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Apr 15th, 2018 at 7:30am
 
Couchsurfing and living in cars: 11,000 tertiary students are homeless   Sad

Canberra Times
April 15 2018

Rhys Mitchell was working as a chef, living in a sharehouse in Footscray and looking forward to his studies in psychology at Victoria University. But by the time the semester had started he was squatting on an airbed in an abandoned Yarraville hoarder's house, with maggots in the fridge and dead rats decomposing on the floor.   

"It was pretty gnarly," the 26-year-old says now. "I ended up having a bit of a breakdown just from being overwhelmed with it all."

While recent headlines have noted Australia's growing homelessness problem, hidden in the figures is the rising number of young people - like Mr Mitchell - who are putting themselves through tertiary education while homeless.

On the last census night, 10,813 university or TAFE students were homeless, according to statistics released recently. Of those, 1117 were living in facilities for the homeless, 1073 were couchsurfing and 1765 were in boarding houses. Close to 7000 were living in "severely overcrowded" homes, and 81 were sleeping rough or in cars.   

The figures show tertiary students represent nearly 10 per cent of all homeless Australians.

"That's phenomenal really," said Kate Colvin, deputy chief executive of the Council to Homeless Persons. "It’s almost impossible for students on low incomes to afford housing, and that’s why we’re seeing increased homelessness of university and TAFE students."

Mr Mitchell said he was struck by "a really unlucky set of circumstances" when his sharehouse lease ended late in 2016. Though he had a steady job as a chef, his employer was struggling with the bills and he didn't have sufficient savings for a new bond. He knew some ex-squatters and was attracted by the prospect of not paying a landlord each month.

"I spent a few hours driving around the nearby neighbourhood to see letterboxes overflowing or bins that were not being put out on bin night," Mr Mitchell said. "I found a place that was abandoned: the back door was open; it looked like nobody had lived there for a long time;everything was disconnected; there were maggots in the fridge."

Friends attest they helped Mr Mitchell to clean and fix up the Yarraville property. He told the neighbours he was a distant relative of the owner, but that story didn't hold water forever, and one day he returned to find the police had thrown his belongings on to the street. After that he spent a few weeks in his car or on friends' couches, "bouncing around other people’s places ... staying wherever I could".

That type of itinerant living is familiar to housing experts, who stress that homelessness does not just include people sleeping rough on the street but people in all sorts of compromised housing circumstances. The census showed 6771 tertiary students were homeless because they were in "severely overcrowded" dwellings, which the Australian Bureau of Statistics defines as a house that needs four or more extra bedrooms to properly accommodate its inhabitants.

“Hopping from couch to couch or living in severely overcrowded apartments without any privacy or space to study and socialise is harmful and makes it impossible to achieve your full potential,” said Jenny Smith, chair of Homelessness Australia.   

"Their homelessness is so often hidden from view but is every bit as damaging."

Luke Kenton, a 20-year-old policy, philosophy and economics student at the Australian National University, went from a comfortable college dorm to sleeping on couches in a matter of weeks. Having decided to leave college, he found it impossible to secure a sharehouse lease in Canberra, despite making an estimated 30-plus applications and having steady work in a politician's office.

In a two-month period, Mr Kenton lived in four locations - including couches and a spare bed with a friend's family - while trying to start the university year.

"If you’re living on a couch you can't really put anything away anywhere," he said. "You don’t really have any of your own space to study or work. You have to be the first person awake every day and the last person to go to sleep. It definitely affected my study to an extent. It just made me exhausted."

Ms Colvin said the fundamental problem was a lack of affordable housing in the major centres - a problem that had not been addressed by apartment booms in Sydney and Melbourne. She also called for an increase in the Commonwealth Rent Assistance payment which, for a single person sharing a house, is capped at $89.87 a fortnight and has not kept pace with skyrocketing rents.

Advocates will repeat their calls for action on Wednesday, which is Youth Homelessness Day.

The Turnbull government is still negotiating its revised National Housing and Homelessness Agreement with the states in a bid to make the scheme more accountable. The initiative, which was set up under Labor, had failed to meet most of its goals, including increases in supply and reductions in the number of people in rental stress.

Mr Kenton found a permanent place to live in the Canberra suburb of Hackett, while Mr Mitchell found a room without a bond in his old stomping ground of Footscray. Both young men said they got "incredibly lucky", and while their studies may have been jeopardised for a period, they are now back on track.

"Looking back on the experience, it was almost like I was on a drug or something. It was so strange," Mr Mitchell said. 
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About 9 years ago i was trying to find a place in canberra. I had money at the time too but there just wasnt anything. whenever anything came up there were so many applicants for it that there was no hope. In the end i went to brisbane and got a place there. Seriously - it was easier to get somewhere to live in brisbane than canberra. I didnt even try sydney.

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But you must realize that you have to give a little to ensure that all the deadbeats we bring into this country get free housing.

Heaven forbid that Australians dare to even consider the barest possibility of being considered first.

It's more important to hand everything over to dead beat country shoppers than support the people who have paid taxes or who will eventually pay taxes.
Better to give housing to those who will never pay taxes, be involved in criminal enterprise and insult us and our country on a daily basis.

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Reply #3 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 9:02am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 8:14am:
But you must realize that you have to give a little to ensure that all the deadbeats we bring into this country get free housing.

Heaven forbid that Australians dare to even consider the barest possibility of being considered first.

It's more important to hand everything over to dead beat country shoppers than support the people who have paid taxes or who will eventually pay taxes.
Better to give housing to those who will never pay taxes, be involved in criminal enterprise and insult us and our country on a daily basis.

What is wrong with our politicians??????


I agree with you in some respects. There needs to be a more wholistic and cohesive system that offers more equitability. I think what many forget is that many of these people are fleeing from war torn countries and thus have no awareness of what Australia offers, thus insulting them when the Australian government is behind the scheme is wrong.

Simply denoting them as deadbeats, criminal is wrong no doubt some are but to blanket such a statement is absurd. Additionally Australia does also have to serve its human rights obligations, which I think many forget.
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It's the system (free trade / Globalisation) we have adopted all over the world so the elite the 1% the oligarchy can hoard all the wealth of this world.

Many have spoken about it, it applies equally to all nations not just the USA.

Quote:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

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Well, well, well...... it seems that there is something tragically wrong with the old 'family structure' that used to shelter, nurture and enhance the opportunities of its junior members.... no wonder the old style 'patriarchal' families such as Greeks and Italians and Gypos and Asians and ETC are out-stripping Australian multi-generationals for the top jobs etc...  now I wonder where the blame really lies for this savage downturn in conditions for young Australian people... and many older ones as well.

Might it have something to do with a complex of legislative/policy drives deliberately designed to advance certain specified groups within society to the detriment of the rest?

You all know me by now - I'd NEVUH scream FEMINIST/GAY/ETHNIC PREFERENCE and so forth along with dopey sheilas only interested in their own wants and not the best good of their children etc, from the rooftops as being the base cause of this deterioration of our nation and its people.....  NEVUH!!... being basically at its root the destruction of GENUINE equal opportunity based on GENUINE need and requirement and ability, in exchange for a bland soup of 'qualified' and  'capable' people holding the good spots as long as they fit into a group handed Accredited Victim Status.....

Poor Fellow - My Country!  Express elevator to hell - all the way down....
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Well, well, well...... it seems that there is something tragically wrong with the old 'family structure' that used to shelter, nurture and enhance the opportunities of its junior members.... no wonder the old style 'patriarchal' families such as Greeks and Italians and Gypos and Asians and ETC are out-stripping Australian multi-generationals for the top jobs etc...  now I wonder where the blame really lies for this savage downturn in conditions for young Australian people... and many older ones as well.

Might it have something to do with a complex of legislative/policy drives deliberately designed to advance certain specified groups within society to the detriment of the rest?

You all know me by now - I'd NEVUH scream FEMINIST/GAY/ETHNIC PREFERENCE and so forth along with dopey sheilas only interested in their own wants and not the best good of their children etc, from the rooftops as being the base cause of this deterioration of our nation and its people.....  NEVUH!!... being basically at its root the destruction of GENUINE equal opportunity based on GENUINE need and requirement and ability, in exchange for a bland soup of 'qualified' and  'capable' people holding the good spots as long as they fit into a group handed Accredited Victim Status.....

Poor Fellow - My Country!  Express elevator to hell - all the way down....


What the ferk are you talking about grap…..?

The children born here of the first immigrants from Greece, Italy, Asia or where ever are not Greeks Italians etc. etc they are AUSTRALIAN make no mistake about that, just like you, they may not look like you but they are still aussies just the same as you.

Maybe the first generation of immigrants have found memories of the homeland but the ones born here live and die like aussies no different to you, they may want to go for a holiday for sentimental reasons but Australia is their home.

I take myself as an example, as a teenager I completely rejected my Greek heritage but as I have grown older I have come to embrace it, it’s a part of me and one day I would like to go for a holiday to see the land my folks came from but even though my blood is Greek my mind and my heart are Australian.

As for my kids they learnt some Greek to communicate with the grand parents but if they went to Greece they would have a hard time getting around with the lingo.

In 50 to a hundred years all that will be left will probably be the name, if they don’t change it.

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Once again WhiteKnight.
Where does it say that 'Camping' is 'Homelessness'?
Huh

I'll  be living in a small Tent soon, via my Ute - again.
My time here is soon over and time to move on again.
In a way, I can't wait.
I'm heading further south.

I remember when I lived in my vehicle when I lived in Melbourne too, many years ago.
There I was, working in a Backpacker Hostel, looking after 'shoestring' budget travellers, while living in the old 'hanger' on the Yarra near the heliport. For a 'fraction' of the cost that it would cost for me to stay in a Backpacker Hostel.
$126 month for car-space to park vehicle for sleep, etc.
$40 a month for Swanston St Baths - keep hygienic, laps.
$100 a week for food: always 'eat out'.
...then it was also 'sleeping' at Box Hill TAFE carpark while doing study there as well.

I loved the lifestyle. The 'Freedom' to roam the wilds, rather than be cooped up in the Castle like a battery-hen. Gobble Gobble.

So if these 'home-less' people choose to live in environments that are both not 'suitable' and 'supportive' of their 'life-style', then they deserve every hardship they encounter!  Roll Eyes

You want to live in a Tent? Then go live where Tents are suitable. Don't go blaming a certain neck of the woods (City) for your 'lack of'.
If you can't live up to being an American?
Then F-orff and go live in Australia (etc)!

There are an enormous amount of areas and places that are both suitable and supportive to living in a Tent or out of a vehicle.

Personally?
These inner-city 'homeless' really do need to be 'kicked out' of the City.
But of course, this would sort the 'Bludgers' from the 'Battlers' ...as the 'Bludgers' would slowly crawl back into the city to play the victim card as usual. While the 'Battlers' would find their 'niche' of success out there from their small world of tent & vehicle.

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Ajax wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Well, well, well...... it seems that there is something tragically wrong with the old 'family structure' that used to shelter, nurture and enhance the opportunities of its junior members.... no wonder the old style 'patriarchal' families such as Greeks and Italians and Gypos and Asians and ETC are out-stripping Australian multi-generationals for the top jobs etc...  now I wonder where the blame really lies for this savage downturn in conditions for young Australian people... and many older ones as well.

Might it have something to do with a complex of legislative/policy drives deliberately designed to advance certain specified groups within society to the detriment of the rest?

You all know me by now - I'd NEVUH scream FEMINIST/GAY/ETHNIC PREFERENCE and so forth along with dopey sheilas only interested in their own wants and not the best good of their children etc, from the rooftops as being the base cause of this deterioration of our nation and its people.....  NEVUH!!... being basically at its root the destruction of GENUINE equal opportunity based on GENUINE need and requirement and ability, in exchange for a bland soup of 'qualified' and  'capable' people holding the good spots as long as they fit into a group handed Accredited Victim Status.....

Poor Fellow - My Country!  Express elevator to hell - all the way down....


What the ferk are you talking about grap…..?

The children born here of the first immigrants from Greece, Italy, Asia or where ever are not Greeks Italians etc. etc they are AUSTRALIAN make no mistake about that, just like you, they may not look like you but they are still aussies just the same as you.

Maybe the first generation of immigrants have found memories of the homeland but the ones born here live and die like aussies no different to you, they may want to go for a holiday for sentimental reasons but Australia is their home.

I take myself as an example, as a teenager I completely rejected my Greek heritage but as I have grown older I have come to embrace it, it’s a part of me and one day I would like to go for a holiday to see the land my folks came from but even though my blood is Greek my mind and my heart are Australian.

As for my kids they learnt some Greek to communicate with the grand parents but if they went to Greece they would have a hard time getting around with the lingo.

In 50 to a hundred years all that will be left will probably be the name, if they don’t change it.



You missed it, didn't you - this has been the case ever since the acceptance of those patriarchal groups... one of the joys of being an old bastard is that you've seen it happen.

Your very examples demonstrate an organised and 'lead' family institution.... something that seems to be sadly lacking in our longer term Australians - for many reasons...
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Ajax wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Well, well, well...... it seems that there is something tragically wrong with the old 'family structure' that used to shelter, nurture and enhance the opportunities of its junior members.... no wonder the old style 'patriarchal' families such as Greeks and Italians and Gypos and Asians and ETC are out-stripping Australian multi-generationals for the top jobs etc...  now I wonder where the blame really lies for this savage downturn in conditions for young Australian people... and many older ones as well.

Might it have something to do with a complex of legislative/policy drives deliberately designed to advance certain specified groups within society to the detriment of the rest?

You all know me by now - I'd NEVUH scream FEMINIST/GAY/ETHNIC PREFERENCE and so forth along with dopey sheilas only interested in their own wants and not the best good of their children etc, from the rooftops as being the base cause of this deterioration of our nation and its people.....  NEVUH!!... being basically at its root the destruction of GENUINE equal opportunity based on GENUINE need and requirement and ability, in exchange for a bland soup of 'qualified' and  'capable' people holding the good spots as long as they fit into a group handed Accredited Victim Status.....

Poor Fellow - My Country!  Express elevator to hell - all the way down....


What the ferk are you talking about grap…..?

The children born here of the first immigrants from Greece, Italy, Asia or where ever are not Greeks Italians etc. etc they are AUSTRALIAN make no mistake about that, just like you, they may not look like you but they are still aussies just the same as you.

Maybe the first generation of immigrants have found memories of the homeland but the ones born here live and die like aussies no different to you, they may want to go for a holiday for sentimental reasons but Australia is their home.

I take myself as an example, as a teenager I completely rejected my Greek heritage but as I have grown older I have come to embrace it, it’s a part of me and one day I would like to go for a holiday to see the land my folks came from but even though my blood is Greek my mind and my heart are Australian.

As for my kids they learnt some Greek to communicate with the grand parents but if they went to Greece they would have a hard time getting around with the lingo.

In 50 to a hundred years all that will be left will probably be the name, if they don’t change it.



You missed it, didn't you - this has been the case ever since the acceptance of those patriarchal groups... one of the joys of being an old bastard is that you've seen it happen.

Your very examples demonstrate an organised and 'lead' family institution.... something that seems to be sadly lacking in our longer term Australians - for many reasons...


If it was lacking back in those days make no mistake, today the Anglo Saxons families are on par with the patriarchal families of Europe and Asia if for no other reason than the financial slavery bestowed upon us all.
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Ajax wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 12:04pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Ajax wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:46am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Well, well, well...... it seems that there is something tragically wrong with the old 'family structure' that used to shelter, nurture and enhance the opportunities of its junior members.... no wonder the old style 'patriarchal' families such as Greeks and Italians and Gypos and Asians and ETC are out-stripping Australian multi-generationals for the top jobs etc...  now I wonder where the blame really lies for this savage downturn in conditions for young Australian people... and many older ones as well.

Might it have something to do with a complex of legislative/policy drives deliberately designed to advance certain specified groups within society to the detriment of the rest?

You all know me by now - I'd NEVUH scream FEMINIST/GAY/ETHNIC PREFERENCE and so forth along with dopey sheilas only interested in their own wants and not the best good of their children etc, from the rooftops as being the base cause of this deterioration of our nation and its people.....  NEVUH!!... being basically at its root the destruction of GENUINE equal opportunity based on GENUINE need and requirement and ability, in exchange for a bland soup of 'qualified' and  'capable' people holding the good spots as long as they fit into a group handed Accredited Victim Status.....

Poor Fellow - My Country!  Express elevator to hell - all the way down....


What the ferk are you talking about grap…..?

The children born here of the first immigrants from Greece, Italy, Asia or where ever are not Greeks Italians etc. etc they are AUSTRALIAN make no mistake about that, just like you, they may not look like you but they are still aussies just the same as you.

Maybe the first generation of immigrants have found memories of the homeland but the ones born here live and die like aussies no different to you, they may want to go for a holiday for sentimental reasons but Australia is their home.

I take myself as an example, as a teenager I completely rejected my Greek heritage but as I have grown older I have come to embrace it, it’s a part of me and one day I would like to go for a holiday to see the land my folks came from but even though my blood is Greek my mind and my heart are Australian.

As for my kids they learnt some Greek to communicate with the grand parents but if they went to Greece they would have a hard time getting around with the lingo.

In 50 to a hundred years all that will be left will probably be the name, if they don’t change it.



You missed it, didn't you - this has been the case ever since the acceptance of those patriarchal groups... one of the joys of being an old bastard is that you've seen it happen.

Your very examples demonstrate an organised and 'lead' family institution.... something that seems to be sadly lacking in our longer term Australians - for many reasons...


If it was lacking back in those days make no mistake, today the Anglo Saxons families are on par with the patriarchal families of Europe and Asia if for no other reason than the financial slavery bestowed upon us all.


Good point, but the Anglos are still running around sprogging everywhere without discipline... and no real idea of the future....

I used to work security at airports with some Greeks - one of them moon-lighted as security guard for his uncle's house of ill repute... good money and extra tax free ... Greeks know the meaning of a dollar and tax ..... same as Maltese and Italians ....

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Jasin wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 11:47am:
Once again WhiteKnight.
Where does it say that 'Camping' is 'Homelessness'?
Huh

I'll  be living in a small Tent soon, via my Ute - again.
My time here is soon over and time to move on again.
In a way, I can't wait.
I'm heading further south.

I remember when I lived in my vehicle when I lived in Melbourne too, many years ago.
There I was, working in a Backpacker Hostel, looking after 'shoestring' budget travellers, while living in the old 'hanger' on the Yarra near the heliport. For a 'fraction' of the cost that it would cost for me to stay in a Backpacker Hostel.
$126 month for car-space to park vehicle for sleep, etc.
$40 a month for Swanston St Baths - keep hygienic, laps.
$100 a week for food: always 'eat out'.
...then it was also 'sleeping' at Box Hill TAFE carpark while doing study there as well.

I loved the lifestyle. The 'Freedom' to roam the wilds, rather than be cooped up in the Castle like a battery-hen. Gobble Gobble.

So if these 'home-less' people choose to live in environments that are both not 'suitable' and 'supportive' of their 'life-style', then they deserve every hardship they encounter!  Roll Eyes

You want to live in a Tent? Then go live where Tents are suitable. Don't go blaming a certain neck of the woods (City) for your 'lack of'.
If you can't live up to being an American?
Then F-orff and go live in Australia (etc)!

There are an enormous amount of areas and places that are both suitable and supportive to living in a Tent or out of a vehicle.

Personally?
These inner-city 'homeless' really do need to be 'kicked out' of the City.
But of course, this would sort the 'Bludgers' from the 'Battlers' ...as the 'Bludgers' would slowly crawl back into the city to play the victim card as usual. While the 'Battlers' would find their 'niche' of success out there from their small world of tent & vehicle.



Kick them out? Why? So you dont have to see them and perchance think about them? How would the students keep up their studies?

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Nice little freight yard in Kenso/Glebe/North Ryde etc - few containers - link up the power lines - leave the toilets and showers open 24/7, maybe pay one $10 an hour to clean them out - provide a few 44 gal drums for heating - sell them bedding from India at mark-up rates - chuck in a bag of rice once a week - charge each one $250 a week plus power cost and water..... coupla beefy guards on the gates in case of any trouble.... then out you go without a razoo.....
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