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freediver wrote on Apr 17 th, 2018 at 12:08pm: So spot and phil have no problem with Muslims calling for the death of people who criticise Islam, so long as there is some vague, unspoken desire to also get the paperwork in order? Do you actually believe cat never called for Rushdie's death? Auggie wrote on Apr 16 th, 2018 at 10:29pm: freediver wrote on Apr 16 th, 2018 at 10:04pm: Auggie wrote on Apr 16 th, 2018 at 10:00pm: freediver wrote on Apr 14 th, 2018 at 3:41pm: So Brian has no problem with Cat Stevens calling for the death of Salman Rushdie. Not just calling for his death, but saying he "must die" for insulting Muhammad - so long as the paperwork is all in order. This is what Islam does to people's morals. It replaces them with mindless obedience to barbaric law. Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14 th, 2018 at 12:57pm: freediver wrote on Apr 14 th, 2018 at 9:24am: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13 th, 2018 at 9:55pm: Quote:At the end of the debate he asked me to imagine if Salman Rushdie was taken to court in Britain and the Jury found him 'not guilty' of any crime – blasphemy or otherwise – and dismissed the case, what I would do. I clearly stated that I would have to accept the decision and fully abide by the law! And that was no joke.[1] [ Source] Funny, how if you read the whole wikipedia article on Yusuf Islam's comments about Rushdie, it appears he was deliberately and provocatively misquoted by Robertson... So you don't have a problem with Cat's views on killing Rushdie? Yusuf? "Cat" no longer exists, it was a made up name anyway, FD. No, I don't have problems with his views. He is entitled to voice them. Afterall, you claim you support Freedom of Speech, now don't you? Do you have a problem with him voicing his opinion? I would have problems if he decided to act on those views, just as I would have problems if you decided to act on your Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. The bit that Brian left out: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13 th, 2018 at 9:55pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 13 th, 2018 at 6:58pm: On 21 February 1989, Yusuf Islam addressed students at Kingston University in London about his conversion to Islam and was asked about the controversy in the Muslim world and the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution. He replied, "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."[4] It's freedom of speech, FD. A person is allowed to voice to their views openly. BR made this very clear. You're twisting his words to make it look as though he 'supports' those actions. BR never said that he supported those actions. Do you think Brian has a problem with Cat's views? Ever heard of the quote: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it?" Is that what Brian said? Can you quote me the text where he explicitly supports the use of violence against those who criticise Islam??
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