They should do a DNA test.

It's up to women all over the world to take a stand on this.

If men do it they will be branded homophobes and bigots.

I'm pretty sure the girls in the AFLW voted a big "NO" to Hannah Mouncey competing with them, otherwise he would have already completed his first season.

It was born a man, it has heart, lungs and skeletal / muscular structure and other organs of a man.

If this is allowed it will rob all women of glory in women's sports.

No matter how much these clowns mutilate themselves they will always be a man.

Maybe we should introduce a eunuch or gelding division.

Women are the ones that MUST take a stand on this.

Ajax wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 10:17am:


I agree women do need to take a stand

I believe the AFL who must oversee the AFLW have allowed Mouncey to play this year??

But the Commonwealth Games Committee allowed this bloke in the womens weightlifting .... did they consult every country & their athletic committees before they made the decision? Highly unlikely.

This also raised it's ugly head with an African athlete not too far back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya
Even the name "Caster" sounds like a blokes name.

And yes when the suggestion of DNA testing was raised ....the good old "race card" came out.

Quote:

record weight by a woman
Clean & Jerk
193 kg
Tatiana Kashirina

record weight by Man
Clean & Jerk
263 kg
Hossein Rezazadeh

if your a man and can lift more than 193kg and want to win no matter cost become a Tranny

what a wonderful and strong lady ..

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 10:25am:


It all started with Vini and Cyril Williams playing women's tennis, and then Michael fronting up as Obama's First Lady.

she will set a record no female will ever be able to break....stands to reason its unreasonable..

Laurel should never have put herself up for the chance to win a gold medal.....

she could very possibly still beat a lot of men .

whatever happened to the level playing field?

It's mostly female feminists driving this sort of crap so I reckon let it reach it's logical conclusion which will be men in frocks dominating women's sport and getting the highest pay cheques.

Another blow for the gender pay gap   

This THING wanted to play 15 year old Netball...

Hannah Callum Mouncey

100KG, 190cm Monster

100kg 190cm deviant Hannah Mouncey rejected from playing in girls under 15 netball – cracks human rights hissy

http://australiafirstparty.net/100kg-190cm-deviant-hannah-mouncey-rejected-from-...

cods wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:


Who the hell is LAUREL?

If you mean this tranny Kiwi then it's name is LAWRENCE.

Enough pandering Cods by even referring to him with a female name.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 4:50pm:


100% Mech (sorry edit Grappler my bad)

I say 100 % because that's all the best can be .....

not all the bullshyte ... he/she were or gave 110%

All in the same vein as this transgender men bs playing in  female competitions or competing against them in C/wealth or Olympic Games.

All I can say is

They brought it on themselves.

I can see the day when women will have no chance to compete
Simply because all the failed men athletes will have a sex change and have a go as a woman.

I think it's quite funny

Teaching will be interesting
With the current matriarchal system in place, the only way a man will be able to be a teacher will be to become female.
And there is nothing they can do about it

Myself
I plan to declare myself an entity
Neither male nor female
No race, no religion, no affiliations

This will make me a minority group
And if I feel discriminated against I'll take it to court

I expect special previlidges as a minority group
My own special waiting room so I won't have to mix with non- entities
Special payments to help me fit in
And I expect my own representation in grubberment
Which means I will have to be given a seat as I will be the only entity.

I will expect to be addressed as "your entity sir"

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:


Until one decides to play tennis

Boxing and MMA could get interesting if this rubbish continues.

mozzaok wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:34am:


You will struggle to find a case where doctors prescribe hormonal tablets to little kids 3 to 4 for gender identity issues.  Usually, at this young (3-4) age, it is because there is developmental problem, and that they are born either intersex, or meant to be a male, but for whatever reason the hormones were deficient.    In which case, the parents usually choose a sex. 

By contrast, in order for proper sexual reassignment, the hormonal treatment should ideally start before puperty in the case of males.  Because once males hit puberty, their testicles would produce alot of testosterone, and that would lead to development of secondary sexual characteristics - e.g. facial / body hair, and voice changes.   And ideally, the bilateral orchidectomy should occur then as well. 

However, then, there is the ethical dilemma.  The child would be too immature to realize the consequence of his or her action at this young age.   What if its just an curiosity and experiment.  Who is going to be responsible if there is 'buyer's remorse' later on in life? 

Ideally, in the future, we can have sort of gene therapy.  Where, we can change the basic DNA of a person, swapping the Y with X or vice versa.  And more effective secondary treatment to alter the gender morphism.

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:46am:


What a whole lot of sh!t, the world you want will be filled with manic depressed individual that will always be on the edge to suicide.

And that's when the oligarchy will have free rein to do with you as they will.

mozzaok wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 12:02pm:


I don't agree with one word he said, I'm not being abusive I'm just voicing my opinion.

Ajax wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:57am:


I understand that you are probably a more visual type of person.  As our technology advances, we are beginning to do things to the human body and genes the way we never thought possible before.  It would be just matter of them, before there are effective, and convincing treatments to fundamentally alter the human DNA after we are born.  In a way, that instead of gender reassignment, we would have say, a 2 year metamorphic treatment, where at the end of it, all the relevant DNA in the body be replaced to the sex in question, and effective cosmetic treatment to ensure all physical characteristics is consistent as well. 

And when that happens, there would not be any depression related to gender dysmorphism anymore.

Ajax wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:




A trained mental health professional.

Ajax wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 1:18pm:




Ummm, but would they?

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 12:53pm:


So, nothing to do with genitals or chromosomes or what sex you were while you molded your body? Just inject enough hormones to pass the test and convince a GP you really do think you are a woman?

Ajax wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 1:21pm:



No.

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 1:43pm:


So the guidelines say someone who is XY can compete as a female?

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 1:36pm:


I don't think that will ever happen.

Quote:


Being of and on the Earth is what makes us human, if we leave the sanctuary of the Earth then we will change as we have seen with astronauts and prolonged periods of time in space.

But somehow I don't think we'll become kryptonians.....

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 1:51pm:


https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada_transgender_athletes_v1.0_en.pdf

The guidelines are changing once again soon.  And its under development.

Johnnie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:08am:

How?

"Sports Anal"?   

tickleandrose wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:


And it shouldn't be because it's nonsense.

It makes a mockery of the whole concept.

They can form their own competitions & compete transgender against transgender.

Otherwise cease the lunacy.

TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:19pm:


The one on the midnight train to nowhere....

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:


'Dwarf?'  Did you not see the size of that fat lot?  Sure, s/he was also fat, but I am unconvinced s/he was any bigger than most of the rest of them.

Did you watch it, as I did?

Gordon wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 7:02pm:

But but but

According to the new criteria

You don't have to actually BE A FEMALE

It's enough to just FEEL LIKE A FEMALE

ISNT THAT WHAT ALL THESE BRAIN DEAD GENDER NEUTRALS SAY?????

Put him in a special category - sure to win Gold for Nu Zuland.... and Silver and Bronze...

Jesus..... what a spastic...

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:


Bring out the gimp.
Greg's sleeping.
Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake him up now, won't you?

freediver wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:46am:



The IOC states that for transgender women to compete, they are first required to demonstrate that there testosterone levels have been below 10 nanomoles per litre of blood for 12 months. This may sound confusing, but to put it in perspective males will average between 23-28 nanomoles per litre and women 3-6.

Although this can vary from person to person, medications are designed specifically to suppress or reduce testosterone — and the athletes competing are tested to make sure they are less than 10 nanomoles.


STRENGTH DROP

The effects of such low levels of testosterone is massive, and noticeable to the person going through the process within a week. No one else will see such early changes, but some changes are that quick.
The drop off in strength, which is what everyone is talking about, is enormous. I know that for myself, I went from lifting over 200kg to not even half of that in about a year; which is the time you must wait to be able to be compete with other women. This is on top of the effects it has on your endurance, speed, agility and any other physical characteristic you can think of.
So while yes, Laurel may well be lifting weights many men and women could only dream of, so are other elite athletes at these games.
Prior to her transition she was a New Zealand Junior National Champion, and has competed at elite levels of the sport for her entire life. Just like some people are good at art, some at music; she is good at weightlifting — and transitioning is not going to change that.
But what is clear is before she transitioned she was lifting much heavier weights. Something that would be entirely unattainable now.

LOOKS CAN BE DECEIVING

Perception is also a massive issue with trans women, and size is something that doesn’t go away as quickly as your physical abilities (in Laurel’s case, her strength). Essentially it’s year nine PE stuff, your body does what it can to preserve muscle when it realises it’s losing it, so it’s a slow process. But the effect the lack of testosterone has on your central nervous system is much more rapid and much more pronounced. So often, trans women will look a lot stronger than they actually are.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/sports-life/the-myth-around-tran...

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:


Sounds like BS to me. So the different hormone levels in women basically poison them? You can grow the bone and muscle structure of a man, but all the difference disappears within a year of taking different hormones?`

Aussie wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:


Have you ever seen photos of Dean Lukin & then after he retired from weightlifting?

It matters not what you saw .... this person is still a bloke competing against women.

It's bs.

Gnads wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 5:12pm:


When a women is capable of producing the natural levels of testosterone of a male atheletes, then it is very likely that she is either doping, or suffering from some sort of medical problem (e.g. undiagnosed intersex, or some sort of pituitary tumour etc).   Males have natural advantage over female in many sports due to testosterone helps improve muscle growth and recovery time.   However, if the hormonal level were to be suppressed to that of a woman, then you would see a dramatic hit to the male performance.  And males in those circumstance are at more risk of having osteopenia / osteoporosis that cuts their career short.

Gnads wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 9:07am:




Well each to their own, I say.

Exactly, e.g. how has a transgender weightlifter personally affected you Mr Hammer.


The only people who have  a right to complain are the athletes.

Black Orchid wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 9:42am:




Then you'd still f%*King whinge for normalising transgender athletes.

Black Orchid wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 9:54am:




Nah, would take her canyoning instead.

Black Orchid wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 9:54am:


I took mine to a touch footy comp near Malabar the other day, most of the girls were Islanders....YIKES!

Quote:


Then we have Gabrielle Ludwig.   Can anyone pic 'her' out?



How about we just declaw a 300 kg Grizzly and put it in the boxing/wrestling ring against the men.  Why not?   It's hardly anymore ridiculous.

Just did a quick google of the prize earning of female tennis players in the 100-200 rankings and it's $1 to 2 million, not including sponsorship.

A lot of men who have no chanced of making it as a male professional could make the lower rankings of the womens tournament and make decent money.

Provide an incentive and it will happen.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 12:00pm:


Poor logic.

The fact that trannies are just recently being accepted as no different to biological women is a new thing.

Watch this space.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 12:03pm:


How about you live in reality.
The current push for is for trannies to be accepted as women and they've been popping up in sport all over the place.

This is a new phenomenon.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 12:10pm:


Which seems to be allowing trannies to play as women.
If they don't they will be shamed as being transphobic.

Instead of just arguing for arguments sake, should trannies be able to play any women's sport they like?

What's your actual opinion?

E.g. are you aware of the requirements that Laurel Hubbard needed to fulfil to compete?

Gordon wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 12:29pm:




I did, I asked if you're aware of the requirements for transgender athletes to compete? E.g. Testosterone levels below a certain level for at least a year.

Black Orchid wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:11pm:



They mostly take hormone blockers rather than hormones.