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Re: Terrorism in Germany?
Reply #45 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:16pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:27pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

For some perspective, here are a list of non-terrorist related rammings since 2010. As far as I know none of them were muslim, or had a muslim background (I removed 2 from the list who had muslim sounding names). And this doesn't include the terrorist attacks that were not 'Islamic' (eg the mosque attack in London, and the American one against antifa protesters)

2010 Hebei tractor rampage, 2010 mass murder using a bucket loader
2013 Tumon[39]
2013 Venice, Los Angeles (one dead)[40]
2014 Sopot attack, Poland[41] (ramming people)
2015 Graz van attack, mass murder using an SUV and a knife
2016 Scunthorpe road rage[42]
2017 Balneário Camboriú road rage[43]
2017 Heidelberg attack by mentally disturbed German student[44][45]
2017 Müllrose, Germany, drug addict kills two cops while fleeing in stolen car after stabbing his grandmother to death[46]
2017 Guatemala City, a car rammed into a student protest: 13 injured, one dead.[48]
2017 Venezuelan protests, several cases of vehicle rammings during opposition marches by security forces or government supporters.[49][50][51][52][53]
2017 Times Square car crash[54]
January 2017 Melbourne car attack in Melbourne, Australia in which six people were killed and 36 injured.[55]
2017 Sandy, Utah attack, car-ramming and shooting in Sandy, Utah[56]
July 2017 Helsinki attack, Finland, ramming people[57]
August 2017 Helsinki attack, Finland, failed ramming[58]
2017 Sept-Sorts attack, France, ramming a pizzeria[59]
December 2017 car attack in Perth, Australia, with one dead, four injured, three seriously.[60]
February 2018 car attack in Perth, Australia, with two injured, in suburban Mullaloo.[62]
2018 Münster vehicle ramming (ramming crowd at an outdoor café, killing three and injuring around 20; perpetrator then took his own life)[63]

Yes, spot on.

There's the one I mentioned at Venice Beach.

And ten years before that, up the road at Santa Monica, a car drove through a crowded open air market and killed ten people.

Not a Muslim. Not a terrorist.

When these things happen, it's rarely a terrorist (or a Muslim).

So, not sure why Homo and Rhino jumped to that conclusion.

2015 Graz van attack, mass murder using an SUV and a knife- Muslim attack.

It happens every now and then.

However, the vast majority of cases where cars drive through crowds and kill people has nothing to do terrorists.

Certainly not Muslims.

We've had two here in Perth recently.

Neither of them had anything to do with terrorism (or Muslims).

It seems the media has got you all worked up, Homo.

What about since ISIS called on Muslims to do it (last 4 years)?

It's usually old people who mistake the accelerator pedal for the brake.

They love doing it here in Perth.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1174032-3x2-940x627.jpg

Don't confuse terrorism with car accidents pecca. We are talking about intentional mass murder with a motor vehicle which Muslims are vastly over represented in.

I'm not confusing anything.

When a car drives through a crowd of people, it's usually NOT terror or Islam related.

So, it seems strange to automatically assume that every incident is an act of Islamic terrorism.

Most times, it's not.

More Perth terrorism:

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131477 Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #46 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:22pm This terrorist attack was in Gosnells (that's like your Blacktown).
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Re: Terrorism in Germany?
Reply #47 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:27pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

For some perspective, here are a list of non-terrorist related rammings since 2010. As far as I know none of them were muslim, or had a muslim background (I removed 2 from the list who had muslim sounding names). And this doesn't include the terrorist attacks that were not 'Islamic' (eg the mosque attack in London, and the American one against antifa protesters)

2010 Hebei tractor rampage, 2010 mass murder using a bucket loader
2013 Tumon[39]
2013 Venice, Los Angeles (one dead)[40]
2014 Sopot attack, Poland[41] (ramming people)
2015 Graz van attack, mass murder using an SUV and a knife
2016 Scunthorpe road rage[42]
2017 Balneário Camboriú road rage[43]
2017 Heidelberg attack by mentally disturbed German student[44][45]
2017 Müllrose, Germany, drug addict kills two cops while fleeing in stolen car after stabbing his grandmother to death[46]
2017 Guatemala City, a car rammed into a student protest: 13 injured, one dead.[48]
2017 Venezuelan protests, several cases of vehicle rammings during opposition marches by security forces or government supporters.[49][50][51][52][53]
2017 Times Square car crash[54]
January 2017 Melbourne car attack in Melbourne, Australia in which six people were killed and 36 injured.[55]
2017 Sandy, Utah attack, car-ramming and shooting in Sandy, Utah[56]
July 2017 Helsinki attack, Finland, ramming people[57]
August 2017 Helsinki attack, Finland, failed ramming[58]
2017 Sept-Sorts attack, France, ramming a pizzeria[59]
December 2017 car attack in Perth, Australia, with one dead, four injured, three seriously.[60]
February 2018 car attack in Perth, Australia, with two injured, in suburban Mullaloo.[62]
2018 Münster vehicle ramming (ramming crowd at an outdoor café, killing three and injuring around 20; perpetrator then took his own life)[63]

Yes, spot on.

There's the one I mentioned at Venice Beach.

And ten years before that, up the road at Santa Monica, a car drove through a crowded open air market and killed ten people.

Not a Muslim. Not a terrorist.

When these things happen, it's rarely a terrorist (or a Muslim).

So, not sure why Homo and Rhino jumped to that conclusion.

2015 Graz van attack, mass murder using an SUV and a knife- Muslim attack.

It happens every now and then.

However, the vast majority of cases where cars drive through crowds and kill people has nothing to do terrorists.

Certainly not Muslims.

We've had two here in Perth recently.

Neither of them had anything to do with terrorism (or Muslims).

It seems the media has got you all worked up, Homo.

What about since ISIS called on Muslims to do it (last 4 years)?

It's usually old people who mistake the accelerator pedal for the brake.

They love doing it here in Perth.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1174032-3x2-940x627.jpg

Don't confuse terrorism with car accidents pecca. We are talking about intentional mass murder with a motor vehicle which Muslims are vastly over represented in.

I'm not confusing anything.

When a car drives through a crowd of people, it's usually NOT terror or Islam related.

So, it seems strange to automatically assume that every incident is an act of Islamic terrorism.

Most times, it's not.

More Perth terrorism:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8671772-3x2-940x627.jpg

We are talking about intentionally driving through a crowd. You've got to let the car accident thing go. When I hear "intentionally" in the west I think of ISIS because there's loads of it going down. Don't blame me because they are doing loads of car ramming terrorist acts.

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Reply #48 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:38pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:27pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:13pm:

For some perspective, here are a list of non-terrorist related rammings since 2010. As far as I know none of them were muslim, or had a muslim background (I removed 2 from the list who had muslim sounding names). And this doesn't include the terrorist attacks that were not 'Islamic' (eg the mosque attack in London, and the American one against antifa protesters)

2010 Hebei tractor rampage, 2010 mass murder using a bucket loader
2013 Tumon[39]
2013 Venice, Los Angeles (one dead)[40]
2014 Sopot attack, Poland[41] (ramming people)
2015 Graz van attack, mass murder using an SUV and a knife
2016 Scunthorpe road rage[42]
2017 Balneário Camboriú road rage[43]
2017 Heidelberg attack by mentally disturbed German student[44][45]
2017 Müllrose, Germany, drug addict kills two cops while fleeing in stolen car after stabbing his grandmother to death[46]
2017 Guatemala City, a car rammed into a student protest: 13 injured, one dead.[48]
2017 Venezuelan protests, several cases of vehicle rammings during opposition marches by security forces or government supporters.[49][50][51][52][53]
2017 Times Square car crash[54]
January 2017 Melbourne car attack in Melbourne, Australia in which six people were killed and 36 injured.[55]
2017 Sandy, Utah attack, car-ramming and shooting in Sandy, Utah[56]
July 2017 Helsinki attack, Finland, ramming people[57]
August 2017 Helsinki attack, Finland, failed ramming[58]
2017 Sept-Sorts attack, France, ramming a pizzeria[59]
December 2017 car attack in Perth, Australia, with one dead, four injured, three seriously.[60]
February 2018 car attack in Perth, Australia, with two injured, in suburban Mullaloo.[62]
2018 Münster vehicle ramming (ramming crowd at an outdoor café, killing three and injuring around 20; perpetrator then took his own life)[63]

Yes, spot on.

There's the one I mentioned at Venice Beach.

And ten years before that, up the road at Santa Monica, a car drove through a crowded open air market and killed ten people.

Not a Muslim. Not a terrorist.

When these things happen, it's rarely a terrorist (or a Muslim).

So, not sure why Homo and Rhino jumped to that conclusion.

2015 Graz van attack, mass murder using an SUV and a knife- Muslim attack.

It happens every now and then.

However, the vast majority of cases where cars drive through crowds and kill people has nothing to do terrorists.

Certainly not Muslims.

We've had two here in Perth recently.

Neither of them had anything to do with terrorism (or Muslims).

It seems the media has got you all worked up, Homo.

What about since ISIS called on Muslims to do it (last 4 years)?

It's usually old people who mistake the accelerator pedal for the brake.

They love doing it here in Perth.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1174032-3x2-940x627.jpg

Don't confuse terrorism with car accidents pecca. We are talking about intentional mass murder with a motor vehicle which Muslims are vastly over represented in.

I'm not confusing anything.

When a car drives through a crowd of people, it's usually NOT terror or Islam related.

So, it seems strange to automatically assume that every incident is an act of Islamic terrorism.

Most times, it's not.

More Perth terrorism:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8671772-3x2-940x627.jpg

We are talking about intentionally driving through a crowd. You've got to let the car accident thing go. When I hear "intentionally" in the west I think of ISIS because there's loads of it going down. Don't blame me because they are doing loads of car ramming terrorist acts.

It isn't usually intentional.

And it rarely has anything to do with terrorism (or Muslims).

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #49 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:50pm Isn't this thread about intentional car ramming?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #50 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:53pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Isn't this thread about intentional car ramming? No.....see the very deliberate question mark in the Title?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131477 Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #51 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:56pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Isn't this thread about intentional car ramming? I didn't see the word "intentional" in the OP.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #52 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 5:03pm That photo's hilarious!!!
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Re: Terrorism in Germany?
Reply #53 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:12am:

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Although the perpetrator has not been officially named, he has been identified locally as Jens R, a German citizen born about an hour south of the city of Münster, where the attack took place.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/07/several-dead-car-drives-crowd-german...

Or in other words, a lilly white guy.

And so naturally we now turn our attention to the "mental illness" angle.

Nope.

You are wrong, gandalf

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By Robert Spencer on Apr 08, 2018 01:12 pm

Germany: Münster vehicular attacker was Muslim, Romanian TV reports that he was German citizen of Kurdish origin

In this post yesterday, I explained some of the problems with the German police’s explanation of this event: the man had “psychological problems” but apparently also explosives and accomplices, which mentally ill people who just snap one day don’t usually have.

And note how the police misleadingly said that the attacker was a German, when.....

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Re: Terrorism in Germany?
Reply #54 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:32pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:12am:

Quote:

Although the perpetrator has not been officially named, he has been identified locally as Jens R, a German citizen born about an hour south of the city of Münster, where the attack took place.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/07/several-dead-car-drives-crowd-german...

Or in other words, a lilly white guy.

And so naturally we now turn our attention to the "mental illness" angle.

Nope.

You are wrong, gandalf

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By Robert Spencer on Apr 08, 2018 01:12 pm

Germany: Münster vehicular attacker was Muslim, Romanian TV reports that he was German citizen of Kurdish origin

In this post yesterday, I explained some of the problems with the German police’s explanation of this event: the man had “psychological problems” but apparently also explosives and accomplices, which mentally ill people who just snap one day don’t usually have.

And note how the police misleadingly said that the attacker was a German, when.....

Google

Nope.

You are wrong, Yadda.

The police have confirmed he's a German-born citizen.

Your quote comes from a fake/hoax blog (which is why you didn't cite a reference).

You are not forgiven.

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Reply #55 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:32pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:12am:

Quote:

Although the perpetrator has not been officially named, he has been identified locally as Jens R, a German citizen born about an hour south of the city of Münster, where the attack took place.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/07/several-dead-car-drives-crowd-german...

Or in other words, a lilly white guy.

And so naturally we now turn our attention to the "mental illness" angle.

Nope.

You are wrong, gandalf

Quote:

By Robert Spencer on Apr 08, 2018 01:12 pm

Germany: Münster vehicular attacker was Muslim, Romanian TV reports that he was German citizen of Kurdish origin

In this post yesterday, I explained some of the problems with the German police’s explanation of this event: the man had “psychological problems” but apparently also explosives and accomplices, which mentally ill people who just snap one day don’t usually have.

And note how the police misleadingly said that the attacker was a German, when.....

Google

Nope.

You are wrong, Yadda.

The police have confirmed he's a German-born citizen.

Your quote comes from a fake/hoax blog (which is why you didn't cite a reference).

You are not forgiven.

You do know that you can be a German born citizen and still be a filthy muslim terrorists, don't you.

We have Australian borm terrorsist all over this country and filling up out super max prisons.

So nice red herring, but no fish accepted today.

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Re: Terrorism in Germany?
Reply #56 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:47pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:32pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:12am:

Quote:

Although the perpetrator has not been officially named, he has been identified locally as Jens R, a German citizen born about an hour south of the city of Münster, where the attack took place.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/07/several-dead-car-drives-crowd-german...

Or in other words, a lilly white guy.

And so naturally we now turn our attention to the "mental illness" angle.

Nope.

You are wrong, gandalf

Quote:

By Robert Spencer on Apr 08, 2018 01:12 pm

Germany: Münster vehicular attacker was Muslim, Romanian TV reports that he was German citizen of Kurdish origin

In this post yesterday, I explained some of the problems with the German police’s explanation of this event: the man had “psychological problems” but apparently also explosives and accomplices, which mentally ill people who just snap one day don’t usually have.

And note how the police misleadingly said that the attacker was a German, when.....

Google

Nope.

You are wrong, Yadda.

The police have confirmed he's a German-born citizen.

Your quote comes from a fake/hoax blog (which is why you didn't cite a reference).

You are not forgiven.

You do know that you can be a German born citizen and still be a filthy muslim terrorists, don't you.

We have Australian borm terrorsist all over this country and filling up out super max prisons.

So nice red herring, but no fish accepted today.

From Yadda's blog site quote:

"he was German citizen of Kurdish origin"

No.

He was a German born citizen of German origin, actually.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20223 Gordon Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #58 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 7:05pm In the news coverage on this a point was made to say that it WASN'T an Islamist extremist. Why didn't they also list all other religions and cultures not responsible?
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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16088 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Terrorism in Germany? Reply #59 - Apr 9^th, 2018 at 7:14pm The apologist, sychophantic sympathisers are working overtime on this one There will be a massive tanty when this bloke is exposed as a muzzo worshipper.
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