an RSM do his block at a detachment of APC crew who believed that wearing chromed helmets and cowboy hats was a good idea on one exercise. If it isn't in the Dress Manual, hasn't been OK'ed in Routine or Standing Orders, it isn't kosher IMO and deserves to be binned. Most "joke" flashes, unit symbols, mascosts are OK'ed by the authorities. Where would we be without the Red Roosters, Elephants and so on, often placed on Army vehicles when visiting certain units? We'd be poorer for it. Roll Eyes

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80330 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: New Defence Chief. Reply #9 - Apr 24^th, 2018 at 11:18pm Aye - the Campbell - most fractious of the Heeghlant clans... Sold his soul for a good gig in the politically correct world we now live in... Wait until the casualty lists come in from The Next One....
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Re: New Defence Chief.
Reply #10 - Apr 24^th, 2018 at 11:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 6:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

Lt Gen Angus Campbell:

Link.

Relevant people I know applaud the appointment.

It was on the cards. Campbell knows how to play the Politicians and he is liked by the Pollies, being "known" to them from his previous command.

Appears one now has to come from the "Special Forces" stable to get a Guernsey in Higher Command in the ADF. Roll Eyes

Officers are not necessarily 'Special Forces' - they are adjuncts and organisers of LOC and supplies and pretend to be in command from 5,000 feet (or more depending on rank)... with the exception of a few... but it's a nice blip on your record... you ever see a 'Special forces Officer' in direct combat?

It's a career path.... nothing to do with merit....

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