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Re: First Nation People say Hands OFF
Reply #45 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile - give 'em a mile and they'll take the bloody lot under 'their' terms.

I say NO!  Learned not one bloody thing from Hitler etc, have we?  The more you give in the more they want and then take until it becomes direct confrontation.

The big question here is why governments are allowing this to happen as if it's just a passing thing..... when the inevitable confrontations is drawing closer by the day...
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Re: First Nation People say Hands OFF
Reply #46 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just about Ayres Rock

You reckon you state facts?

I state some & it's a racist rant Grin Roll Eyes


Stereotyping Aboriginal people is a racist rant....Not everyone fits your narrow view of Aboriginal society....There are problems but it will not be fixed by anyone like you!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


and certainly not by Aboriginals the way they are going, either....
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Re: First Nation People say Hands OFF
Reply #47 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There is a huge difference here
And a lack of common Sense and intelligence

Did the abbos build Ayres rock? because that's exactly what it is, A ROCK

Did the assemble the rocks to form a structure?

Now
Westminster Abby was built, as were the pyramids
They are testament to man's ingenuity, to his skills, to his advanced mathematics and engineering skills

See the difference?

A big rock vs engineering marvels

But abbos have no respect for anything, just like the housing we give them.

Big rock.............
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Re: First Nation People say Hands OFF
Reply #48 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..
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Re: First Nation People say Hands OFF
Reply #49 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:18pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:08am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:02am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Ah, so a tiny minority of Kaffirs actually climbed the rock to discover their 'spiritual senses' - it wasn't actually a 'spiritual thing' at all, but something a few gave a shot (just like the rest of Australia) (LMAO) - and now they want to totally own and control the whole thing as a centre of spirituality?

What an absolute joke.

Sorry 'bout that - times change.


Why not just let people crap over Westminster Abby or the Pyramids....Or is it only some cultures that deserve respect???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There is a huge difference here
And a lack of common Sense and intelligence

Did the abbos build Ayres rock? because that's exactly what it is, A ROCK

Did the assemble the rocks to form a structure?

Now
Westminster Abby was built, as were the pyramids
They are testament to man's ingenuity, to his skills, to his advanced mathematics and engineering skills

See the difference?

A big rock vs engineering marvels

But abbos have no respect for anything, just like the housing we give them.

Big rock.............


I thought it was about respect and culture....Something you have no idea about....Aboriginal people are not all ass holes like you mate???

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Reply #50 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #51 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:39pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Who are Aboriginals to decide that Australian history and culture means nothing and should be ignored.???  YOUR and THEIR ignorance and racism and intolerance are showing yet again!

Beware the two edged sword......
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Reply #52 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:56pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


Who are Aboriginals to decide that Australian history and culture means nothing and should be ignored.???  YOUR and THEIR ignorance and racism and intolerance are showing yet again!

Beware the two edged sword......


This is about Aboriginal culture and history....If you deny their right then where does that leave anyone's culture and history....Would you prefer if Aboriginal people had no identity and just accepted their culture means nothing???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #53 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:03pm
 
So - in your eyes - there is no place for anyone else's history and culture?

What exactly are these 'rights' you are positing here.  You mean Coons can't vote, don't have freedom of movement and association, can't stand for elected office, can't draw the same sustenance from government, aren't subject to the same sanctions for criminal behaviour as anyone else, can't buy land and homes, can't gain an education, can't use our highways, can't swim in pools, can't apply for a job and gain it on merit as the interviewer deems......

You really are lost in Fairyland ... why should one small group constituting 3% of the population dictate to the 97%, on the basis of 'their' culture and history?  Do the 97% have no culture or history?  Or should that just be thrown on the scrap-heap to suit the demands of 100 activists as opposed to hundreds of thousands of Aboriginals who did not involve themselves?

Where are Kaffirs limited by anything but their own behaviour? And why should any nation listen to 100 people who demonstrate?
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Reply #54 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:15pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:03pm:
So - in your eyes - there is no place for anyone else's history and culture?


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This is about Aboriginal culture and history....If you deny their right then where does that leave anyone's culture and history....Would you prefer if Aboriginal people had no identity and just accepted their culture means nothing???


Aboriginal people have history and culture that should be respected....Like every one else's....Where did I claim there is no place for anyone else's history and culture???

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Reply #55 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.
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Reply #56 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:25am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 9:33am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
I was holding that argument in reserve... you swine.... but thanks for pointing out the difference between a rock and a structure..


Who are you to decide Aboriginal culture and history means nothing and should be ignored....Your ignorance and racism is showing yet again???

Smiley Smiley Smiley


It should be ignored by the law. It should mean nothing to the law.


Mabo and Wik bestowed native title to Aboriginal people upheld by the High Court of Australia despite Howard spending millions to oppose it....What do you think the NT intervention was all about....To move Aboriginal people off their land thus extinguishing native title....It did not work!!!

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Reply #57 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:33am
 
Do you think it makes sense to have special land ownership arrangements that are based on racism and inalienable communal ownership?
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Reply #58 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 11:50am
 
On last nights news I saw some Abos arrested protested the games. They looked like feral alchos.

Great representation of their people Smiley
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Reply #59 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:03pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:12am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 8:42am:
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 11th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
There are practical reasons why people should not climb Ayers Rock (Uluru)....Not that those wankers who hate Aboriginals care about any traditions accept their own....

Quote:
Uluru being 'used as a toilet'


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-08/uluru-being-used-as-a-toilet/1420964

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-magazine/forgive-us-our...

Angry Angry Angry


And what sanitation did Aboriginals use back in the day?

Like they do in many areas where they have camps today ......

they'd foul an area & move on (usually)

but alcohol & drug abuse make them stay in the filth longer.

And where taxpayers have provided homes & sanitation ..... they either don't know how to use it or don't care ...... they foul that & destroy it as well & guess who gets called to fix it?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Aboriginal people did not have the means to climb Uluru in mass numbers....But do not let facts get in the way of your racist rant mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's not just about Ayres Rock

You reckon you state facts?

I state some & it's a racist rant Grin Roll Eyes


Stereotyping Aboriginal people is a racist rant....Not everyone fits your narrow view of Aboriginal society....There are problems but it will not be fixed by anyone like you!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nor you numpty.
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