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Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:16pm
 

".....aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed."




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DNA study sheds light on aboriginal Australians' heritage


Researchers turn up evidence of interbreeding between native Australians and people who came from India.

January 14, 2013
By Rosie Mestel, Los Angeles Times

When modern humans left Africa as far back as 70,000 years ago, they dispersed across the world, reaching Australia 50,000 to 40,000 years ago. From then until the 18th-century arrival of European colonists, aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed.

Now a study has turned up evidence of much more recent interbreeding between native Australians and people who came from India. The findings, based on a detailed examination of the DNA of aboriginal Australians and hundreds of people of other pedigrees, found that mixing occurred as recently as 4,200 years ago.


.....They found, for example, that aboriginal Australians, Papua New Guinea highlanders and the Mamanwa people from the Philippines were genetically closest to each other and diverged about 36,000 years ago. This fit well with earlier genetic studies.

But the team was surprised to find — using four separate statistical methods — that a much more recent genetic mixing with people from India had occurred. They estimated that about 11% of the DNA of aboriginal Australians is derived from this event.


.....Using the size and number of DNA stretches in people alive today, the team ran computer simulations to calculate that 141 generations have passed since the initial interbreeding. With each generation assumed to be 30 years, that adds up to 4,230 years.

It isn't clear how the mixing took place. Though it might make sense that the gene flow occurred in Indonesia, no traces of Indian DNA could be found among the Indonesians in the sample and no Indonesian DNA could be found in the Australians, the authors said — perhaps suggesting the migrants came directly to Australia by water. Still, a more detailed analysis of Indonesian genomes would be needed to rule out that connection, Stoneking said.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/science/la-sci-india-australia-migration...


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Re: aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with
Reply #1 - Mar 25th, 2018 at 9:32pm
 
the study only looked at aboriginals from the NT. The evidence also points to the arrival of the dingo on the Australian continent around 4 - 5000 years ago. More than likely there was a mass single migration to Northern Australia about this time bringing with them the dingo. I suspect that tribal groups from eastern Australia would have no Indian DNA at all.
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Reply #3 - Apr 1st, 2018 at 11:35pm
 
Aborigines probably had some origin from southern Asia (such as India and Sri Lanka). There was a story about a Sri Lankan guy who had been collecting aboriginal benefits, even though this Sri Lankan guy was born in Sri Lanka. Looking at his photo, he did look aboriginal. But you could see the asian appearance that is seen in Sri Lankan people.

Much of the aborigines in Australia probably have some kind of ancestry that date back 100,000 years to the out of Africa theory.
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Reply #4 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
If human migration out of Africa started 110,000 years ago, and evidence of Aboriginal occupation goes back around 40,000 years, that puts their arrival "here" in the middle of the Glacial Period when sea levels were significantly lower.

Australia was connected to New Guinea and Tasmania by grassy lowlands. The same was true of Thailand, Samatra, Philippines and Java. The only stretch of deep sea in that area seems to have been in the island dotted region between the Celebes and Western New Guinea. Sri Lanka was part of India, so its not difficult imagining DNA from Sri Lanka finding its way to Australia in comparatively recent times.
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Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:50pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:16pm:

".....aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed."




Quote:

DNA study sheds light on aboriginal Australians' heritage


Researchers turn up evidence of interbreeding between native Australians and people who came from India.

January 14, 2013
By Rosie Mestel, Los Angeles Times

When modern humans left Africa as far back as 70,000 years ago, they dispersed across the world, reaching Australia 50,000 to 40,000 years ago. From then until the 18th-century arrival of European colonists, aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed.

Now a study has turned up evidence of much more recent interbreeding between native Australians and people who came from India. The findings, based on a detailed examination of the DNA of aboriginal Australians and hundreds of people of other pedigrees, found that mixing occurred as recently as 4,200 years ago.


.....They found, for example, that aboriginal Australians, Papua New Guinea highlanders and the Mamanwa people from the Philippines were genetically closest to each other and diverged about 36,000 years ago. This fit well with earlier genetic studies.

But the team was surprised to find — using four separate statistical methods — that a much more recent genetic mixing with people from India had occurred. They estimated that about 11% of the DNA of aboriginal Australians is derived from this event.


.....Using the size and number of DNA stretches in people alive today, the team ran computer simulations to calculate that 141 generations have passed since the initial interbreeding. With each generation assumed to be 30 years, that adds up to 4,230 years.

It isn't clear how the mixing took place. Though it might make sense that the gene flow occurred in Indonesia, no traces of Indian DNA could be found among the Indonesians in the sample and no Indonesian DNA could be found in the Australians, the authors said — perhaps suggesting the migrants came directly to Australia by water. Still, a more detailed analysis of Indonesian genomes would be needed to rule out that connection, Stoneking said.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/science/la-sci-india-australia-migration...


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Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:57pm
 
Old news really.
Been known for a long time that Aboriginal gene background originated around the Caucasus Mountain region (hence Caucasoid 'wavy' hair filaments, compared to Negroid 'curly' and Mongoloid 'straight') and travelled 'across India' before heading into Australia.

Most likely that Indonesia was pretty empty except for ancient 'Hominid' species that still lingered around, like the 'Flores' species.
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Re: aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with
Reply #7 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 3:46pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2018 at 11:57pm:
Old news really.
Been known for a long time that Aboriginal gene background originated around the Caucasus Mountain region (hence Caucasoid 'wavy' hair filaments, compared to Negroid 'curly' and Mongoloid 'straight') and travelled 'across India' before heading into Australia.

Most likely that Indonesia was pretty empty except for ancient 'Hominid' species that still lingered around, like the 'Flores' species.


Inferior species, innit.
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Reply #8 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
Aboriginals are in essence a representation of the original and earliest 'Caucasian', before they moved east and then south - 'away' from Europe.

Makes you wonder what it was that drove a large group of people to undertake such a continual (wouldn't have happened in just one generation) journey from Europe, across part of the Middle-East, through India, down through South East Asia and across the Indonesian Islands, Melanesia and finally into Australia!
The fact that there were already more earlier species of Hominids existing in pockets all the way to Flores Island in Indonesia, let alone other 'Sapien' tribes that provided other 'genetic' links when inter-breeding came into it.

The America's were populated by a single 'Tribe' from far northern Siberia - that just shot off across the land-bridge into North America. Across a very harsh and frozen environment during an ice age. That single Tribe ended up populating two continents.
...could explain their weak genetic immunity?  Huh Tongue

But in truth - the strongest 'Gene' pool is the African one (the 'Black' African). Like a Samurai sword folded many times over, the African gene-pool is where all the other races 'originated' from.
Proof is in the San Bushman race, where they have every genetic link that every other race has - but every other races is but a branch to their trunk.

White Race, Brown Race & Yellow Race all came from the Black Man's 'seed'. Wink
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Reply #9 - Sep 4th, 2018 at 10:44pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:16pm:

".....aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed."







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Re: aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with
Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2018 at 10:50pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 4th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Yadda wrote on Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:16pm:

".....aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed."







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Reply #11 - Sep 4th, 2018 at 11:21pm
 
Yadda wrote on Sep 4th, 2018 at 10:50pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 4th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Yadda wrote on Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:16pm:

".....aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with anyone else in the world — or so many scientists believed."







Jewish Aboriginal woman appointed Deputy Vice-Chancellor at Sydney University





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Re: aboriginal Australians did not mix their DNA with
Reply #12 - Sep 5th, 2018 at 7:36am
 
Originally.

The Aboriginals (Black Caucasians - due to 'wavy' hair and other traits) began their journey genetically from the Caucasus Mountain (Armenia) region and travelled across, through India and down through Indonesia, Melanesia and into Australia.
It is believed that this happened 50,000+ years ago, when only more primitive 'hominid' populations were present (Flores Hobbits, etc) and the Mongoloid Indonesians (straight hair) had not arrived, nor the Negroid Melanesians (Curly hair).

So now, it beckons - that the possibility that the entire Aboriginal existence is a 'Con' and they just came here by the 'boatloads', from India ...just a few thousand years ago.
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Reply #13 - Sep 5th, 2018 at 10:15pm
 
Falah claimed there was regular trade across the top end prior to European arrival.
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Reply #14 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 12:04am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
Falah claimed there was regular trade across the top end prior to European arrival.


Macassan traders from Sulewesi used to trade with Arnhem Land indigenous Australians well before the arrival of Europeans on the Australian continent, FD.  They were, in particular looking for trepang (bêche-de-mer, sea cucumber), which they valued as a medicine and as a food.

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At the height of the trepang industry, Makassans ranged thousands of kilometres along Australia's northern coasts, arriving with the north-west monsoon each December. Makassan perahu or praus could carry a crew of thirty members, and Macknight estimated the total number of trepangers arriving each year as about one thousand.[10] The Makassan crews established themselves at various semi-permanent locations on the coast, to boil and dry the trepang before the return voyage home, four months later, to sell their cargo to Chinese merchants.[11] Marege' was the Makassan name for Arnhem land, (meaning literally "Wild Country") from the Cobourg Peninsula to Groote Eylandt in the Gulf of Carpentaria. Kayu Jawa was the name for the fishing grounds in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, from Napier Broome Bay to Cape Leveque. Other important fishing areas included West Papua, Sumbawa, Timor and Selayar. [5] Matthew Flinders in his circumnavigation of Australia in 1803, met a Makassan trepang fleet near present day Nhulunbuy. He communicated at length with a Makassan captain, Pobasso, through his cook, who was also a Malay, and learned of the extent of the trade from this encounter. [6]

Ganter adds: "1,000 Macassans...must have seen a veritable invasion against the fewer than 7,000 British nestled into Sydney Cove and Newcastle."[12] Nicholas Baudin also encountered 26 large perahu off the northern coast of Western Australia in the same year.[13] Ganter states that the British settlements of Fort Dundas and Fort Wellington were established as a result of Phillip Parker King's contact with Makassan trepangers in 1821.[12]

Using Daeng Rangka, the last Makassan trepanger to visit Australia, lived well into the 20th century and the history of his voyages are therefore well documented. He first made the voyage to northern Australia as a young man. He suffered dismasting and several shipwrecks, generally positive but occasionally conflicting relationships with Indigenous Australians, and was the first trepanger to pay the South Australian government (which at the time administered the Northern Territory) for a trepanging licence in 1883, an impost that made the trade less viable.[14] The trade continued to dwindle toward the end of the 19th century, due to the imposition of customs duties and licence fees and probably compounded by overfishing.[5] Using Daeng Rangka commanded the last Makassar perahu, which left Arnhem Land in 1907.

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Reply #15 - Sep 7th, 2018 at 10:58pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Aboriginals are in essence a representation of the original and earliest 'Caucasian', before they moved east and then south - 'away' from Europe.

Makes you wonder what it was that drove a large group of people to undertake such a continual (wouldn't have happened in just one generation) journey from Europe, across part of the Middle-East, through India, down through South East Asia and across the Indonesian Islands, Melanesia and finally into Australia!
The fact that there were already more earlier species of Hominids existing in pockets all the way to Flores Island in Indonesia, let alone other 'Sapien' tribes that provided other 'genetic' links when inter-breeding came into it.

The America's were populated by a single 'Tribe' from far northern Siberia - that just shot off across the land-bridge into North America. Across a very harsh and frozen environment during an ice age. That single Tribe ended up populating two continents.
...could explain their weak genetic immunity?  Huh Tongue

But in truth - the strongest 'Gene' pool is the African one (the 'Black' African). Like a Samurai sword folded many times over, the African gene-pool is where all the other races 'originated' from.
Proof is in the San Bushman race, where they have every genetic link that every other race has - but every other races is but a branch to their trunk.

White Race, Brown Race & Yellow Race all came from the Black Man's 'seed'. Wink


Jesus H Jasin... Where do you get the shyte you type? Are you after Master Light's crown of lunacy after his recent absence? Step into the niche and find your place?

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Reply #16 - Sep 8th, 2018 at 3:54am
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Sep 7th, 2018 at 10:58pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Aboriginals are in essence a representation of the original and earliest 'Caucasian', before they moved east and then south - 'away' from Europe.

Makes you wonder what it was that drove a large group of people to undertake such a continual (wouldn't have happened in just one generation) journey from Europe, across part of the Middle-East, through India, down through South East Asia and across the Indonesian Islands, Melanesia and finally into Australia!
The fact that there were already more earlier species of Hominids existing in pockets all the way to Flores Island in Indonesia, let alone other 'Sapien' tribes that provided other 'genetic' links when inter-breeding came into it.

The America's were populated by a single 'Tribe' from far northern Siberia - that just shot off across the land-bridge into North America. Across a very harsh and frozen environment during an ice age. That single Tribe ended up populating two continents.
...could explain their weak genetic immunity?  Huh Tongue

But in truth - the strongest 'Gene' pool is the African one (the 'Black' African). Like a Samurai sword folded many times over, the African gene-pool is where all the other races 'originated' from.
Proof is in the San Bushman race, where they have every genetic link that every other race has - but every other races is but a branch to their trunk.

White Race, Brown Race & Yellow Race all came from the Black Man's 'seed'. Wink


Jesus H Jasin... Where do you get the shyte you type? Are you after Master Light's crown of lunacy after his recent absence? Step into the niche and find your place?



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