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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: Crazy vegan bunny boiler Reply #75 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:41pm freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:28pm: Why do you say we are not naturally vegans Greg? Do humans have a natural philosophy FD?
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Reply #76 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:41pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:28pm:

Why do you say we are not naturally vegans Greg?

Do humans have a natural philosophy FD?

I have never met a human without some kind of philosophy. The closer they are to a natural state, the more natural their philosophy is.

Is that they only reason? Do you think we are naturally dietary vegans?

Why did you not post the link to where you got that definition of vegan from Greg? Is it because it goes on to contradict you?

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Reply #77 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:53pm

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:41pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:28pm:

Why do you say we are not naturally vegans Greg?

Do humans have a natural philosophy FD?

I have never met a human without some kind of philosophy. The closer they are to a natural state, the more natural their philosophy is.

Is that they only reason? Do you think we are naturally dietary vegans?

Why did you not post the link to where you got that definition of vegan from Greg? Is it because it goes on to contradict you?

Do humans have a natural philosophy, though?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Crazy vegan bunny boiler Reply #78 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:55pm I'd say we have many Greg. Though none of them vegan of course. Do you think we are naturally dietary vegans? Why did you not post the link to where you got that definition of vegan from Greg? Is it because it goes on to contradict you?
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Reply #79 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:00pm

freediver wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 1:55pm:

I'd say we have many Greg. Though none of them vegan of course.

Do you think we are naturally dietary vegans?

Why did you not post the link to where you got that definition of vegan from Greg? Is it because it goes on to contradict you?

So we agree: humans are not naturally vegan.

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Reply #81 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:05am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 6:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 5:03pm:

I dont know about vegans but none of my vegetarian freinds "crave meat"

Spot

I've never heard of a vegetarian or a vegan craving meat.

Valkie's just making stuff up again.

why do they eat vege sausages then?

Haha cause they arent meat?

Spot

Spot on!

If they ate meat sausages, they wouldn't be vegetarians Roll Eyes

What are they wrapped in? Grin

Plastic?

Yes.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

Really.... can't you?

Plastic is even worse for you to eat. Especially for a herbivore Grin

Simples really. Roll Eyes

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Reply #82 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:21pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:05am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 6:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 5:03pm:

I dont know about vegans but none of my vegetarian freinds "crave meat"

Spot

I've never heard of a vegetarian or a vegan craving meat.

Valkie's just making stuff up again.

why do they eat vege sausages then?

Haha cause they arent meat?

Spot

Spot on!

If they ate meat sausages, they wouldn't be vegetarians Roll Eyes

What are they wrapped in? Grin

Plastic?

Yes.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

Really.... can't you?

Plastic is even worse for you to eat. Especially for a herbivore Grin

Simples really. Roll Eyes

What sort of person eats the plastic wrapping?

Undecided

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Reply #83 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

"Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals."

"A herbivore is an animal anatomically and physiologically adapted to eating plant material, for example foliage, for the main component of its diet."

I find it quite unbelievable that this needed to be explained to two grown men.

Wonders never cease.

FD and Set: your white flags have been accepted.

Next time, come prepared Wink

Herbivores also eat dirts i.e. clays & chew on carcasses of other dead animals when they lack certain minerals.

Seem to change their diet somewhat from simply being herbivores.

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Reply #84 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

"Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals."

"A herbivore is an animal anatomically and physiologically adapted to eating plant material, for example foliage, for the main component of its diet."

I find it quite unbelievable that this needed to be explained to two grown men.

Wonders never cease.

Are you Dr Doolittle? Have you asked herbivores their philosophy?

Quit while you're behind, Set.

You're just making a fool of yourself now.

I'd say that boot was on your foot not Sets.

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Reply #85 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:26pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 11:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 11:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 11:01pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:12pm:

Why did you not post the link to where you got that from Greg? Is it because it goes on to contradict you?

Are you embarrassed at not knowing the difference between a vegan and a herbivore?

I'm curious.

So your difference is one has a philosophy that they can enunciate to you and the other may have one they can't?

If you think I'm being silly then we will move on to the belief in the "sentience" of animals that vegans have. You may call it anthropomorphism but vegans may well disagree.

Being herbivorous isn't a philosophy, Set.

You should have quit while you were miles behind.

I have never, at any time, said that humans are naturally vegans.

Why would I? - It's a ludicrous proposition.

Following FD down this path (of lies) has made you look the fool.

I doubt you'll be able to redeem yourself.

You've gone down far more ludicrous paths in your pedantry Greg.

All you have is that the difference between a man as a herbivore or a vegan is a state of mind, a philosophy, a belief. He is a "natural herbivore" but that, beyond the politics, is a vegan. If that is the case, and it takes a conscious effort to be a vegan, a philosophy, to be a herbivore/vegan, that is going against man's nature. If that is the case, man must be a natural omnivore.

As I've pointed out, our whole build is as a predator, you don't need this to eat grass. We can outrun any prey, our eyes are a predators eyes, our brain is a predators brain, we use that to make tools to down animals 100 times our size.

If you didn't get it, my point is we are not natural herbivores. We are hunters, predators. We may have evolved from grass nibblers but we are not that same creature now. We all(animals) evolved from the same source DNA, we are not all the same and we change.

Correct Set .... some 2 million years of evolution.

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Re: Crazy vegan bunny boiler
Reply #86 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 12:22pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:37am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 5^th, 2018 at 9:05am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 6:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 6:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 5:03pm:

I dont know about vegans but none of my vegetarian freinds "crave meat"

Spot

I've never heard of a vegetarian or a vegan craving meat.

Valkie's just making stuff up again.

why do they eat vege sausages then?

Haha cause they arent meat?

Spot

Spot on!

If they ate meat sausages, they wouldn't be vegetarians Roll Eyes

What are they wrapped in? Grin

Plastic?

Yes.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

Really.... can't you?

Plastic is even worse for you to eat. Especially for a herbivore Grin

Simples really. Roll Eyes

What sort of person eats the plastic wrapping?

Undecided

Who eats the plastic wrapping?

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Reply #87 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 12:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 11:43am:

Humans crave protein and the fastest way to get that is by eating meat.

Nope.

Milk and nuts, actually.

In order to get meat one must kill an animal, butcher it, and then cook the meat.

Nuts can be picked straight from the plant, and milk can be obtained straight from the cow/sheep/goat/whatever.

And, neither require cooking.

Much, much quicker.

Why then do Chimpanzees & Baboons deliberately hunt & kill other animals to eat?

They are herbivores ... they eat fruits & nuts ... puts a hole in your theories.

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Reply #88 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:30pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 12:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 11:43am:

Humans crave protein and the fastest way to get that is by eating meat.

Nope.

Milk and nuts, actually.

In order to get meat one must kill an animal, butcher it, and then cook the meat.

Nuts can be picked straight from the plant, and milk can be obtained straight from the cow/sheep/goat/whatever.

And, neither require cooking.

Much, much quicker.

Why then do Chimpanzees & Baboons deliberately hunt & kill other animals to eat?

They are herbivores ... they eat fruits & nuts ... puts a hole in your theories.

What theories?

And, who eats the plastic wrapping?

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Reply #89 - Apr 6^th, 2018 at 2:31pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 12:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 11:43am:

Humans crave protein and the fastest way to get that is by eating meat.

Actually, it's EGGS
Followed by wild salmon and cottage cheese

Of course, the beef industry will try and tell you otherwise

All animal products & not the food of herbivores ey?

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