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Cat Stevens vs Salman Rushdie
Apr 14th, 2018 at 3:41pm
 
So Brian has no problem with Cat Stevens calling for the death of Salman Rushdie. Not just calling for his death, but saying he "must die" for insulting Muhammad - so long as the paperwork is all in order. This is what Islam does to people's morals. It replaces them with mindless obedience to barbaric law.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:24am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 9:55pm:
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At the end of the debate he asked me to imagine if Salman Rushdie was taken to court in Britain and the Jury found him 'not guilty' of any crime – blasphemy or otherwise – and dismissed the case, what I would do. I clearly stated that I would have to accept the decision and fully abide by the law! And that was no joke.[1]

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Funny, how if you read the whole wikipedia article on Yusuf Islam's comments about Rushdie, it appears he was deliberately and provocatively misquoted by Robertson...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So you don't have a problem with Cat's views on killing Rushdie?


Yusuf?  "Cat" no longer exists, it was a made up name anyway, FD.

No, I don't have problems with his views.  He is entitled to voice them.  Afterall, you claim you support Freedom of Speech, now don't you?  Do you have a problem with him voicing his opinion?

I would have problems if he decided to act on those views, just as I would have problems if you decided to act on your Islamophobia.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


The bit that Brian left out:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
On 21 February 1989, Yusuf Islam addressed students at Kingston University in London about his conversion to Islam and was asked about the controversy in the Muslim world and the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution. He replied, "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."[4]


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Reply #1 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 3:46pm
 
Yeah
But bwyannnnnnnn is an apologist, sychophant, sympathizer, traitor to Australia and the human race.

Of course he will delete, adjust, modify, and otherwise twist anything in an attempt to make this sick vile CULT appear less sick and vile than it is.

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Muchdedhed was a sociopath, murdering, self confessed peodophile, nutcase from hell.
The devil's spawn put on Earth to propogate evil and the devil's word.
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Reply #2 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 6:11pm
 
Religion of peace, innit?  And will rule the world in peace when there are no more Infidels...
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Reply #3 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 6:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

So Brian has no problem with Cat Stevens calling for the death of Salman Rushdie.



Brian is simply expressing an opinion, FD.

Brian is simply expressing,         that when moslems declare that they have every intention of killing people who offend their 'faith',
it is OK,
with Brian.


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FD,

I'm sure that the British government would call your criticism of Brian's views as bordering on 'incitement to violence'.

After all, Brian was merely defending the right of the moslem, to practice his religion, in the way in which the moslem chooses to do so.

You bigot, FD!


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By Jacob on Apr 13, 2018 01:25 pm

Do you utter “hate speech”?


If you do, you’ll probably be like Mark Zuckerberg, who couldn’t quite define what it is, but stands by the principle that he hates “hate speech” nonetheless.

At his hearing, it was agreed that incitement to violence        is hate speech, but even here I would disagree.

Incitement to violence is incitement to violence.

Antifa uses Facebook and Twitter to list names and places of violent protests.

They tell their members what sort of weapons to bring and how best to conceal their identities.



If incitement to violence is hate speech, then why is this allowed?




Next, mention was made of human trafficking as an example of things that social media companies could and should be clamping down on as being hate speech.

Again,        this isn’t hate speech,        it’s the selling and purchasing of human bodies.

It’s not hate speech.

Zuckerberg stumbled and sweated, and the best he could proclaim was that he felt it was his duty to create spaces where people felt safe (without realizing that everything is relative and no one feels the same degrees of safety in any one environment or by hearing the exact same words spoken). .....

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/do-you-utter-hate-speech


QUESTION;
If a person informs me claims that, the words which i have just spoken, offends their sensibilities.....
.....have i committed a 'hate speech' crime ???

i.e.
By expressing myself, within their range of hearing [or on an online forum] ?

Well apparently, according to many 'liberal' minds, i have!!!



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Meanwhile, the British state still doesn't seem to know how to deal with

this completely lawful behaviour, on the part of the followers of ISLAM living in the UK.

[n.b. the followers of ISLAM, in the UK, are being taught, BY THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS LEADERS, that this behaviour, IS COMPLETELY LAWFUL, TO MOSLEMS]....


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By Robert Spencer on
Apr 13, 2018


UK: Muslim abducted 12-year-old girl to be repeatedly gang-raped by “pack of ravenous wolves”




Why does this keep happening?




One survivor of a Muslim rape gang in the UK said that her rapists would quote Quran to her,

and believed their actions justified by Islam.

Sexual assault occurs in all cultures, but only in Islam does it have divine sanction.

The Qur’an teaches that Infidel women can be lawfully taken for sexual use (cf. its allowance for a man to take “captives of the right hand,” 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30)......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/uk-muslim-abducted-12-year-old-girl-to-be-rep...

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Reply #4 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:03pm
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
Brian would you be happy to see Rushdie's head on the chopping block, so long as the paperwork was all in order?
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Reply #6 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:17pm
 
Brian thinks calling for someones murder is an opinion.
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Reply #7 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:32pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:17pm:
Brian thinks calling for someones murder is an opinion.


Bwyannnnnnnn not has no capacity to THINK

That requires a basic level of intelligence

Which he has never, in any thread, demonstrated

All he does is tsk, tsk
Post the same tired old pro muzzo retort
And prove to us that he is a dunderheaded muzzo apologist
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Reply #8 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
Bwian has no pwoblem for Muslims calling to kill the infidel - free speech.

But should anyone merely question the benefits of Islam - ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!! PERSECUTION!!!!! INCITEMENT!!!!! EYEROLLING!!!!

What a friikken stupid prat.

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Reply #9 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
Brian thinks he is so much cleverer than everyone else that he doesn't even have to engage his brain.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 9:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 7:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:53pm:
I really do feel sorry for them, Brian. I wonder why they bother.

Such a bore.


Yes, he, like all the Islamophobes are boring, Karnal.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


I know. They just put me to sleep, Brian. Why do you think they bother?

Yawn.


I have no idea.  They are wasting their time.  I am on automatic when I answer them.  If they actually produced an argument worth answering, I would.   Roll Eyes


Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Funny, a lot of other Australians hold similar opinions to mine.  Surely we all cannot be simply "making up" our opinions?   Tsk, tsk, it appears to me that only person "making up" their opinions is you.  Mine are based on several thousand years of philosophy and thinking, what are yours based on, except your prejudice and hatred?    Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
Geoffrey Robertson the great human right barrister was on Conversations with Richard Fidler the other day and he mentioned the Hypothetical where Cat Stevens called for Rushdie's death.

He said something to the effect that although later Stevens claimed it was a joke, there was no doubt in his mind it was totally serious.

Stevens should have been arrested while the cameras were still rolling.
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Reply #11 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
Odd....how about someone calling for the killing of every Muslim Man, Woman and Child.  Arrested?
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Reply #12 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:56pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:17pm:
Brian thinks calling for someones murder is an opinion.


So does FD - if they're tinted.
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Reply #13 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:57pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Odd....how about someone calling for the killing of every Muslim Man, Woman and Child.  Arrested?


How about calling for a tinted Australian radio host who made a Twitter comment about remembering refugee camps to be executed?

FD says this type deserves everything they get.
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Reply #14 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:59pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:55pm:
Odd....how about someone calling for the killing of every Muslim Man, Woman and Child.  Arrested?


How about calling for a tinted Australian radio host to be executed?


Ban them?
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