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Apr 8th, 2018 at 1:34pm
 
First Nation People are not " aboriginal " , ( not original ) they are original .

the british like to use words to obfuscate and take / steal title/land off original peoples ..



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5568797/The-sacred-Aboriginal-mountains-...

So much for 'Welcome to Country!' How Aborigines are campaigning to stop tourists from visiting Australia's most spectacular mountains for 'cultural reasons' - after successfully banning climbers from Uluru



Uluru, previously known as Ayers Rock, will close to all climbers in October 2019
Climbing of several other sites sacred to Aborigines could eventually be banned
Mt Warning in NSW and St Mary Peak in South Australia may be made off-limits
Tourists are asked not to climb on parts of Queensland's Glass House Mountains
Mt Yengo in NSW is another site Aboriginal people would prefer was not climbed




By Stephen Gibbs for Daily Mail Australia

PUBLISHED: 11:16 AEST, 8 April 2018 | UPDATED: 11:16 AEST, 8 April 2018





Mount Warning is the first place in Australia to catch the morning sunlight and it could be the next Aboriginal sacred site where climbing is banned.

Aboriginal elders are pushing for more sacred sites across the country to be closed to climbers following the historic ban on scaling Uluru.

Mountains in several Australian states which are popular with bushwalkers and climbers may one day join the iconic rock on the banned list.

Mount Warning in the Northern Rivers region of New South Wales is one such summit and St Mary Peak in South Australia's spectacular Flinders Ranges is another.


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Tourism operators believe the ban on climbing Uluru could be extended to other sacred sites which local indigenous people have asked visitors not to climb because of their beliefs

...
For the traditional owners, peaks such as Mount Tibrogargan (pictured) are not summits to be conquered 'but representations of their great cultural heritage and their place in this land'

...
Wilpena Pound (pictured) in South Australia's mighty Flinders Ranges features St Mary Peak, which the local indigenous people have stated they would prefer tourists did not climb

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The NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service website states Mount Warning (pictured) is a place of spiritual significance to the Bundjalung people, who do not want visitors to climb it

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'We've talked about it for so long and now we're able to close the climb': Uluru traditional owner chairman Sammy Wilson's thoughts when the climbing ban was announced last year

Indigenous people would also prefer Mount Yengo in the NSW Hunter Valley and parts of the Glass House Mountains in Queensland were not climbed.

There are no official moves yet to stop climbing those peaks but traditional owners have requested their beliefs be shown more respect and signs spelling out their wishes have been placed at some sites. 

Any further bans on popular climbing sites could have a serious impact on tourism operators and other small business owners.


Last year it was decided that climbing the 348m high Uluru, previously known as Ayers Rock, would be banned from October 2019.

Traditional owners had for decades asked tourists not to climb the monolith due to its cultural significance.

Calls to ban climbing at other sites have spread.

Mount Warning, near Murwillumbah, is known to the local indigenous Bundjalung people as Wollumbin and they have asked climbers not to walk up its 1,156m peak.

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'We've talked about it for so long and now we're able to close the climb': Uluru traditional owner chairman Sammy Wilson's thoughts when the climbing ban was announced last year

...
Uluru is the world's largest monolith; the sandstone rock formation in the southern part of the Northern Territory is 335km south-west of Alice Springs, the nearest large town

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Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 3:00pm
 
Racism and government-imposed sacred cows, wrapped in the woolly fuzz of political correctness

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/racism-government-imposed-sacred-cows-wrapped-...

White people will be banned from Uluru. All non-aborigines will be, and presumably those aborigines who are from the wrong tribal group. Clearly, this is racist. Chances are, women won’t be allowed up there either, even if they have the correct skin colour. Even more concerning is that this is justified on spiritual grounds. One group’s spiritual views are so much more important than everyone else’s that the government has enshrined them in legislation so that our most iconic natural monument can be fenced off.

This is not about the legitimacy of the spiritual views of aboriginal people. This is about imposing those views on people who do not share them, and doing so on racist lines. You don’t need to impose your religious beliefs on other people as a test of whether they are sufficiently respected, unless you are a terrorist, or apparently, aboriginal. It is no less absurd than putting a fence around Bondi beach and only allowing white Christians to go for a swim. The rest of you can come and visit and stay in our hotels, but you can only take photos from a respectful distance. We get really upset if you make a big deal about it, so please politely acknowledge our spiritual rights.

Our beaches, our national parks, our oceans, our rivers, these are all public property to be shared for the enjoyment of all. They are important to all Australians, not just a select few. They have spiritual significance to all sorts of people. They are not to be sold off to the loudest group of racist, religious zealots, no matter how sympathetic or politically correct their zealotry is. Imagine, for a moment, that a new cult sprung up and declared that climbing Uluru was a religious imperative. Whose religious views would the government decide are more important? Why would it take a cult with white people in it to bring home the absurdity of the situation? If you don't think white people also tend to invent sacred cows and impose them on other races, ask yourself what is inherently wrong with Japanese people eating whale meat from wild caught, sustainably harvested minke whales that are present in huge numbers in international waters.





The broader issue here is what it means to be Australian and what our values are. Are we moving to a post racial society where race truly does not matter and we are all truly equal? Or are we moving towards a re-racialised society that forever enshrines racism, superstition and sexism in petty, discriminatory laws? Should Aborigines be treated as equals? If they are our equals, can their spiritual views be more important than ours? Are their spiritual views more important than our right to climb Uluru? Is the historical suffering of their ancestors of more import than the suffering endured by everyone else’s?

You cannot have this both ways. Either aborigines are fully fledged citizens with equal rights, equal expectations and equal responsibilities, or they are tribal, stone age voodoo mongers incapable of surviving emotionally in modern society (or managing a corporation) and who must be fenced off in some kind of special zoo for the protection of their delicate, ancient spiritual beliefs. Unfortunately the recent trend appears to be away from equality, and Uluru is just the tip of the iceberg. Our state and federal governments are enshrining in our legislation the soft bigotry of low expectations and the learned helplessness that has institutionalised intergenerational poverty and suffering. Real suffering that a fence around Uluru will do nothing to fix.

An artist's impression of the fencing and signage to be installed at Uluru

Unlike everyone else, Aborigines are not expected to carry their spiritual views into the 21st century as personal baggage to be celebrated with those who share it, but not thrust upon others at every opportunity. Instead we must reverse the hard-won separation of church and state and officially recognise the spiritual views of Aborigines at every opportunity. This started with lip service, and has taken us to a fence around Uluru. Where will it take us if we continue to feed this monster?

Aborigines are not even expected to manage their own finances. We have constantly evolving boards to hand out government money on their behalf. These boards are not elected. They inevitably turn corrupt, and are then reinvented and replaced with ‘trusted’ aboriginal leaders that everyone likes and that our politicians approve of. We have remote communities that are economically unviable, except for government handouts. Many of these communities are miniature communist states where the Aborigines who supposedly own the land cannot be trusted to purchase and manage their own piece of it. Inevitably, they live in squalor. The development of the land, recognised as necessary by those within and without, proceeds at a pace and efficiency you would expect from a communist regime (the Russian communist juggernaut that for many decades threatened US hegemony was created by literally forcing people out of rural communities and into the factories).

We took a wrong turn somewhere. We were heading in a straight line away from our racist, bigoted, sexist, imperialist past. Then we turned around, saw what was behind us, and asked ourselves “how c
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Reply #2 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 3:22pm
 
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Reply #3 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 10:02pm
 
Bullshit....... no more sacred to them than to anyone else.  Mt Warning is just a nice place to be at dawn - big deal.  EVERYONE would cop a dose of spirituality about that.

Not a sacred site - just  and interesting and nice spot, and they never had  first day of Spring or whatever there, like, say Stonehenge.

Of course they mean something to this nation for EVERYBODY.

Time for this nation to start saying NO to all this bullshit.
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Reply #4 - Apr 8th, 2018 at 11:05pm
 
Quote:

"Uluru, previously known as Ayers Rock, will close to all climbers in October 2019".

Whoooaaaa! Hold it right THERE, Bucko!

"... previously known as Ayers Rock" ~ my arse!

It's still known as Ayers Rock to people not of Aboriginal descent.



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Reply #5 - Apr 9th, 2018 at 12:56am
 
We(my family) have been given permission to climb Mt Warning by an elder after, would you believe, picking him up hitchhiking while my wife was getting youngest son's hours up on his Ls. Even though it's not kosher that a woman should climb it.
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2018 at 6:08am
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 9th, 2018 at 12:56am:
We(my family) have been given permission to climb Mt Warning by an elder after, would you believe, picking him up hitchhiking while my wife was getting youngest son's hours up on his Ls. Even though it's not kosher that a woman should climb it.


Goes to show the reality, no?  Your average Aboriginal is happy to share - it's all these 'activists' who are causing all the trouble and demanding stuff without reason.

As I said - the spiritual element is felt by anyone who does the journey...

Will the Moon Dancers still be leaping and jumping at Full Moon, while naked?  Or are they excluded,too?

And of course, Byron Bay is a sacred site, too...

Last Nations People say YOU hands off!
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Reply #7 - Apr 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 8th, 2018 at 1:34pm:
First Nation People are not " aboriginal " , ( not original ) they are original .

the british like to use words to obfuscate and take / steal title/land off original peoples ..



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5568797/The-sacred-Aboriginal-mountains-...

So much for 'Welcome to Country!' How Aborigines are campaigning to stop tourists from visiting Australia's most spectacular mountains for 'cultural reasons' - after successfully banning climbers from Uluru



Uluru, previously known as Ayers Rock, will close to all climbers in October 2019
Climbing of several other sites sacred to Aborigines could eventually be banned
Mt Warning in NSW and St Mary Peak in South Australia may be made off-limits
Tourists are asked not to climb on parts of Queensland's Glass House Mountains
Mt Yengo in NSW is another site Aboriginal people would prefer was not climbed




By Stephen Gibbs for Daily Mail Australia

PUBLISHED: 11:16 AEST, 8 April 2018 | UPDATED: 11:16 AEST, 8 April 2018





Mount Warning is the first place in Australia to catch the morning sunlight and it could be the next Aboriginal sacred site where climbing is banned.

Aboriginal elders are pushing for more sacred sites across the country to be closed to climbers following the historic ban on scaling Uluru.

Mountains in several Australian states which are popular with bushwalkers and climbers may one day join the iconic rock on the banned list.

Mount Warning in the Northern Rivers region of New South Wales is one such summit and St Mary Peak in South Australia's spectacular Flinders Ranges is another.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/01/4AC74FE500000578-5568797-Tourism...
Tourism operators believe the ban on climbing Uluru could be extended to other sacred sites which local indigenous people have asked visitors not to climb because of their beliefs

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/02/4AC7500100000578-5568797-For_the...
For the traditional owners, peaks such as Mount Tibrogargan (pictured) are not summits to be conquered 'but representations of their great cultural heritage and their place in this land'

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/02/4AD5B8A800000578-5568797-image-a...
Wilpena Pound (pictured) in South Australia's mighty Flinders Ranges features St Mary Peak, which the local indigenous people have stated they would prefer tourists did not climb

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/04/4AD5EA2B00000578-5568797-image-a...
The NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service website states Mount Warning (pictured) is a place of spiritual significance to the Bundjalung people, who do not want visitors to climb it

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/01/4AC74FF100000578-5568797-_We_ve_...
'We've talked about it for so long and now we're able to close the climb': Uluru traditional owner chairman Sammy Wilson's thoughts when the climbing ban was announced last year

Indigenous people would also prefer Mount Yengo in the NSW Hunter Valley and parts of the Glass House Mountains in Queensland were not climbed.

There are no official moves yet to stop climbing those peaks but traditional owners have requested their beliefs be shown more respect and signs spelling out their wishes have been placed at some sites. 

Any further bans on popular climbing sites could have a serious impact on tourism operators and other small business owners.


Last year it was decided that climbing the 348m high Uluru, previously known as Ayers Rock, would be banned from October 2019.

Traditional owners had for decades asked tourists not to climb the monolith due to its cultural significance.

Calls to ban climbing at other sites have spread.

Mount Warning, near Murwillumbah, is known to the local indigenous Bundjalung people as Wollumbin and they have asked climbers not to walk up its 1,156m peak.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/01/4AC2019800000578-5568797-Mount_B...
'We've talked about it for so long and now we're able to close the climb': Uluru traditional owner chairman Sammy Wilson's thoughts when the climbing ban was announced last year

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/05/02/4AC74FFD00000578-5568797-Uluru_i...
Uluru is the world's largest monolith; the sandstone rock formation in the southern part of the Northern Territory is 335km south-west of Alice Springs, the nearest large town



The obfuscation regarding names is entirely in the hands of Aboriginals.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/nitv-news/article/2018/03/02/pat-dodson-co-chair-new...

Start at Uluru ..... then it's open slather ey?
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Reply #8 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 12:35am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8th, 2018 at 11:05pm:
Quote:

"Uluru, previously known as Ayers Rock, will close to all climbers in October 2019".

Whoooaaaa! Hold it right THERE, Bucko!

"... previously known as Ayers Rock" ~ my arse!

It's still known as Ayers Rock to people not of Aboriginal descent.





that rock is and has been known as ULURU way before some white fellow happened upon it ..

don't be so preposterous , yet either way

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Reply #9 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 12:40am
 
show some respect ye godless heathens , yet either way

see you at the billabong



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Reply #10 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am
 
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.
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Reply #11 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 6:24am
 

'First COMRADES, we'll get cultural control of all of our sacred lands surrounding Uluru
then we'll make the claim for all of our land around Martin Place, in Sydney.'



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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:10am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 12:40am:
show some respect ye godless heathens , yet either way

see you at the billabong



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What does the Ananda have to do with Aboriginality?

This bloke comes from Cherbourg what's his connection to the Blue Mountains/Katoomba.

Nil.

Cashing in methinks.
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Reply #13 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:27am
 
you admit you are ignorant then point to cashing in ..

noted ,

we continue

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5596697/Aboriginal-land-rights-protester...

'Sam Armytage, we still want an apology!' Angry Aboriginal protesters hijack Sunrise's Commonwealth Games broadcast after controversial segment about adoption of indigenous kids



Aboriginal protesters staged demonstration during Sunrise segment on Tuesday
They demanded host Sam Armytage apologise for panel discussion on adoption
Demonstrators held signs and chanted about land rights and Indigenous issues
Armytage and co-host David Koch struggled to be heard over the noisy protest
Sunrise was slammed for using generic backdrop to hide similar protest in March
Protesters were outraged by a discussion about Aboriginal adoption on the show




By Sam Duncan For Daily Mail Australia

PUBLISHED: 08:57 AEST, 10 April 2018 | UPDATED: 10:21 AEST, 10 April 2018





A beach-side television broadcast has been interrupted by Aboriginal land rights protesters.

The large crowd of about 50 rowdy demonstrators chanted, waved flags and hurled abuse during a Sunrise segment being filmed on the Gold Coast.

Some of the protesters attacked host Sam Armytage, demanding she apologise for her controversial adoption discussion last month.



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Sam Armytage (pictured, left) and David Koch (pictured, right) had their Sunrise segment interrupted by angry Aboriginal protesters on Tuesday morning

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The group of demonstrators chanted, waved flags and hurled abuse during a Sunrise segment being filmed on the Gold Coast

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Reply #14 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

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Reply #15 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 7:14pm
 
Ub Quote:
.  anything you have " given " is STOLEN *

denying that fact will never hide the truth .
   


Not stolen
They were invaded

They had an opportunity to fight off the Invaders
But the primitives has no chance

So they are now nothing but a conquered race of losers.

But at least we let them live

Unlike the true First Australians who were wiped off the face of the Earth by the abbo Invaders

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Reply #16 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:28pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

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WE (as in 'you') never stole anything - we EARNED it.  the common nonsense among Blackophiles and such is throwing around these ridiculous  accusations that somehow we, the ordinary people of today, by simply being here, have somehow stolen something from the Blacks etc...

What utter nonsense.... and we have as much right to use Mt Warning and Ayers Rock as they do.... if it had been 'stolen' they wouldn't have any of it, would they?  Let alone all the freebies they get to get by on.

If they were in their 'native state' and getting by the way they are now - they'd all starve to death.

Let 'em have the right to take a sustainable number of goannas and wildlife to eat and wander around near naked and leave it at that.  If they don't want to go that route - they can STFU and work with everyone else instead of against them, or leave the White Man's cars and roads and everything else behind and go seek their 'own way' on their own and take their chances.

I used to be sympathetic but this crap has lost me.
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Reply #17 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


WE (as in 'you') never stole anything - we EARNED it.  the common nonsense among Blackophiles and such is throwing around these ridiculous  accusations that somehow we, the ordinary people of today, by simply being here, have somehow stolen something from the Blacks etc...

What utter nonsense.... and we have as much right to use Mt Warning and Ayers Rock as they do.... if it had been 'stolen' they wouldn't have any of it, would they?  Let alone all the freebies they get to get by on.

If they were in their 'native state' and getting by the way they are now - they'd all starve to death.

Let 'em have the right to take a sustainable number of goannas and wildlife to eat and wander around near naked and leave it at that.  If they don't want to go that route - they can STFU and work with everyone else instead of against them, or leave the White Man's cars and roads and everything else behind and go seek their 'own way' on their own and take their chances.

I used to be sympathetic but this crap has lost me.



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Couldn't have typed it better myself....although I have never been sympathetic towards them. They have just as much opportunity as I to have a go at life...they just choose not to, so fkkk em.
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Reply #18 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

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WE (as in 'you') never stole anything - we EARNED it. 


oh sure ..

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Reply #19 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:03pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


WE (as in 'you') never stole anything - we EARNED it. 


oh sure ..

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o...



And?  Which one in that photo is the ordinary everyday person of today?
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Reply #20 - Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:15pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 9:03pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


WE (as in 'you') never stole anything - we EARNED it. 


oh sure ..

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o...



And?  Which one in that photo is the ordinary everyday person of today?


yeah sure , you earned it ..

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Reply #21 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:17am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
yeah sure , you earned it ..

https://i.imgur.com/6qmER6b.jpg



On my mother's grave -
I never touched those niqqers.
.... nor do I accept responsibility for the actions of others...

Thank you for coming... try harder next time to find a point of impact...... generalisations, suggestions, assumptions, suppositions and innuendoes simply don't work.
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Reply #22 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:35am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:17am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
yeah sure , you earned it ..

https://i.imgur.com/6qmER6b.jpg



On my mother's grave -
I never touched those niqqers.
.... nor do I accept responsibility for the actions of others...

Thank you for coming... try harder next time to find a point of impact...... generalisations, suggestions, assumptions, suppositions and innuendoes simply don't work.


many blessings grappler ,

do you think anyone is blaming you ?

oh dear I can now see where some of your mania comes from .. no

nobody is blaming you , so you are confused and forgiven..

namaste

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Reply #23 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
But that's the whole problem

We are considered by the abbos as those who did those things
They will not let it go and forgive the transgressions of the past.

You must remember, both sides murdered and committed attrocity on each other.
But do you ever hear about the massacre of white settlers?
Or are they unimportant?

This "MAINTAINING THE RAGE" will do little to help anyone.

And if they tell me to go back to where I'm from again, I'll punch them in the mouth.

I was born here, as were many generations of my family.
We did not come from anywhere, this is my country as much as it is theirs.

My family protected this country inn war
My family and I have contributed in taxes, work and charity
More than most abbos.

We can either learn to live together or one will die out
And there are far more of us , with far more resources , and far more drive than them.
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Reply #24 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm
 
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

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We own the rock, not the Abos. They should put a toilet on top. Common sense.
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Reply #26 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:04pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:35am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:17am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
yeah sure , you earned it ..

https://i.imgur.com/6qmER6b.jpg



On my mother's grave -
I never touched those niqqers.
.... nor do I accept responsibility for the actions of others...

Thank you for coming... try harder next time to find a point of impact...... generalisations, suggestions, assumptions, suppositions and innuendoes simply don't work.


many blessings grappler ,

do you think anyone is blaming you ?

oh dear I can now see where some of your mania comes from .. no

nobody is blaming you , so you are confused and forgiven..

namaste

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You did, Honky, with your retort to my post that I am not responsible for Kaffirs being ill-treated... you then posted photos and challenged that statement in terms that said that my personal comment about me was wrong - meaning I did those things because some guy somewhere remotely of the same colour did them.

You did it, Honky.  And you are not forgiven.  Now mend your ways - it is you who are crazy - not me.  I'm not the one defending the demands and ravings of 3% of the population by inferring that the other 97% owe them something for nothing.  Now that's mania...

"oh sure ..

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o
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Right there, son - you may apologise at will...
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Reply #27 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:05pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

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Oh?  And what are those 'practical reasons'?  Sounds like a load of apologist bullshit to me.  Kaffirs whining about tourists pissing in water holes - where do they piss when they climb the Rock?

It's not called 'a call of nature' for nothing - put in a toilet....

THIS Nation's people say get your hands off it...
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Reply #28 - Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:41pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:35am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 12:17am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
yeah sure , you earned it ..

https://i.imgur.com/6qmER6b.jpg



On my mother's grave -
I never touched those niqqers.
.... nor do I accept responsibility for the actions of others...

Thank you for coming... try harder next time to find a point of impact...... generalisations, suggestions, assumptions, suppositions and innuendoes simply don't work.


many blessings grappler ,

do you think anyone is blaming you ?

oh dear I can now see where some of your mania comes from .. no

nobody is blaming you , so you are confused and forgiven..

namaste

╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯


You did, Honky, with your retort to my post that I am not responsible for Kaffirs being ill-treated... you then posted photos and challenged that statement in terms that said that my personal comment about me was wrong - meaning I did those things because some guy somewhere remotely of the same colour did them.

You did it, Honky.  And you are not forgiven.  Now mend your ways - it is you who are crazy - not me.  I'm not the one defending the demands and ravings of 3% of the population by inferring that the other 97% owe them something for nothing.  Now that's mania...

"oh sure ..

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o
..."


Right there, son - you may apologise at will...



many blessings grappler ,

you said " we earned it "

I posted a factual photo .. end of story .

...

stolen land stolen children stolen wages , murder , rape theft ..

oh yes there is still more work to do , yet all shall come to pass

ye all shall see as much

namaste

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Reply #29 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:32am
 
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many blessings grappler ,

you said " we earned it "

I posted a factual photo .. end of story .

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o...

stolen land stolen children stolen wages , murder , rape theft ..

oh yes there is still more work to do , yet all shall come to pass

ye all shall see as much

namaste

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No - one miniscule part of the story involving one shown White individual and in no way representative of the vast majority of Australians, and far out-weighed by the benefits heaped upon Australian Aboriginals in countless other ways.

Any such events have long been paid for in cash, health benefits, better living conditions, infrastructure, ease of getting around, better food, and so on and so on...

Time to let this mania of the past go and move on.......

Lodging my good self, and the vast majority of Australians, especially nowadays, never guilty of any transgression against any Niqqer here, in with anyone who chained some many years ago, requires an apology from you.  We are NOT guilty or responsible for anything.

Get your mind right, Luke...

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Reply #30 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:38am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:32am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:41pm:
many blessings grappler ,

you said " we earned it "

I posted a factual photo .. end of story .

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o...

stolen land stolen children stolen wages , murder , rape theft ..

oh yes there is still more work to do , yet all shall come to pass

ye all shall see as much

namaste

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No - one miniscule part of the story involving one shown White individual and in no way representative of the vast majority of Australians,


it matters not ,

stolen land murdered people .. this is clear genocide and you know it grappler ,

don't be coy now ..yet either way , beloved being,

...

you may be at peace

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Reply #31 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 5:35am
 
What about equal representation from the white side

Compensation for white settlers murdered, raped and burnt off their land by abbos?

32 billion dollars spent on Abbos in the last year alone
Abbstudy
Free abbo housing
Free abbo only medical centres
Free abbo only child care
More unemployment benefits than whites
First on the list for free housing
Special dispensation for requirements for the dole

Now working for special consideration in law, to stop them being gaoled

When does it end?

How much is too much

When do they start standing on their own two feet?
Rather than being an irrelevant parasitical mob?
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you admit you are ignorant then point to cashing in ..

noted ,

we continue

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5596697/Aboriginal-land-rights-protester...

'Sam Armytage, we still want an apology!' Angry Aboriginal protesters hijack Sunrise's Commonwealth Games broadcast after controversial segment about adoption of indigenous kids



Aboriginal protesters staged demonstration during Sunrise segment on Tuesday
They demanded host Sam Armytage apologise for panel discussion on adoption
Demonstrators held signs and chanted about land rights and Indigenous issues
Armytage and co-host David Koch struggled to be heard over the noisy protest
Sunrise was slammed for using generic backdrop to hide similar protest in March
Protesters were outraged by a discussion about Aboriginal adoption on the show




By Sam Duncan For Daily Mail Australia

PUBLISHED: 08:57 AEST, 10 April 2018 | UPDATED: 10:21 AEST, 10 April 2018





A beach-side television broadcast has been interrupted by Aboriginal land rights protesters.

The large crowd of about 50 rowdy demonstrators chanted, waved flags and hurled abuse during a Sunrise segment being filmed on the Gold Coast.

Some of the protesters attacked host Sam Armytage, demanding she apologise for her controversial adoption discussion last month.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/10/01/4AFF38D100000578-5596697-image-m...
Sam Armytage (pictured, left) and David Koch (pictured, right) had their Sunrise segment interrupted by angry Aboriginal protesters on Tuesday morning

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/10/00/4AFF176000000578-5596697-The_gro...
The group of demonstrators chanted, waved flags and hurled abuse during a Sunrise segment being filmed on the Gold Coast

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/10/00/4AFF2D0800000578-5596697-image-a...


Yeah cashing in ... & I bet he still gets CentreLink payments.

Aboriginals got an apology ... a Nationally broadcast one from the Prime Minister of the Day.

They have been handed back vast areas that were once cattle stations & granted sole ownership of & access of other large areas that the rest of Australia is effectively locked out of ..... their land rights go beyond the land through intertidal zones, on & beneath the waters.

$33 billion dollars a year is allocated solely to Indigenous issues across the board.

Jobs are advertised that discriminate in favour of Aboriginal applicants.

Nothing is ever enough.

So forgive me for thinking you're barking bs.
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Reply #33 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:34am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 10:30am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 10th, 2018 at 4:53am:
Honestly
Where does it all end?

We give them billions to support them, they waste it on grog and drugs
We allow them the opportunity to make something of their lives , they this it back at us calling us racist
We give them land, they sell it off or refuse to allow us access

Will the time come when a parasitical group of people only allow their like to travel in our country where they allow us?

How long do you think that kind of racism will last before people get back of it?

Too much we have given for nothing

Too many times our aid has been wasted

Too many times we are called racist for trying to help them

The time has come to say Enough is Enough

They need to stand on their own two feet and assimilate or become as irrelevant as the people before them who they destroyed.


anything you have " given " is
STOLEN *


denying that fact will never hide the truth .

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And if we could all pack up & leave .... after restoring the country to pre-colonisation days ...

removing & leveling all infrastructure .....

and I mean everything.

How would these whinging barstards go then?

You are a poor excuse for anything representing enlightenment.  Roll Eyes
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They were 'invaded' in the same way as a Supermarket is opened in your suburb without your permission.
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Reply #35 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

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it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:38am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:32am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 10:41pm:
many blessings grappler ,

you said " we earned it "

I posted a factual photo .. end of story .

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2014-05/30/11/enhanced/webdr05/o...

stolen land stolen children stolen wages , murder , rape theft ..

oh yes there is still more work to do , yet all shall come to pass

ye all shall see as much

namaste

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No - one miniscule part of the story involving one shown White individual and in no way representative of the vast majority of Australians,


it matters not ,

stolen land murdered people .. this is clear genocide and you know it grappler ,

don't be coy now ..yet either way , beloved being,

https://i.imgflip.com/2863vg.jpg

you may be at peace

namaste

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I know you struggle with reason and words, so let me make it clear to you once more.

I did nothing to those people, I have every right to be here and to prosper as well as I can, and under no circumstances will I accept guilt or responsibility for anything that may have happened in the past, and nor will or should mainstream White Australia, which has given these protestors more than they could ever imagine if left to their own devices.

Time to turn off the taps and put them on a five year improvement contract or dole only.

Are you seriously telling the first generation descendants of, say, an Italian or German family, that they 'owe' the Aboriginals for whatever happened in the past?  If we all got compensation for the often dire things that have happened to us in the past, I, for one, would receive billions.

Get used to it, get over it, and get on with living NOW and not in the past.

Aboriginals have a long way to go and confronting White Australia that feeds them is not the way to go.
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Reply #37 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #38 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.
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Reply #39 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #40 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:14am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The point was that the Kaffirs would have done the same in their minority climbing days - and a simple solution was offered - build a few toilets.

No reason to refuse entry because of poor management...... sorry 'bout that.  The 'owners' have to move with the times, no exploit their failure to do so as a grab to take over the joint... would Egypt permit that with the pyramid builders society's ancestors or the Anglican Church give ownership and exclusion rights to the descendants of the builders?  Don't make me laugh.
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Reply #41 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:40am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:14am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The point was that the Kaffirs would have done the same in their minority climbing days - and a simple solution was offered - build a few toilets.

No reason to refuse entry because of poor management...... sorry 'bout that.  The 'owners' have to move with the times, no exploit their failure to do so as a grab to take over the joint... would Egypt permit that with the pyramid builders society's ancestors or the Anglican Church give ownership and exclusion rights to the descendants of the builders?  Don't make me laugh.


They have banned people from climbing the pyramids....Respect mate....Show some!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #42 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:05am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:40am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:14am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The point was that the Kaffirs would have done the same in their minority climbing days - and a simple solution was offered - build a few toilets.

No reason to refuse entry because of poor management...... sorry 'bout that.  The 'owners' have to move with the times, no exploit their failure to do so as a grab to take over the joint... would Egypt permit that with the pyramid builders society's ancestors or the Anglican Church give ownership and exclusion rights to the descendants of the builders?  Don't make me laugh.


They have banned people from climbing the pyramids....Respect mate....Show some!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Respect is mutual - the answers are simple - this is nothing but a disguised grab for total control over a tourist landmark.  It's not as if the Rock is a construct that is ruined by being touched and walked on.... it's big enough to handle it... and none of this changes the fact that it is NOT a 'spiritual centre' for the Aboriginals, and  was nothing more than anyone saying :-  "I think I'll get up there and take a look!  Sounds like fun... wanna come, Fred?"

Utter bullshit... like Mt Warning - they NEVER held ceremonies there.. it was just an interesting place to climb for the chance to do so and for a look at the view....

And this does not alter the issue you've avoided - the Kaffirs poo on the rock too.... they hold ZERO high moral ground here...  utter bullshit.
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Reply #43 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:12am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just about Ayres Rock

You reckon you state facts?

I state some & it's a racist rant Grin Roll Eyes
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Reply #44 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:03pm
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just about Ayres Rock

You reckon you state facts?

I state some & it's a racist rant Grin Roll Eyes


Stereotyping Aboriginal people is a racist rant....Not everyone fits your narrow view of Aboriginal society....There are problems but it will not be fixed by anyone like you!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #45 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile - give 'em a mile and they'll take the bloody lot under 'their' terms.

I say NO!  Learned not one bloody thing from Hitler etc, have we?  The more you give in the more they want and then take until it becomes direct confrontation.

The big question here is why governments are allowing this to happen as if it's just a passing thing..... when the inevitable confrontations is drawing closer by the day...
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Reply #46 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just about Ayres Rock

You reckon you state facts?

I state some & it's a racist rant Grin Roll Eyes


Stereotyping Aboriginal people is a racist rant....Not everyone fits your narrow view of Aboriginal society....There are problems but it will not be fixed by anyone like you!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


and certainly not by Aboriginals the way they are going, either....
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Reply #47 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There is a huge difference here
And a lack of common Sense and intelligence

Did the abbos build Ayres rock? because that's exactly what it is, A ROCK

Did the assemble the rocks to form a structure?

Now
Westminster Abby was built, as were the pyramids
They are testament to man's ingenuity, to his skills, to his advanced mathematics and engineering skills

See the difference?

A big rock vs engineering marvels

But abbos have no respect for anything, just like the housing we give them.

Big rock.............
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I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..
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Reply #49 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:18pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There is a huge difference here
And a lack of common Sense and intelligence

Did the abbos build Ayres rock? because that's exactly what it is, A ROCK

Did the assemble the rocks to form a structure?

Now
Westminster Abby was built, as were the pyramids
They are testament to man's ingenuity, to his skills, to his advanced mathematics and engineering skills

See the difference?

A big rock vs engineering marvels

But abbos have no respect for anything, just like the housing we give them.

Big rock.............


I thought it was about respect and culture....Something you have no idea about....Aboriginal people are not all ass holes like you mate???

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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Who are Aboriginals to decide that Australian history and culture means nothing and should be ignored.???  YOUR and THEIR ignorance and racism and intolerance are showing yet again!

Beware the two edged sword......
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Who are Aboriginals to decide that Australian history and culture means nothing and should be ignored.???  YOUR and THEIR ignorance and racism and intolerance are showing yet again!

Beware the two edged sword......


This is about Aboriginal culture and history....If you deny their right then where does that leave anyone's culture and history....Would you prefer if Aboriginal people had no identity and just accepted their culture means nothing???

Huh Huh Huh
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So - in your eyes - there is no place for anyone else's history and culture?

What exactly are these 'rights' you are positing here.  You mean Coons can't vote, don't have freedom of movement and association, can't stand for elected office, can't draw the same sustenance from government, aren't subject to the same sanctions for criminal behaviour as anyone else, can't buy land and homes, can't gain an education, can't use our highways, can't swim in pools, can't apply for a job and gain it on merit as the interviewer deems......

You really are lost in Fairyland ... why should one small group constituting 3% of the population dictate to the 97%, on the basis of 'their' culture and history?  Do the 97% have no culture or history?  Or should that just be thrown on the scrap-heap to suit the demands of 100 activists as opposed to hundreds of thousands of Aboriginals who did not involve themselves?

Where are Kaffirs limited by anything but their own behaviour? And why should any nation listen to 100 people who demonstrate?
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So - in your eyes - there is no place for anyone else's history and culture?


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This is about Aboriginal culture and history....If you deny their right then where does that leave anyone's culture and history....Would you prefer if Aboriginal people had no identity and just accepted their culture means nothing???


Aboriginal people have history and culture that should be respected....Like every one else's....Where did I claim there is no place for anyone else's history and culture???

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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

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It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.
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freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.


Mabo and Wik bestowed native title to Aboriginal people upheld by the High Court of Australia despite Howard spending millions to oppose it....What do you think the NT intervention was all about....To move Aboriginal people off their land thus extinguishing native title....It did not work!!!

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Do you think it makes sense to have special land ownership arrangements that are based on racism and inalienable communal ownership?
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On last nights news I saw some Abos arrested protested the games. They looked like feral alchos.

Great representation of their people Smiley
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philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

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Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just about Ayres Rock

You reckon you state facts?

I state some & it's a racist rant Grin Roll Eyes


Stereotyping Aboriginal people is a racist rant....Not everyone fits your narrow view of Aboriginal society....There are problems but it will not be fixed by anyone like you!!!

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Nor you numpty.
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philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:56pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Who are Aboriginals to decide that Australian history and culture means nothing and should be ignored.???  YOUR and THEIR ignorance and racism and intolerance are showing yet again!

Beware the two edged sword......


This is about Aboriginal culture and history....If you deny their right then where does that leave anyone's culture and history....Would you prefer if Aboriginal people had no identity and just accepted their culture means nothing???

Huh Huh Huh


everyone elses rights & culture is being denied to appease certain groups that get preference ... Aboriginals being one.

No one is denying Aboriginals anything ... you must be blind & stupid.

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philperth2010 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:25am:
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.


Mabo and Wik bestowed native title to Aboriginal people upheld by the High Court of Australia despite Howard spending millions to oppose it....What do you think the NT intervention was all about....To move Aboriginal people off their land thus extinguishing native title....It did not work!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


BS .. the intervention was all about social issues in communities ... alcholol & drug abuse, Domestic violence, sexual abuse of children, wasting tax payers money that was meant for food & nourishment ... spent on grog & drugs.

Pull your head out of your leftard butt for 5 mins. You want to sweep this stuff under the carpet.

Adam Giles the Territorians former Chief Minister(Lib) is Aboriginal .... not a Territorian ... but from NSW. He wanted to frack(gas) the guts out of the Territory ...

hows that for history, culture and with being one with the land?

Territory Aboriginals didn't want it to happen / they still don't .... why wasn't that being respected by another Aboriginal?

He got kicked to the kerb & Labor won the last election.

Are they going to continue with the GAS FRACKING despite the traditional owners saying NO! ?

I've signed their social media run petitions against this scourge ........ have you?
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Gnads wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:25am:
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.


Mabo and Wik bestowed native title to Aboriginal people upheld by the High Court of Australia despite Howard spending millions to oppose it....What do you think the NT intervention was all about....To move Aboriginal people off their land thus extinguishing native title....It did not work!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


BS .. the intervention was all about social issues in communities ... alcholol & drug abuse, Domestic violence, sexual abuse of children, wasting tax payers money that was meant for food & nourishment ... spent on grog & drugs.

Pull your head out of your leftard butt for 5 mins. You want to sweep this stuff under the carpet.

Adam Giles the Territorians former Chief Minister(Lib) is Aboriginal .... not a Territorian ... but from NSW. He wanted to frack(gas) the guts out of the Territory ...

hows that for history, culture and with being one with the land?

Territory Aboriginals didn't want it to happen / they still don't .... why wasn't that being respected by another Aboriginal?

He got kicked to the kerb & Labor won the last election.

Are they going to continue with the GAS FRACKING despite the traditional owners saying NO! ?

I've signed their social media run petitions against this scourge ........ have you?


Pull your head out of your ass you racist dickhead....You know nothing....Aboriginal people deserve the same respect as anyone else which is something you fail to recognise with your bullshit rants!!!

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Is this nonsense still going on?  Just tell 'em NO - they missed the boat by 200 years and will just have to make their way in society along with the rest of us - and believe me it's not easy for everyone, white or black.

Second Nation People say NO!
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Reply #64 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:27am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:15am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:25am:
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.


Mabo and Wik bestowed native title to Aboriginal people upheld by the High Court of Australia despite Howard spending millions to oppose it....What do you think the NT intervention was all about....To move Aboriginal people off their land thus extinguishing native title....It did not work!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


BS .. the intervention was all about social issues in communities ... alcholol & drug abuse, Domestic violence, sexual abuse of children, wasting tax payers money that was meant for food & nourishment ... spent on grog & drugs.

Pull your head out of your leftard butt for 5 mins. You want to sweep this stuff under the carpet.

Adam Giles the Territorians former Chief Minister(Lib) is Aboriginal .... not a Territorian ... but from NSW. He wanted to frack(gas) the guts out of the Territory ...

hows that for history, culture and with being one with the land?

Territory Aboriginals didn't want it to happen / they still don't .... why wasn't that being respected by another Aboriginal?

He got kicked to the kerb & Labor won the last election.

Are they going to continue with the GAS FRACKING despite the traditional owners saying NO! ?

I've signed their social media run petitions against this scourge ........ have you?


Pull your head out of your ass you racist dickhead....You know nothing....Aboriginal people deserve the same respect as anyone else which is something you fail to recognise with your bullshit rants!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So respect is all about ignoring such things as  "alcohol & drug abuse, domestic violence, sexual abuse of children, wasting tax payers money that was meant for food & nourishment ... spent on grog & drugs."??  We could add "and giving in to every demand made in the name of respect for their culture"?

What exactly IS this respect,Phil?

Any time I meet a Niqqer I'm as friendly to him/her as to anyone else - I treat them as equals - when I was driving the club bus the local Koori community all held me in the greatest respect because I treated them like everyone else... and made sure they got the same service ...

Peoples is peoples, after all, and deserve respect and get it unless and until they prove themselves unworthy.

Now - what's all this about special treatment....?????
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:22am:
Is this nonsense still going on?  Just tell 'em NO - they missed the boat by 200 years and will just have to make their way in society along with the rest of us - and believe me it's not easy for everyone, white or black.

Second Nation People say NO!


The High Court of Australia granted and bestowed Native Title on Aboriginal people despite the best efforts of the Howard Government to deny them that right....What you believe or want has no bearing on reality!!!

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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:22am:
Is this nonsense still going on?  Just tell 'em NO - they missed the boat by 200 years and will just have to make their way in society along with the rest of us - and believe me it's not easy for everyone, white or black.

Second Nation People say NO!


The High Court of Australia granted and bestowed Native Title on Aboriginal people despite the best efforts of the Howard Government to deny them that right....What you believe or want has no bearing on reality!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Doesn't mean they get the whole show.... nor should they.  Reality is what it is - if I hold title to a piece of land and someone wants to take it for nothing - the problem is theirs.

What a poor decision by the court that was in reality - as usual way above the clouds and trying to play Solomon and in reality uncovering a nest of worms....

So you think that Aboriginals should be given everything they demand?  Even your home and livelihood?  Just because they say they were there first? Why not give 'em title to the whole of Far Western Sydney stretching to the Blue Mountains... and make Whitey pay rent on it on top of the over-priced land and house costs and mortgages.... brilliant stuff, Phil.

Now THAT's unreality.  What is reality is that if the Aboriginals want all these things, they will have to repay the cost of capital improvements.  If they can't do that - the answer is NO!  Tear up the roads to Ayers Rock and leave it fallow... no tourist dullah - the Kaffirs will soon come to heel, since they're only in it for the free money, since they have no more 'cultural attachment' to Ayers Rock than any other Australian in this day and age.

Maybe I should lay a claim to the hotels and such my great-great-grandparents developed in the New England region... I mean there's a historical and cultural attachment to pubs .... I could even allow the Niqqers to come in and drink beer.. for a fee ....  Grin  Grin  Grin
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.  anything you have " given " is STOLEN *

denying that fact will never hide the truth .
   


Not stolen
They were invaded

They had an opportunity to fight off the Invaders
But the primitives has no chance

So they are now nothing but a conquered race of losers.

But at least we let them live

Unlike the true First Australians who were wiped off the face of the Earth by the abbo Invaders

KARMA IS A BITCH......INNIT?


I don't see the issue. Aborigines went from being "third world savages" to having "everything given to them savages". If you really want to show your affiliation to the land, you need to spend a good year in the wilderness (perhaps some national park where it is off limits to tourists) and show that you can look after your surrounds without the help of non-aboriginal technology. And they can keep their clothes, for discretion sake.
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Give the bastards a tin of Evo-Stik and they'll let you go up any of 'their' bullshyte rocks......
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And if we could all pack up & leave .... after restoring the country to pre-colonisation days ...

removing & leveling all infrastructure .....

and I mean everything.

How would these whinging barstards go then?

You are a poor excuse for anything representing enlightenment.  Roll Eyes


If there was an effort to restore everything to pre-colonial days in Australia, it would not even take 6 months before the Asians start colonising Australia and calling it whatever they want to call the continent. Then the aborigines would lose all kinds of concern for the problems of what it was like before non-aboriginal people left. The aborigines would be reverting to whatever form of survival strategies that they could remember under minority conditions and trying to figure out a way to counter the new invasion that emotive arguments could not fight.
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They were 'invaded' in the same way as a Supermarket is opened in your suburb without your permission.


Great argument!

Did not ask for it. Did not want it. But eventually, you get to see reason to use it for your benefit. But you reserve the right to complain about the problems and inconveniences you want to embellish.
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Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:34am:
And if we could all pack up & leave .... after restoring the country to pre-colonisation days ...

removing & leveling all infrastructure .....

and I mean everything.

How would these whinging barstards go then?

You are a poor excuse for anything representing enlightenment.  Roll Eyes


If there was an effort to restore everything to pre-colonial days in Australia, it would not even take 6 months before the Asians start colonising Australia and calling it whatever they want to call the continent. Then the aborigines would lose all kinds of concern for the problems of what it was like before non-aboriginal people left. The aborigines would be reverting to whatever form of survival strategies that they could remember under minority conditions and trying to figure out a way to counter the new invasion that emotive arguments could not fight.


Bring in the Indos - shoot a few hundred thousand just to make a point..... reign of terror...

They'd be begging Whitey to come back....
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:01am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:22am:
Is this nonsense still going on?  Just tell 'em NO - they missed the boat by 200 years and will just have to make their way in society along with the rest of us - and believe me it's not easy for everyone, white or black.

Second Nation People say NO!


The High Court of Australia granted and bestowed Native Title on Aboriginal people despite the best efforts of the Howard Government to deny them that right....What you believe or want has no bearing on reality!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Doesn't mean they get the whole show.... nor should they.  Reality is what it is - if I hold title to a piece of land and someone wants to take it for nothing - the problem is theirs.

What a poor decision by the court that was in reality - as usual way above the clouds and trying to play Solomon and in reality uncovering a nest of worms....

So you think that Aboriginals should be given everything they demand?  Even your home and livelihood?  Just because they say they were there first? Why not give 'em title to the whole of Far Western Sydney stretching to the Blue Mountains... and make Whitey pay rent on it on top of the over-priced land and house costs and mortgages.... brilliant stuff, Phil.

Now THAT's unreality.  What is reality is that if the Aboriginals want all these things, they will have to repay the cost of capital improvements.  If they can't do that - the answer is NO!  Tear up the roads to Ayers Rock and leave it fallow... no tourist dullah - the Kaffirs will soon come to heel, since they're only in it for the free money, since they have no more 'cultural attachment' to Ayers Rock than any other Australian in this day and age.

Maybe I should lay a claim to the hotels and such my great-great-grandparents developed in the New England region... I mean there's a historical and cultural attachment to pubs .... I could even allow the Niqqers to come in and drink beer.. for a fee ....  Grin  Grin  Grin



The High Court has made it's determination (Mabo and Wik)....Aboriginal people must maintain a constant connection to the land to retain Native Title which is why they will not leave their remote communities and Government cannot provide the services they need....Aboriginal people are not entitled to everything they ask for as you claim....Educate yourself before making such a dickhead of yourself in future!!!

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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:56am:
Bring in the Indos - shoot a few hundred thousand just to make a point..... reign of terror...

They'd be begging Whitey to come back....


How can they get the message out? We would have taken all the communication equipment with us.
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Reply #74 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 2:16pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 11:23am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:56am:
Bring in the Indos - shoot a few hundred thousand just to make a point..... reign of terror...

They'd be begging Whitey to come back....


How can they get the message out? We would have taken all the communication equipment with us.


"For days and nights and nights and days, Umbuggaloondra plied his oar and pushed his bark canoe across the mighty Pacific Ocean (to use the White Man's term for it), until he reached civilisation in Nu Zuland... staggering onshore, he was promptly beaten up and robbed by a passing Maori Mongrel Mob bikie gang.... but finally made his way to Wundy Wullington, where he put his people's case to the government there and asked them to pass it on to the UN..... immediately Nu Zuland began to assemble an invasion fleet of two fishing boats and a fancy yacht....."

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Reply #75 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 2:19pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 11:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:01am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:22am:
Is this nonsense still going on?  Just tell 'em NO - they missed the boat by 200 years and will just have to make their way in society along with the rest of us - and believe me it's not easy for everyone, white or black.

Second Nation People say NO!


The High Court of Australia granted and bestowed Native Title on Aboriginal people despite the best efforts of the Howard Government to deny them that right....What you believe or want has no bearing on reality!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Doesn't mean they get the whole show.... nor should they.  Reality is what it is - if I hold title to a piece of land and someone wants to take it for nothing - the problem is theirs.

What a poor decision by the court that was in reality - as usual way above the clouds and trying to play Solomon and in reality uncovering a nest of worms....

So you think that Aboriginals should be given everything they demand?  Even your home and livelihood?  Just because they say they were there first? Why not give 'em title to the whole of Far Western Sydney stretching to the Blue Mountains... and make Whitey pay rent on it on top of the over-priced land and house costs and mortgages.... brilliant stuff, Phil.

Now THAT's unreality.  What is reality is that if the Aboriginals want all these things, they will have to repay the cost of capital improvements.  If they can't do that - the answer is NO!  Tear up the roads to Ayers Rock and leave it fallow... no tourist dullah - the Kaffirs will soon come to heel, since they're only in it for the free money, since they have no more 'cultural attachment' to Ayers Rock than any other Australian in this day and age.

Maybe I should lay a claim to the hotels and such my great-great-grandparents developed in the New England region... I mean there's a historical and cultural attachment to pubs .... I could even allow the Niqqers to come in and drink beer.. for a fee ....  Grin  Grin  Grin



The High Court has made it's determination (Mabo and Wik)....Aboriginal people must maintain a constant connection to the land to retain Native Title which is why they will not leave their remote communities and Government cannot provide the services they need....Aboriginal people are not entitled to everything they ask for as you claim....Educate yourself before making such a dickhead of yourself in future!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Curb your tongue, boy! I asked YOU if  "you think that Aboriginals should be given everything they demand?" So you dare not jump to the conclusion that I somehow think they get everything they demand.... and thus you have no right to call me a dickhead.. DICKHEAD!


Now... BOY... when you can find the time to get down off your high horse.... would you like to answer the question?

Do you think that Aboriginals should be given everything they demand?
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Reply #76 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 1:59pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 9:15am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:24pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:25am:
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.


Mabo and Wik bestowed native title to Aboriginal people upheld by the High Court of Australia despite Howard spending millions to oppose it....What do you think the NT intervention was all about....To move Aboriginal people off their land thus extinguishing native title....It did not work!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley


BS .. the intervention was all about social issues in communities ... alcholol & drug abuse, Domestic violence, sexual abuse of children, wasting tax payers money that was meant for food & nourishment ... spent on grog & drugs.

Pull your head out of your leftard butt for 5 mins. You want to sweep this stuff under the carpet.

Adam Giles the Territorians former Chief Minister(Lib) is Aboriginal .... not a Territorian ... but from NSW. He wanted to frack(gas) the guts out of the Territory ...

hows that for history, culture and with being one with the land?

Territory Aboriginals didn't want it to happen / they still don't .... why wasn't that being respected by another Aboriginal?

He got kicked to the kerb & Labor won the last election.

Are they going to continue with the GAS FRACKING despite the traditional owners saying NO! ?

I've signed their social media run petitions against this scourge ........ have you?


Pull your head out of your ass you racist dickhead....You know nothing....Aboriginal people deserve the same respect as anyone else which is something you fail to recognise with your bullshit rants!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No more racist than you being an appeasing race self hater.

And you think you know everything Numpty  Roll Eyes Grin

You're still shyting baby yellow.
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No more racist than you being an appeasing race self hater.

And you think you know everything Numpty  

You're still shyting baby yellow.


Gnads is the spawn of British Aboriginals who resents his removal from mother country.
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Gnads wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
No more racist than you being an appeasing race self hater.

And you think you know everything Numpty  

You're still shyting baby yellow.


Gnads is the spawn of British Aboriginals who resents his removal from mother country.


This my country.

Grin Who knows what spawned you.

Something noxious.
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Reply #79 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 2:37pm
 
Seems nobody wants to answer the hard questions:-

"What do Aboriginals want?"

"Should they be handed everything they demand?"

"Should not Aboriginals show equal respect for others?"

"Should not Aboriginals be working to better themselves?"

"What is 'respect' for Aboriginals?"

"Why do the Kaffir Luvvahs demand that White Australia (that vast majority) help out with Aboriginal basic problems, and then criticise White Australia for doing so - as 'taking away their sovereignty and their right to 'do things their way'?"

"Should Aboriginals be handed preferential treatment and extra money to get by, and on what basis?"
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Reply #80 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 2:48pm
 
Second Nation People say Hands Off Everything Whitey Brought You!

You are welcome to not be bound by White Man's laws and take your chances out there wandering in the bush with your loin cloth and nothing much else - and if you are not protected by Whitey's Law, you are fair game for anyone you steal from or attempt to steal from.  If you walk on the roads you may be subject to arbitrary running over like a Cane Toad.  Any Captain Cook goods found in your possession will be confiscated.

Go your own way..... in peace .. and allow everyone else to do the same... enjoy the great outdoors and your kangaroo steak.  Think of the freedom from White Man's oppression...
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Reply #81 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 10:51pm
 
If given the choice, any aboriginal person would not bother with the offer of free land, if the condition was that they had to avoid civilisation. Few aborigines would try and live separate from non-aboriginal people. And if the aboriginal people that did try to live a traditional aboriginal life (with few pieces of equipment from modern society to help them survive), they would turn whatever environment into some depressed landscape in need of intervention to remain a thriving biodiversity. But we all know how "interventions" turn out, don't we?
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So the 'Gay' BETA (White) males discovered that the ALPHA darkie males covered the majority of the planet like a Dominant Gene. Browns in the Middle-East, Yellows in Asia, Polynesia, North/Central/South America, Blacks in Africa, India, Melanesia, Australia.

Whitey only lived in Europe, like the 'physically' inferior 'Dandy' dressed BETA male that he is.
Like a 'child', his eyes were open to the reality of his situation - as he sailed across the seas (because he couldn't break through the Middle-East) and thus became the 'Jealous God'.

Even now, the Whitey BETA male is struggling to 'keep' North America, let alone - 'take' Australia.
Where Whitey BETA male goes, 80% more 'ALPHA' darkie males are there.
Darkies both 'outbreed' Whitey BETA male and 'seed' the whitey female 'more so' than Whitey male can seed Darkie female.
It's a 'race' that Whitey (Regressive) BETA male can never win.

Darkie ALPHA male (Black Groom)
Whitey ALPHA female (White Bride)

Darkie BETA female (Old)
Whitey BETA male (Dandy Gay)

Even now in Australia. BETA whitey males can't 'take' this country and only 'rent' here on privilege by the UK.
Real tough when it comes to fighting for the UK/USA overseas. But got absolutely NO BALLS for fighting for this country 'right here and now'.  Roll Eyes

The success of the Darkie Male seeding the most and Whitey female breeding the most will generate a genetic 'mainstream' that will result in the 'majority' of males 'naturally' being born 'darker' and the females 'whiter'.

Seal shagged Delta. Kelly got stuck with Boy George  Grin Grin

Even now - gutless 'Whitey' BETA male Australians gripe and moan, but the Darkie male always gets his way.
Black Males get 'FREE' sex in the USA.
Black Males get 'FREE' money in Australia.
...because Whitey 'BETA' males in Australia just biatch and moan - but never do anything about it because they are so crap-scared of UK/USA.  Grin Grin

White Aussie Males are subordinates to the UK/USA and take the black up the rear.  Grin
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Frickin' hell, Jasin. Take your black supremacist argument to somewhere where they give a damn.
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So-called 'Superior' White males
...outbred by yellow people in Sydney.
Are slaves to the Yellow man's 'Sport' culture in Melbourne.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 11:48pm:
Frickin' hell, Jasin. Take your black supremacist argument to somewhere where they give a damn.


Inferior white BETA male.
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Reply #86 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 11:51pm
 
When I go and sleep with a few black females, and they say I am better than their black boyfriends, that is NOT an argument to say I am the beta.
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Reply #87 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 11:53pm
 
White BETA males gave Darkie BETA females 'technology' to show her how polluted, nuked, destroyed, etc a planet can become.
Their way is 'DEATH' (Tree of Knowledge).

The Darkie ALPHA males gave the ALPHA whitey females the Regions of Australia (Sahul), Oceania & Namerica to have her 'babies' on.
Their way is 'LIFE' (Tree of Life ...and that's why they will 'live forever').
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90% of all ART,
both Historical & Modern
Depict the 'MALE' as being 'DARKER' than the Female.

Wink

Even Whitey 'Bikers, Musicians and any other Whitey male that needs to feel more cool, manly and get laid with a whitey female' ...wears 'BLACK'Grin
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Orthodox (Black Groom/White Bride)
...successful, popular version
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Retarded, backwards, un-orthodox (denial) version.
Note: whitey male wears black, darkie female wears white.
Grin Grin Grin   ...DA Losers!
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The White 'Feminine' RACE.


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Reply #93 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 8:28am
 
First Nation'S People say Hands OFF

National plebiscite before handing over any more national icons and before ratifying any current handovers - open and free discussion including ALL interest groups - which includes Joe and Jo White Public over land handovers and restrictions on entry etc.

PUT IT TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE, YOU GUTLESS TWERPS.

Never heard such bullshit in my life.  And many here and elsewhere wonder why people become more 'radicalised' in their own country and we end up with an 'extremist' controlling 'government' that ends up wrecking it for all.

Simple, really - as history shows over and over - you put in an 'extreme' government to overturn and control the bullshit going down endlessly, and then once they've done their job, they go after the big banana of total control - but the thing is - even in doing so, they can hardly do as much harm as the 'open-minded radicals' doing the 'deep meaningful thinking' about 'issues' these days, and ensuring themselves total control by stealth.  SS-DD.

Governmental structures (as opposed to 'governments')*  beware - eventually the ordinary people have had enough and will kick you into the gutter.


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Reply #94 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 8:34am
 
.JaSin. wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 11:49pm:
So-called 'Superior' White males
...outbred by yellow people in Sydney.
Are slaves to the Yellow man's 'Sport' culture in Melbourne.
Grin Grin



Yeah - but some 'white' men let the yellows in for their own purposes - namely undermining the rights of all the other White men.  Pretty much the same as all the other bullshit that's been going down for over forty years now..... read the signs, son.  All dedicated to destroying the rights of ordinary white men to simply be men and prosper, so that a self-appointed few can ride above the pack and exploit them all.

I say thrown them all out.
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Reply #95 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 6:55pm
 
Here are five simple statements that cannot be disputed.

Read them and then tell me why we should throw money at abbos who have no interest in working

1) what one person receives without working for, another person must work without receiving.

2) you cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

3) the grubberment cannot give to anybody anything that the grubberment does not first take from someone else.

4) you cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5) when half the people get the idea that they do not have to work, because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does them no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Australian workers currently pay between 25% and 40% of their income to the grubberment.
This money is wasted, thrown at parasites in Australia and overseas.
Why should we bother to work to support someone too damn lazy to support themselves?
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Valkie wrote on Apr 30th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Here are five simple statements that cannot be disputed.

Read them and then tell me why we should throw money at abbos who have no interest in working

1) what one person receives without working for, another person must work without receiving.

2) you cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

3) the grubberment cannot give to anybody anything that the grubberment does not first take from someone else.

4) you cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5) when half the people get the idea that they do not have to work, because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does them no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Australian workers currently pay between 25% and 40% of their income to the grubberment.
This money is wasted, thrown at parasites in Australia and overseas.
Why should we bother to work to support someone too damn lazy to support themselves?


No comment from apologists and abbo supporters eh

Too close to the truth eh,?
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