A ridiculously simple question: how does the US have any sort of moral credibility in demanding states like North Korea and Iran to abandon their nuclear weapons program - given that the US has around 4000 warheads, and no intention of giving them up?

A couple of follow up questions:

1. How can anyone blame North Korea for pursuing nuclear weapons when said nuclear armed nation continues to base a significant armed presence around them, and conduct provocative war games along their coastline?

2. How can Iran be blamed for (allegedly) wanting to obtain nuclear weapons when there is a hostile nuclear armed hegemon right on their doorstep?

And finally, most perplexing of all, why are these questions almost entirely absent from the MSM coverage of the US's policy vis Iran and North Korea?

Don't worry gandalf once the oligarchy install their central banks in NK, Russia, Syria, China and Iran we'll all be bossom buddies again.

Gandalf - the whole nuclear situation in the world is insane -

these weapons should have been banned 70 years ago.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 9:25pm:




The problem is you can't ban them, completely. Now that they have been unleashed someone will always try to have them.

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:09am:


I'm blaming the US for demanding that no one else develop nuclear weapons - while they have no intention of relinquishing their 4000-strong arsenal.

I don't blame any state for attempting to create a deterrence capability against a nuclear armed superpower breathing down their neck. And you cannot possibly tell me with a straight face either Iran or North Korea can't legitimately feel existentially threatened by this nuclear armed superpower.

Try and be rational for once here Baron - who do you see as the greater problem re. nuclear proliferation: the superpower with 4000 nuclear warheads who is the only country on earth to have ever used nuclear weapons in war, and who has no intention of giving them up - or the states attempting to protect themselves from this aggressive superpower by developing their own nuclear deterrence capability?

Do you at least concede that while-ever nuclear armed states exist, other states will feel they need to arm themselves too?

Jesus, how can you possibly propose a non-proliferation regime while at the same time arguing that its perfectly fine for all the superpowers to retain their nuclear weapons?? It won't work!!

The USA should not dismantle its weapons by spurious agreement with dictatorships and theocracies. In the his posts so far, Gandalf has clearly stated whose side he is on.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:45pm:


I am being rational with this it's difficult dealing with people who have a profound level of ignorance when it come to the nuclear non proliferation treaty.

Iran and North Korea ratified the NPT to get nuclear technology from countries that have ratified the NPT, this treaty makes it clear they cannot make nuclear weapons both Iran and the Norks have violated this treaty and you support these rogue states violating this treaty.

Can you cite where the USA demands nobody else develops nuclear weapons?

Have the US ever said anything about India, Pakistan and Israel making nuclear weapons, have any of these countries ratified the NPT treaty?

Can you tell us why you support Iran and the Norks violating the NPT?

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 5:24pm:


Way to miss the point Gordon.

Do you see a problem with achieving non-proliferation if certain nations (doesn't matter who) get to say, our arsenals are completely off limits, but everyone else is not allowed to have them?