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Mar 20th, 2018 at 6:46am
 
Defend this,  Bam.

It reportedly prompted Catholic education bosses in Melbourne to make 30,000 robocalls backing Labor in the Batman byelection, which the party ultimately won in a tight contest with the Greens

Public school lobby use blistering letter to slam Bill Shorten's 'irrational and illogical' promise to Catholics

The peak body for public school parents has slammed Bill Shorten's "irrational and illogical" promise to hand an extra $250 million to Catholic schools, and accused the Labor leader of taking his cues from a handful of powerful Catholic bishops.
In a blistering letter obtained by Fairfax Media, the president of the Australian Council of State School Organisations, Phillip Spratt, said Labor's "spectacular special deal" for the Catholics had shocked public school parents and teachers, and likened it to the corrupting self-interest portrayed in George Orwell's dystopian parody of communism Animal Farm.
Mr Shorten this month told Archbishop of Melbourne Denis Hart Labor stood "shoulder-to-shoulder with the church" on school funding and would give Catholic schools an extra $250 million in the first two years of a Labor government, and billions more over the decade.

It reportedly prompted Catholic education bosses in Melbourne to make 30,000 robocalls backing Labor in the Batman byelection, which the party ultimately won in a tight contest with the Greens.
But the special promise has elicited anger in Labor's traditional public school constituency. In a letter to members and parents, Mr Spratt warned against "irrational and illogical policy in the scrabble for votes" and described Labor's $250 million pledge to Catholic schools as "arbitrary".

"The audacity of this partisan move by the leader of the opposition has astonished many parents, families and staff teams of public schools, as it appears that a small number of Catholic Bishops now hold sway over national party politics and policy," he wrote to members, parents and MPs.
"Funding must be based on true need and not that of entitled want; one can only hope that the Bishops' surplices can accommodate the fiscal gain from what is a spectacular special deal arranged just for them."
Catholic schools claim they are being shortchanged $1.1 billion under Gonski 2.0 because they are transitioning to the new funding formula in six years, rather than the 10 afforded to independent schools.
The Catholic school system was hardly "short of cash", Mr Spratt said, but it was public schools that were accommodating a growing proportion of new enrolments.
"The whole situation reminds me of Animal Farm - George Orwell's dystopian polemic where, after uniting to drive the humans off the farm, some of the farm's animals come to see themselves as being more equal than others; going on to secretly rewrite the agreed rules of the farm on the end of the barn wall to suit their own ends," Mr Spratt wrote.

As the federal body of parents and citizens associations, ACSSO says it speaks for the families of 2.5 million children enrolled in Australian public schools. Mr Spratt, president since 2015, also sits on the Asia Education Foundation Advisory Board and was on the the steering committee of the Safe Schools Coalition.

Labor argues its promise to Catholic schools, revealed in a letter to Archbishop Hart, is nothing new because it simply represents the Catholics' share of its promise to restore the "full Gonski" funding ripped out by the Turnbull government in its so-called Gonski 2.0 model.
A spokesman for Mr Shorten said all schools would be better off under Labor, which would "return every dollar that Turnbull has cut", including for Catholic and government schools.
"Public schools are copping 86 per cent of Turnbull’s cuts," the spokesman said.

"Under Labor, the neediest schools will get the biggest funding increases, in the shortest time. Most of the neediest schools are public schools, so they will get by far the most funding."
Mr Spratt told Fairfax Media Labor should wait for the National School Resourcing Board to review socio-economic status loadings before committing to any more "special deals".
Unions have also been reluctant to endorse Labor's position. Australian Education Union federal president Correna Haythorpe told Fairfax Media on Monday: "We are waiting to see the full details of the ALP's school funding policy before commenting on individual components."
The case for more money for Catholics chools has also gained traction within the Coalition. Former prime minister Tony Abbott dispensed some free advice to Education Minister Simon Birmingham on Monday, claiming Catholic schools would "suffer a big loss in funding" under the current model.
“If the government was smart, we would have a look at our existing policy," Mr Abbott told 2GB radio. "It’s going to make low-fee schools in middle class suburbs almost impossible to run

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Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2018 at 6:57am
 
The catholic church has enough money to fund their own schools. Why the heck does anyone need to give them money?

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Reply #2 - Mar 20th, 2018 at 7:03am
 
Gee won't the Catholic Church puppet Tony Abbott be pleased.

But those in the know know that Bull S.'s lies and bulldust were all aimed at the grotesque grizzled Greenies in Batman.

Now Batman is over expect a whole lot of new lies and bulldust to pour forth from Labor's resident nesting liar bird.

Whatever lies and bulldust Bull S. directed at SA did not have much effect.

The Victorian state election is the next target for Bull S.'s lies and bulldust.

Is it any wonder that Bull S. is now seen all over Australia as a toxic pariah and an unpopular unelectable incompetent liar ?


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Reply #3 - Mar 20th, 2018 at 1:04pm
 
Bam, you've been on since I posted this so I'll assume it's all OK with you. Good to know you're a partisan hack at heart.

Catholics making 30000 robocalls after the promise of billions of dollars in funding for Catholic schools.  Oh dear.


reportedly prompted Catholic education bosses in Melbourne to make 30,000 robocalls backing Labor in the Batman byelection, which the party ultimately won in a tight contest with the Greens
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Reply #4 - Mar 20th, 2018 at 2:32pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 6:57am:
The catholic church has enough money to fund their own schools. Why the heck does anyone need to give them money?

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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2018 at 2:35pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Bam, you've been on since I posted this so I'll assume it's all OK with you. Good to know you're a partisan hack at heart.

Catholics making 30000 robocalls after the promise of billions of dollars in funding for Catholic schools.  Oh dear.


reportedly prompted Catholic education bosses in Melbourne to make 30,000 robocalls backing Labor in the Batman byelection, which the party ultimately won in a tight contest with the Greens




sounds like someone on ozpol when an election is happening..

not sure if anyone cares.. but I have no intentions of voting in any other elections on ozpol....

as for Batman... isnt the church meant to be non political????? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

where did I get that idea from?
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Reply #6 - Mar 20th, 2018 at 3:01pm
 
Chirp chirp chirp Smiley
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Reply #7 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:46am
 
Gordy, stir 'em up.
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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:52am
 
This one reminds me of a hippo's tail furiously thrashing back and forth to propel it's sheet away.

It reportedly prompted Catholic education bosses in Melbourne to make 30,000 robocalls backing Labor in the Batman byelection, which the party ultimately won in a tight contest with the Greens.
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Reply #9 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:03am
 
An Anglican promising an avalance of cash to Catholic Schools! Surely he must be a conservative?
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Reply #10 - Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:06am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 9:03am:
An Anglican promising an avalance of cash to Catholic Schools! Surely he must be a conservative?


And more proof of how big a fraud this guy is.

Shorten was raised Catholic, but converted to Anglicanism before his second marriage – as well as it being his wife's religion, he "had come to disagree with the [Catholic] Church on a number of issues".

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