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Reply #90 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:44pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:24pm:
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Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
What distinction is there between a hope that a bitch running brothels for ISIS for gets raped with a cactus and a hope that a bitch running brothels for ISIS for gets raped with a cactus, Effendi?


"I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus."

Starts with 'I' and ends in a full stop (not a question mark).

How can it possibly be interpreted in any other way, other than FD hoping a woman is raped?




Yes, but FD is an advocate for Muslim women's rights. Of course he promotes genital mutilation with a cactus.

FD believes in Freeeeedom.


Freediver is a peacelover who believes there is nothing more peaceful than a dead man.


Sure, but he's also a devout believer in female genital mutilation to keep women in their place.
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Reply #91 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:51pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Sure, but he's also a devout believer in female genital mutilation to keep women in their place.


I perceive Freediver is an amateur Gynaecologist who is suffering from tunnel vision.
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Reply #92 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm
 
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.
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Reply #93 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


He'll be devastated.
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Reply #94 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:13pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


You've stopped doing something you love, and the only person affected by that decision is you.

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Reply #95 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:23pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Sure, but he's also a devout believer in female genital mutilation to keep women in their place.


I perceive Freediver is an amateur Gynaecologist who is suffering from tunnel vision.


That makes sense, Forgiven. He's probably into herbalism too, hence the cactus.
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Reply #96 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:28pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


Very true. The turnaround's pretty unprecedented - in pop culture, anyway.

FD's switch was pretty abrupt too. One minute, there he was, chasing Sprint and Yadda around for chastising the Muselman. The next - poof! He's cuddling up to them.

As FD says, he "changed his mind". He's since become an amateur herbal gynaecologist, so anything's possible.
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Reply #97 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:33pm
 
Anyway - the Cat's out of the bag following that comment...

Just goes to show how short-sighted, narrow-minded, and unthinking adherents to certain strains of I-Slam are....

Be nice for once to not enter into personalities in discussion.. you filthy, vermin-ridden, milque-toasting, sycophantic, craw-fishing, jelly-belly-ing, Kaffir-Luving, miscreant piss-poor representatives of a fair discussion in a democratic society ....

Did I miss anyone there?  My apologies if I left anyone out...
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Reply #98 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


He'll be devastated.
There's loads of people who think like me aussie. We all add up. He sure doesn't fill the big venues like he used to. I couldn't think of anything worse than listening to songs about Islam. I'd rather read your posts and that's saying something.
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Reply #99 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:40pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


Very true. The turnaround's pretty unprecedented - in pop culture, anyway.

FD's switch was pretty abrupt too. One minute, there he was, chasing Sprint and Yadda around for chastising the Muselman. The next - poof! He's cuddling up to them.

As FD says, he "changed his mind". He's since become an amateur herbal gynaecologist, so anything's possible.
Even you must admit Karnal that it's a hell of a leap from Peace Train to asking for the death of a person who insulted his religion. That's like Mother Teresa starring in a porno.
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Reply #100 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:47pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


Very true. The turnaround's pretty unprecedented - in pop culture, anyway.

FD's switch was pretty abrupt too. One minute, there he was, chasing Sprint and Yadda around for chastising the Muselman. The next - poof! He's cuddling up to them.

As FD says, he "changed his mind". He's since become an amateur herbal gynaecologist, so anything's possible.
Even you must admit Karnal that it's a hell of a leap from Peace Train to asking for the death of a person who insulted his religion. That's like Mother Teresa starring in a porno.


I do admit it. I've been fervently admitting it for the entire thread. It's the low point in a career that produced some powerful, enchanting music.

Mind you, Stevens' departure from music was another. Abandoning his entire career because some imam says music's unIslamic is the height of brainwashing. Besides, Sufi musicians have been creating great music in Asia for hundreds of years. In India, blind Muslim singers are recognised as the best in their art form.

If religion doesn't encourage independent thought, it's not true religion.
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Reply #101 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:49pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


He'll be devastated.
There's loads of people who think like me aussie. We all add up. He sure doesn't fill the big venues like he used to. I couldn't think of anything worse than listening to songs about Islam. I'd rather read your posts and that's saying something.


Yeah, he's suffering.

"Back in Australia after a 36 year absence Yusuf walked out to a capacity crowd at Perth's Challenge Stadium to begin his Australian tour."

"Cat Stevens, the singer-songwriter responsible for some of the ... which garners a huge roar of approval from the audience and quickly transforms the almost 14,000-strong crowd into one giant, unified singalong."

"The capacity crowd at the BEC were certainly pleased he was let in. The uncanny coincidence of a lunar eclipse during last night's show was lost on no one, with one fan asking, “have you seen the moon?” To which Islam replied, “have you seen the moon? It's a real one!” He teased fans with frequent ... "

" Yusef Cat Stevens is a living genius. It was no more evident than last night, when the man behind ALL those songs stepped out on the #Perth Arena stage to give the capacity crowd an almost three hour cavalcade of hits, with the odd new tune thrown in for good measure."

"Because the emotion in the capacity crowd was pure joy. Songs like “Trouble”, “Father and Son”, and “Moonshadow” got people to stand up from their seats in applause, while main set closer “Peace Train” found the fans joining in the trademark handclaps."

"His string of hits from the 1970s was certainly enough to attract a capacity crowd of Cat Stevens fans to Stockholm's Hovet in hopes that Yusuf could recall some of the magic that had attracted them to his music so many decades ago."

"Now going by the name Yusuf Islam, the British folk, pop and rock singer-songwriter will play to a practically sold-out crowd of thousands at TSB Bowl of Brooklands on Saturday night.

"Cheap and cheerful passes for the 15,000-capacity venue were snapped up within a week of going on sale, leaving available only deluxe packages with a hefty price tag."


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Reply #102 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


He'll be devastated.
There's loads of people who think like me aussie. We all add up. He sure doesn't fill the big venues like he used to. I couldn't think of anything worse than listening to songs about Islam. I'd rather read your posts and that's saying something.


Yeah, he's suffering.

"Back in Australia after a 36 year absence Yusuf walked out to a capacity crowd at Perth's Challenge Stadium to begin his Australian tour."

"Cat Stevens, the singer-songwriter responsible for some of the ... which garners a huge roar of approval from the audience and quickly transforms the almost 14,000-strong crowd into one giant, unified singalong."

"The capacity crowd at the BEC were certainly pleased he was let in. The uncanny coincidence of a lunar eclipse during last night's show was lost on no one, with one fan asking, “have you seen the moon?” To which Islam replied, “have you seen the moon? It's a real one!” He teased fans with frequent ... "

" Yusef Cat Stevens is a living genius. It was no more evident than last night, when the man behind ALL those songs stepped out on the #Perth Arena stage to give the capacity crowd an almost three hour cavalcade of hits, with the odd new tune thrown in for good measure."

"Because the emotion in the capacity crowd was pure joy. Songs like “Trouble”, “Father and Son”, and “Moonshadow” got people to stand up from their seats in applause, while main set closer “Peace Train” found the fans joining in the trademark handclaps."

"His string of hits from the 1970s was certainly enough to attract a capacity crowd of Cat Stevens fans to Stockholm's Hovet in hopes that Yusuf could recall some of the magic that had attracted them to his music so many decades ago."

"Now going by the name Yusuf Islam, the British folk, pop and rock singer-songwriter will play to a practically sold-out crowd of thousands at TSB Bowl of Brooklands on Saturday night.

"Cheap and cheerful passes for the 15,000-capacity venue were snapped up within a week of going on sale, leaving available only deluxe packages with a hefty price tag."


14,000 people venue????  Grin Grin Grin Most of the crowd were probably Muslims. That's small crowd for a big name like him.
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Reply #103 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


Very true. The turnaround's pretty unprecedented - in pop culture, anyway.

FD's switch was pretty abrupt too. One minute, there he was, chasing Sprint and Yadda around for chastising the Muselman. The next - poof! He's cuddling up to them.

As FD says, he "changed his mind". He's since become an amateur herbal gynaecologist, so anything's possible.
Even you must admit Karnal that it's a hell of a leap from Peace Train to asking for the death of a person who insulted his religion. That's like Mother Teresa starring in a porno.


I do admit it. I've been fervently admitting it for the entire thread. It's the low point in a career that produced some powerful, enchanting music.

Mind you, Stevens' departure from music was another. Abandoning his entire career because some imam says music's unIslamic is the height of brainwashing. Besides, Sufi musicians have been creating great music in Asia for hundreds of years. In India, blind Muslim singers are recognised as the best in their art form.

If religion doesn't encourage independent thought, it's not true religion.


Cat went back to music - years ago. He writes and performs both religious and non-religious songs. So he's obviously changed his mind on the whole ban on music thing. Perhaps he's also changed him mind on killing Salman?
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Reply #104 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
I used to love listening to Cat Stevens. Every song was about peace , love and making the world better. Calling for Rushdie's death just blew it all out of the water. He contradicted himself in front of the world. I won't listen to anything from Cat now.


He'll be devastated.
There's loads of people who think like me aussie. We all add up. He sure doesn't fill the big venues like he used to. I couldn't think of anything worse than listening to songs about Islam. I'd rather read your posts and that's saying something.


Yeah, he's suffering.

"Back in Australia after a 36 year absence Yusuf walked out to a capacity crowd at Perth's Challenge Stadium to begin his Australian tour."

"Cat Stevens, the singer-songwriter responsible for some of the ... which garners a huge roar of approval from the audience and quickly transforms the almost 14,000-strong crowd into one giant, unified singalong."

"The capacity crowd at the BEC were certainly pleased he was let in. The uncanny coincidence of a lunar eclipse during last night's show was lost on no one, with one fan asking, “have you seen the moon?” To which Islam replied, “have you seen the moon? It's a real one!” He teased fans with frequent ... "

" Yusef Cat Stevens is a living genius. It was no more evident than last night, when the man behind ALL those songs stepped out on the #Perth Arena stage to give the capacity crowd an almost three hour cavalcade of hits, with the odd new tune thrown in for good measure."

"Because the emotion in the capacity crowd was pure joy. Songs like “Trouble”, “Father and Son”, and “Moonshadow” got people to stand up from their seats in applause, while main set closer “Peace Train” found the fans joining in the trademark handclaps."

"His string of hits from the 1970s was certainly enough to attract a capacity crowd of Cat Stevens fans to Stockholm's Hovet in hopes that Yusuf could recall some of the magic that had attracted them to his music so many decades ago."

"Now going by the name Yusuf Islam, the British folk, pop and rock singer-songwriter will play to a practically sold-out crowd of thousands at TSB Bowl of Brooklands on Saturday night.

"Cheap and cheerful passes for the 15,000-capacity venue were snapped up within a week of going on sale, leaving available only deluxe packages with a hefty price tag."


14,000 people venue????  Grin Grin Grin Most of the crowd were probably Muslims. That's small crowd for a big name like him.


He was playing venues half that size in the '70s.

His audience has got larger - not smaller.

Burn your 8-track cartridges if you must, but it won't bother the Cat none.

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