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Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:35pm
 
The draft boundaries for the Victorian and ACT redistributions have been released.

Proposed federal electoral divisions for Victoria released [6 April 2018]
Proposed federal electoral divisions for ACT released [6 April 2018]

Pollbludger has performed a quick analysis and The Tallyroom has a running coverage.

Summary of analysis:
* In Victoria, the new seat of Fraser is in the western suburbs of Melbourne and is notionally a very safe ALP seat (20.9%).
* In the ACT, the new seat of Bean takes up most of the southern part of the ACT and is a notional ALP seat.
* Two Liberal seats in Victoria become notionally Labor: Corangamite (renamed as Cox) with a notional ALP margin of 0.1% and Dunkley with a notional ALP margin of 1.7%.

The redistribution increases the number of seats from 150 to 152, with a loss of a seat in South Australia not yet included. The notional seat balance in the parliament with the Victorian and ACT redistributions will be ALP 73 (up 4), Coalition 74 (down 2).

Draft boundaries for the redistributions for Queensland and South Australia will be released next week. South Australia will lose a seat. Queensland will be unchanged.
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Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
On the South Australian redistribution, 11 South Australian seats will soon be reduced to 10. The current makeup of the SA seats are 6 ALP, 4 Liberal, 1 NXT.

All of the SA seats are under the SA quota. The three seats that are most under the quota are all Liberal seats (Grey, Sturt and Barker). The three seats that are closest to the quota are all Labor seats (Port Adelaide, Wakefield, Hindmarsh). This suggests the most likely outcome of a redistribution would see the Liberals and NXT losing a notional seat between them (the NXT seat is a Liberal-leaning seat and is well under quota).

It is possible that the notional seat distribution between the major parties for the next election would be 73-73 with 5 crossbenchers.
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Reply #2 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 3:00pm
 
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Reply #3 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 5:46pm
 
The ABC has posted analysis that draws similar conclusions to those I posted earlier from Pollbludger and The Tallyroom.

Labor set to benefit from proposed changes to federal electoral boundaries

Antony Green has said this:
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Victorian redistribution, the new ACT Labor seat and changes to Corangamite/Cox and Dunkley seat effectively wipes out the government's majority


This is also worth mentioning:
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Electorates with new names:

* Corangamite changes to Cox after swimming icon May Cox
* McMillan changes to Monash after WWI general Sir John Monash
* Melbourne Ports changes to Macnamara after scientist Dame Annie Jean Macnamara
* Murray changes to Nicholls after Aboriginal rights advocates Sir Douglas Nicholls and Lady Gladys Nicholls
* New division is created in western Melbourne and named Fraser after former PM Malcolm Fraser
* New division is created in southern Canberra and named Bean after war correspondent Charles Bean

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Reply #4 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:26pm
 
Vic and ACT - rabidly Labor and suddenly... a redistribution that in every seat favours labor. Perhaps payback for the 15year late redistribution in SA?
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Reply #5 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 8:28pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Vic and ACT - rabidly Labor and suddenly... a redistribution that in every seat favours labor. Perhaps payback for the 15year late redistribution in SA?

No. You really should learn how redistributions work.

The population of the ACT has grown to the point where a third seat is justified. The ACT is safe Labor territory.

Several outer suburban Labor seats in Victoria are over quota due to population growth while Liberal seats tend to be under quota.

Top 8
McEwen
(ALP)
+31.0%
Lalor
(ALP)
+22.5%
Holt
(ALP)
+13.8%
Gorton
(ALP)
+13.5%
McMillan
(Lib)
+13.0%
Flinders
(Lib)
+11.7%
Wills
(ALP)
+10.6%
Melbourne
(Greens)
+9.9%

Bottom 8
Bruce
(ALP)
-10.8%
Aston
(Lib)
-10.1%
Chisholm
(Lib)
-8.6%
Menzies
(Lib)
-7.6%
Wannon
(Lib)
-6.6%
Mallee
(Nat)
-6.6%
Deakin
(Lib)
-6.4%
Hotham
(ALP)
-6.0%

The top two seats in Victoria have an extra half a quota between them. That's MASSIVE.

The seven seats that are most over quota are outer suburban seats and most of them are Labor-voting areas. The Liberal exceptions are adjacent outer seats to the south-east on the Bass strait coast.

The Victorian seats are clearly malapportioned in favour of the Coalition. (You would probably call it a "gerrymander" though it technically isn't one). This is why Labor are gaining three notional seats in Victoria and the Liberals are losing two. (Although the renamed Corangamite would become a notional Labor seat, the notional margin would be a wafer-thin 0.1%).

The overall picture is to take a malapportionment that clearly favours the Liberals and rebalancing it back to the centre.

The bad news for the Liberals is that the current distribution in South Australia is also slanted towards the Liberals and the SA redistribution where one seat is to be abolished may see the loss of another Liberal seat.

The news in Queensland is better for the Coalition, where the quotas are more evenly distributed among the major parties. Queensland's boundary changes are relatively mild tweaking by comparison (all Queensland seats are within 7% of quota) and it's likely that no notional seats will change hands.
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Reply #6 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 8:42pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Vic and ACT - rabidly Labor and suddenly... a redistribution that in every seat favours labor. Perhaps payback for the 15year late redistribution in SA?


The Libs are not even in with a chance so unsure what you're whinging about
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Reply #7 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 8:59pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Vic and ACT - rabidly Labor and suddenly... a redistribution that in every seat favours labor. Perhaps payback for the 15year late redistribution in SA?


The Libs are not even in with a chance so unsure what you're whinging about

He seems to be very ... selective ... with his views of malapportionment depending on which party is favoured. One that favoured state Labor in South Australia is a crime against democracy and has to be complained about endlessly. A similar Federal malapportionment that favours the Liberals is apparently okay (at least, he has made no complaints) and removing this somehow has nefarious motives.

Yes, the Coalition are doomed to defeat at the next Federal election. Even Dutton has admitted it. Introducing fairer division boundaries will only hasten their demise. It's going to be hard for the Coaltiion to win an election when they are as popular as dog turds and they need to gain three notional seats at the next election just to hold on to power.

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Reply #8 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 10:51pm
 
Some coalition supporter like juliar will call this a conspiracy against coalition.
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Reply #9 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 10:54pm
 
This is a bit of bad news for team libtard  Smiley
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Reply #10 - Apr 7th, 2018 at 7:06am
 
stunspore wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 10:51pm:
Some coalition supporter like juliar will call this a conspiracy against coalition.


Unfortunately pore, Liar won't reply until sunday night when they let it out of weekend detention. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #11 - Apr 13th, 2018 at 5:52pm
 
South Australian draft boundaries have been released.

It proposes to abolish the safe Labor seat of Port Adelaide. It will have the effect of changing a few marginal Labor seats into safe seats (Adelaide, Hindmarsh Spence/Wakefield), and most seats will have a notional swing to Labor (Kingston being the exception).

Although the Liberals do not lose a seat, the notional swing to Labor could make it harder for the Liberals to retain their seats.

Could this good news for the Liberals be possibly linked to Vanstone's sister-in-law heading up the SAEC?
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Reply #12 - Apr 13th, 2018 at 6:06pm
 
Its time wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Roll on blood bath , election I mean


Wouldn't it be wonderful if it really was an actual bloodbath.

Pollies stabbing and slashing pollies

Just think of the wasted money saved because we would no longer have to pay the dead ones their excessive pensions.

I'll even sharpen their knives for them.
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Reply #13 - Apr 13th, 2018 at 9:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 6:06pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Roll on blood bath , election I mean


Wouldn't it be wonderful if it really was an actual bloodbath.

Pollies stabbing and slashing pollies

Just think of the wasted money saved because we would no longer have to pay the dead ones their excessive pensions.

I'll even sharpen their knives for them.

I wish we could vote the worst of them off the island, Survivor-style.
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Reply #14 - Apr 13th, 2018 at 9:34pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 13th, 2018 at 6:06pm:
Its time wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Roll on blood bath , election I mean


Wouldn't it be wonderful if it really was an actual bloodbath.

Pollies stabbing and slashing pollies

Just think of the wasted money saved because we would no longer have to pay the dead ones their excessive pensions.

I'll even sharpen their knives for them.


Bring back politicians with armies Rome style. At least they'd have to lay their lives on the line for their ambitions.
I'd certainly like the decision makers to take some risk to get what they want. Alas we have men leading us as brave as Darius III.
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Reply #15 - Apr 13th, 2018 at 10:18pm
 
We could introduce shoe throwing........
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Reply #16 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
Pollbludger has posted a pendulum for the next Federal election assuming the provisional boundaries are adopted as the final boundaries.

The seat counts are 72 Labor, 74 Coalition, 2 Labor-leaning seats (Melbourne, Denison>Clark) and 3 Coalition-leaning seats (Indi, Kennedy, Mayo). Two Liberal-held seats become notionally Labor on the new boundaries (Corangamite>Cox, Dunkley).

Coalition seats under 1%: 3
Coalition seats under 2%: 8
Coalition seats under 3%: 12
Coalition seats under 4%: 18
Coalition seats under 5%: 20

Labor seats under 1%: 4
Labor seats under 2%: 9
Labor seats under 3%: 12
Labor seats under 4%: 13
Labor seats under 5%: 19
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