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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #60 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #61 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

Spot

100% agree

I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case.

NO way medicare should be used to support your poor judgement or life style choices.

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #62 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:42am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

Spot

100% agree

I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case.

NO way medicare should be used to support your poor judgement or life style choices.

It is right now, though.

If you've smoked all your life, have a poor diet, and never exercise you're still eligible to claim Medicare benefits for the illnesses suffered as a result of that lifestyle choice.

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #63 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

Spot

100% agree

I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case.

NO way medicare should be used to support your poor judgement or life style choices.

It is right now, though.

If you've smoked all your life, have a poor diet, and never exercise you're still eligible to claim Medicare benefits for the illnesses suffered as a result of that lifestyle choice.

Yes that could be another topic but forgetting to use contraceptives ...... bit different.
There is also a morning after pill.

People who smoke would probably pay far more through the taxes on cigs no issue there.

You Pompous Butt Dragon

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #64 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:51am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

Spot

100% agree

I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case.

NO way medicare should be used to support your poor judgement or life style choices.

It is right now, though.

If you've smoked all your life, have a poor diet, and never exercise you're still eligible to claim Medicare benefits for the illnesses suffered as a result of that lifestyle choice.

Yes that could be another topic but forgetting to use contraceptives ...... bit different.
There is also a morning after pill.

People who smoke would probably pay far more through the taxes on cigs no issue there.

You Pompous Butt Dragon

I request that you please stop the personal insults.

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #65 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:56am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:51am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

Spot

100% agree

I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case.

NO way medicare should be used to support your poor judgement or life style choices.

It is right now, though.

If you've smoked all your life, have a poor diet, and never exercise you're still eligible to claim Medicare benefits for the illnesses suffered as a result of that lifestyle choice.

Yes that could be another topic but forgetting to use contraceptives ...... bit different.
There is also a morning after pill.

People who smoke would probably pay far more through the taxes on cigs no issue there.

You Pompous Butt Dragon

I request that you please stop the personal insults.

You started you can apologise for the baseless rubbish you posted.

Seems you like random insulting no idea why your upset about ?

You hypocritical nonsense posting drop kick !

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #66 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 9:09am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 6:42am:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

Should abortion be legal in Australia?

On the one hand, there are plenty of contraceptive measures, including the implanon rod which is a minor proceedure performed by a GP and lasts for three years. There's condom's. There's the pill. And if you have a slip up? There's the morning after pill (despite being labelled "morning after" the woman actually has up to 48 hours, or 2 days, to take it).

Given all these things, an unplanned pregnancy is easy to avoid.

The cons of course are that the women who are so stupid, despite the plethora of options open to them, to have an unplanned pregnancy, are precisely the type of women we don't want breeding. Mum and bub's will cost us more in the long term, both monetarily, and likely socially (jails, child protection, welfare, youth justice, etc).

But should your taxes fund this? How do you feel about funding McDrive Through Abortions?

https://youtu.be/ZVOD5D4IArw

There are many other ways that unexpected pregnancies can happen.

Spot

100% agree

I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case.

NO way medicare should be used to support your poor judgement or life style choices.

It is right now, though.

If you've smoked all your life, have a poor diet, and never exercise you're still eligible to claim Medicare benefits for the illnesses suffered as a result of that lifestyle choice.

Yes that could be another topic but forgetting to use contraceptives ...... bit different.
There is also a morning after pill.

People who smoke would probably pay far more through the taxes on cigs no issue there.

You Pompous Butt Dragon

The woman seeking an abortion might have been a smoker all her life.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare? Reply #67 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 9:38am RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:06am: 100% agree I would only support Medicare funded abortion if the pregnancy was a real threat to life (certified) or a result of an official rape case. God help the poor girls who are unofficially raped.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare? Reply #68 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:41am I have to admit I have never been able to decide for or against abortion. There are fair opinions on both sides. However, abortion at the tax-payer's expense is a hard sell. We should pay for the irresponsible choices of others? That does not seem fair.
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Reply #69 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 12:45pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

I have to admit I have never been able to decide for or against abortion. There are fair opinions on both sides. However, abortion at the tax-payer's expense is a hard sell. We should pay for the irresponsible choices of others? That does not seem fair.

We already are.

As I said before:

"If you've smoked all your life, have a poor diet, are a heavy drinker, and never exercise you're still eligible to claim Medicare benefits for the illnesses suffered as a result of those lifestyle choices."

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Reply #70 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:18pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

I have to admit I have never been able to decide for or against abortion. There are fair opinions on both sides. However, abortion at the tax-payer's expense is a hard sell. We should pay for the irresponsible choices of others? That does not seem fair.

Those others are paying. They pay taxes.

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Reply #71 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 2:21pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

I have to admit I have never been able to decide for or against abortion. There are fair opinions on both sides. However, abortion at the tax-payer's expense is a hard sell. We should pay for the irresponsible choices of others? That does not seem fair.

Somebody here pointed out that if the taxpayer doesn't pay for the unwanted pregnancies, then it could be that in later years they'll be funding a lot more by way of policing, court appearances, alcoholism, jail-time, dysfunctional families, etc.

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Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare?
Reply #72 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:07pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

I have to admit I have never been able to decide for or against abortion. There are fair opinions on both sides. However, abortion at the tax-payer's expense is a hard sell. We should pay for the irresponsible choices of others? That does not seem fair.

Somebody here pointed out that if the taxpayer doesn't pay for the unwanted pregnancies, then it could be that in later years they'll be funding a lot more by way of policing, court appearances, alcoholism, jail-time, dysfunctional families, etc.

That would be me.

We should pay those on welfare to have terminations. Fair dinkum.

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Reply #73 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:23pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:07pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:41am:

I have to admit I have never been able to decide for or against abortion. There are fair opinions on both sides. However, abortion at the tax-payer's expense is a hard sell. We should pay for the irresponsible choices of others? That does not seem fair.

Somebody here pointed out that if the taxpayer doesn't pay for the unwanted pregnancies, then it could be that in later years they'll be funding a lot more by way of policing, court appearances, alcoholism, jail-time, dysfunctional families, etc.

That would be me.

We should pay those on welfare to have terminations. Fair dinkum.

Damn straight.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Should abortion be legal &/or funded by medicare? Reply #74 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 9:41pm Abortion for life style is murder....
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Question: Should abortion be legal in Australia?
Yes 10 (66.7%) No 2 (13.3%) Only in certain circumstances 3 (20.0%) Total votes: 15 « Created by: Mistress Nicole on: Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:32pm »