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Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:14am
 
The Australian
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Chris Bowen accuses Malcolm Turnbull of dishonesty over imputations
Bill Shorten, left, and Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen. Picture: AAP
Bill Shorten, left,
Labor treasury spokesman Chris Bowen has accused the Turnbull government of a dishonest scare campaign against Labor’s plan to remove cash refunds on franking credits.

Mr Bowen accused Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull of “lying” about the impact of Labor’s dividend imputation policy by basing his figures on taxable income, rather than taking large amounts of tax free superannuation income into account.

Mr Bowen said Treasurer Scott Morrison had tried to play “the same trick” with Labor’s negative gearing policy.

“We will call this out on every single occasion. Mr Turnbull appears to be so out of touch that he thinks that if you have a very large superannuation balance that don’t pay tax and therefore have a low taxable income, that the government’s priority should be to protect those people,” Mr Bowen said.

“We say when it comes to budget repair, difficult decisions are necessary and concessions that were put in place by John Howard and Peter Costello that are no longer affordable, have to be dealt with.

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“Now the fact of the matter is, taxable income, the data that Mr Turnbull relies on excludes income in the retirement phase. It excludes income from superannuation funds which are tax free or are low taxed.

“The fact of the matter is, that a lot of the income that people receive in retirement is tax free. “By definition people are on low taxable incomes even if they have very significant superannuation balances, very significant indeed.”

Mr Bowen cited analysis from economist Saul Eslake, the Grattan Institute, and Chartered Accountants Australia and New Zealand spokesman Michael Croker which has highlighted that taxable income is not a good indicator of a person’s means or wealth.

“Now of course data released today by Industry Super Funds prepared by a former Treasury costing official shows that 80 per cent of the savings from Labor’s reforms comes from the wealthiest 20 per cent of retirees. 80 per cent of the savings from the wealthiest 20 per cent of retirees. These are the facts,” Mr Bowen said.

“In relation to the money raised from self-managed superannuation, 50 per cent of the money comes from the top 10 per cent of self-managed super funds.

“Of course we’ve seen payouts from the top 1 per cent of self-managed super funds of $83,000 a year in tax refunds from people who haven’t paid tax, which of course is substantially greater than average wages in Australia.

“So I say this to Mr Turnbull: stop your silly scare campaign.”

Asked whether Labor was considering altering the policy to look after low-income people who may be affected, Mr Bowen said Labor stood by its policy.

“It’s a very important policy, it’s a very important reform,” he said.

“Of course under Bill’s leadership we are always looking at ways of helping pensioners. We have opposed the removing of, the lifting of the pension age to 70.

“The government of course threw hundreds of thousands of people off the pension, reduced their pension. We have stood firm with pensioners of course as Bill has said.”


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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:25am
 
LW starts a redundant meaningless Lefty bulldust thread on an existing topic.

Now the muddled mind of good old LW primed with the lying bulldust from his HERO the union hillbilly Bull S. starts denying.

Probably doesn't have any shares.


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Bull S. is attacking the pensioners by making electricity so costly and now he wants to steal their income and give it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds. TREASONOUS!!!

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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:30am
 
juliar wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:25am:
LW starts a redundant meaningless Lefty bulldust thread on an existing topic.

Now the muddled mind of good old LW primed with the lying bulldust from his HERO the union hillbilly Bull S. starts denying.

Probably doesn't have any shares.


https://preview.ibb.co/cz370H/29243914_1933341710040537_4115209093457641472_o.jp...
Bull S. is attacking the pensioners by making electricity so costly and now he wants to steal their income and give it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds. TREASONOUS!!!



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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:37am
 
Fresh faced Labor removing the Howard and Costello pork barreling to help pay off Abort/Damp squibs debt and deficit disaster which is currently at nearly 700 billllllllllllllllion dollars .

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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:39am
 
imputation credits encourage people to invest in our noble corporate sector.
this should and must be encouraged.

why would labor wish to punish this wonderful arrangement
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Reply #5 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:10am
 
Now LW is being naughty as he illegally misquotes another poster.



Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:30am:
juliar wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:25am:
LW starts a redundant meaningless Lefty bulldust thread on an existing topic.

Now the muddled mind of good old LW primed with the lying bulldust from his HERO the union hillbilly Bull S. starts denying.

Probably doesn't have any shares.


https://preview.ibb.co/cz370H/29243914_1933341710040537_4115209093457641472_o.jp...
Bull S. is attacking the pensioners by making electricity so costly and now he wants to steal their income and give it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds. TREASONOUS!!!




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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:12am
 
Aqua, as has been already explained on the OFFICIAL THREAD on this TOPIC, the unions are going broke and want to steal the money from the SMSF's.
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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:51pm
 
Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:14am:
“Now of course data released today by Industry Super Funds prepared by a former Treasury costing official shows that 80 per cent of the savings from Labor’s reforms comes from the wealthiest 20 per cent of retirees. 80 per cent of the savings from the wealthiest 20 per cent of retirees. These are the facts,” Mr Bowen said.



Yes. But they still want to tax the bottom end which is somewhere in the vicinity of 300,000 pensioners.

Good ole Bowen, can't admit to that. Just focus on the top 80%.

His wheels are spinning, getting no traction.

Another thought bubble from Labor.
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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:57pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:51pm:
Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:14am:
“Now of course data released today by Industry Super Funds prepared by a former Treasury costing official shows that 80 per cent of the savings from Labor’s reforms comes from the wealthiest 20 per cent of retirees. 80 per cent of the savings from the wealthiest 20 per cent of retirees. These are the facts,” Mr Bowen said.



Yes. But they still want to tax the bottom end which is somewhere in the vicinity of 300,000 pensioners.

Good ole Bowen, can't admit to that. Just focus on the top 80%.

His wheels are spinning, getting no traction.

Another thought bubble from Labor.


Are you ignoring the part where Labor said they would be compensated
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Reply #9 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:07pm
 
Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Are you ignoring the part where Labor said they would be compensated


Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 7:14am:
Asked whether Labor was considering altering the policy to look after low-income people who may be affected, Mr Bowen said Labor stood by its policy.


There is nothing in your post referencing any planned or inferred change of policy. The policy, as it stands, is deny credits to non-taxpaying individuals.

Until that change of policy is announced you are talking BS again.

Maybe you should read and comprehend what you intend to post.
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Reply #10 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:25pm
 
Bill Shorten has pledged to compensate up to 250,000 pensioners for any dollar they lose under his $59 billion dividend imputation policy as the Coalition, retirees and seniors groups accuse Labor over a "brutal and cruel" threat to their finances.

You were saying Lee  Smiley
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Oh lee where have you gone  Smiley
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Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Oh lee where have you gone  Smiley


Didn't I respond quick enough for your liking? So Sad. Go into the quiet room petal. Wink
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Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:25pm:
Bill Shorten has pledged to compensate up to 250,000 pensioners for any dollar they lose under his $59 billion dividend imputation policy as the Coalition, retirees and seniors groups accuse Labor over a "brutal and cruel" threat to their finances.

You were saying Lee  Smiley


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