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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March Reply #15 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 1:51pm I have the deepest respect for returned soldiers- my partner had a 13 year deployment in Bosnia and Afghanistan in the military and the horrors of war are nothing to laugh at or about- that one day of the year is their rememberance day- it should respected on every level
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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #16 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 4:23pm

Agnes wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Military should stick to playing with weapons.

Leave the music to the Music industry.

One little kid on street during an Anzac march:
"Daddy - did they scare off the enemy with the sound of Bagpipes?" Grin

Your ignorance is truly astounding.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #17 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 7:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Military should stick to playing with weapons.

Leave the music to the Music industry.

One little kid on street during an Anzac march:
"Daddy - did they scare off the enemy with the sound of Bagpipes?" Grin

Your ignorance is truly astounding.

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What instrument did you play in the military, Brian?

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #18 - Mar 28^th, 2018 at 11:53pm

Frank wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 7:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Military should stick to playing with weapons.

Leave the music to the Music industry.

One little kid on street during an Anzac march:
"Daddy - did they scare off the enemy with the sound of Bagpipes?" Grin

Your ignorance is truly astounding.

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What instrument did you play in the military, Brian?

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #19 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 7:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 11:53pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 7:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Military should stick to playing with weapons.

Leave the music to the Music industry.

One little kid on street during an Anzac march:
"Daddy - did they scare off the enemy with the sound of Bagpipes?" Grin

Your ignorance is truly astounding.

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What instrument did you play in the military, Brian?

Your ignorance is truly astounding. Roll Eyes

Were you the bandmaster? (playing beneath you?)

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #20 - Mar 30^th, 2018 at 12:02am

Frank wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 7:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 11:53pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 7:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

Agnes wrote on Mar 28^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:53pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

Military should stick to playing with weapons.

Leave the music to the Music industry.

One little kid on street during an Anzac march:
"Daddy - did they scare off the enemy with the sound of Bagpipes?" Grin

Your ignorance is truly astounding.

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What instrument did you play in the military, Brian?

Your ignorance is truly astounding. Roll Eyes

Were you the bandmaster? (playing beneath you?)

Your ignorance is absolutely truly astounding. Roll Eyes

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #21 - Apr 1^st, 2018 at 9:13am

Whilst removing the bands, vintage cars and not allowing children to march may outrage some, I am more "outraged" that the RSL still has a major part to do with this. I realise the RSL is supposed to be the Organisation that looks after Veterans but looking at circumstances in QLD, NSW, VIC, SA and also I find, TAS where Directors, Presidents and a host of Management Staff have helped themselves to the RSL Coffers to fund their own lifestyle, I believe the RSL should just be allowed to whither and die.

Last year, over 84 Veterans committed suicide, veterans are living rough on the street, RSL Age Care centres are running broke and there is little to no help from this Organisation because the cry is that "there is no funds available"

The RSL has lost it's right to represent Veterans - I hate to admit this, but even DVA are now doing a better job - and the RSL is no longer a driving force in anything to do with the Services. The RSL should lose its charity status, rename itself to something else that is not affiliated with anything to do with Defence and Veterans and just become a social club paying taxes and fees like all other pubs, clubs and hotels. The Government could then feed that money back into Defence care and look after Veterans.

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Reply #22 - Apr 3^rd, 2018 at 12:50am

Vic wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 9:13am:

Whilst removing the bands, vintage cars and not allowing children to march may outrage some, I am more "outraged" that the RSL still has a major part to do with this. I realise the RSL is supposed to be the Organisation that looks after Veterans but looking at circumstances in QLD, NSW, VIC, SA and also I find, TAS where Directors, Presidents and a host of Management Staff have helped themselves to the RSL Coffers to fund their own lifestyle, I believe the RSL should just be allowed to whither and die.

Last year, over 84 Veterans committed suicide, veterans are living rough on the street, RSL Age Care centres are running broke and there is little to no help from this Organisation because the cry is that "there is no funds available"

The RSL has lost it's right to represent Veterans - I hate to admit this, but even DVA are now doing a better job - and the RSL is no longer a driving force in anything to do with the Services. The RSL should lose its charity status, rename itself to something else that is not affiliated with anything to do with Defence and Veterans and just become a social club paying taxes and fees like all other pubs, clubs and hotels. The Government could then feed that money back into Defence care and look after Veterans.

I think the RSL dropped the ball way back with the Viet Nam Vets and I remember even in my time, being told as a young Airman that I was not allowed in the Wagga RSL.

There are quite a few organisations around the place now looking after the young Diggers and you are right the RSL has maybe not been there to help when they really need. They could do better, but they need to clean up their own mess before they can help anyone else.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #23 - Apr 3^rd, 2018 at 10:38pm

The RSL blotted it's copybook over it's treatment of the Vietnam Veterans. However, I've seen one RSL branch which was destroyed by the Vietnam Veterans after they took it over. It cuts both ways, neither side has many bouquets they can hold IMHO.

I have never liked the RSL because of it's (usually) reactionary leadership. I've never been a member nor do I ever think I will be. It is an organisation which is slowly dying off as it's membership ages and they die off.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #24 - Apr 4^th, 2018 at 10:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2018 at 10:38pm:

The RSL blotted it's copybook over it's treatment of the Vietnam Veterans. However, I've seen one RSL branch which was destroyed by the Vietnam Veterans after they took it over. It cuts both ways, neither side has many bouquets they can hold IMHO.

I have never liked the RSL because of it's (usually) reactionary leadership. I've never been a member nor do I ever think I will be. It is an organisation which is slowly dying off as it's membership ages and they die off.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #25 - Apr 5^th, 2018 at 3:21pm

Frank wrote on Apr 4^th, 2018 at 10:59pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2018 at 10:38pm:

The RSL blotted it's copybook over it's treatment of the Vietnam Veterans. However, I've seen one RSL branch which was destroyed by the Vietnam Veterans after they took it over. It cuts both ways, neither side has many bouquets they can hold IMHO.

I have never liked the RSL because of it's (usually) reactionary leadership. I've never been a member nor do I ever think I will be. It is an organisation which is slowly dying off as it's membership ages and they die off.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #26 - Apr 24^th, 2018 at 11:28pm

Vic wrote on Apr 1^st, 2018 at 9:13am:

Whilst removing the bands, vintage cars and not allowing children to march may outrage some, I am more "outraged" that the RSL still has a major part to do with this. I realise the RSL is supposed to be the Organisation that looks after Veterans but looking at circumstances in QLD, NSW, VIC, SA and also I find, TAS where Directors, Presidents and a host of Management Staff have helped themselves to the RSL Coffers to fund their own lifestyle, I believe the RSL should just be allowed to whither and die.

Last year, over 84 Veterans committed suicide, veterans are living rough on the street, RSL Age Care centres are running broke and there is little to no help from this Organisation because the cry is that "there is no funds available"

The RSL has lost it's right to represent Veterans - I hate to admit this, but even DVA are now doing a better job - and the RSL is no longer a driving force in anything to do with the Services. The RSL should lose its charity status, rename itself to something else that is not affiliated with anything to do with Defence and Veterans and just become a social club paying taxes and fees like all other pubs, clubs and hotels. The Government could then feed that money back into Defence care and look after Veterans.

Can't agree, Vic - it just needs a few good men and women to take over the reins, men and women of honour.

For the others - I went to an RSL with my father - a WW II Vet - and was told that I might not be allowed in.... I was seven months out of a combat posting....

As for those robbing the till - they should be hung.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #27 - Apr 24^th, 2018 at 11:39pm

Why is it that the Military need to rely on Politics, Entertainment venues and other 'non-military' efforts to ...look after them?
Can't the Military look after their own?

Hell, shouldn't the 'green' Military be out helping the Conservationists protect the animals of the world from annihilation ...rather than 'protect' Politics & Religion???

Australian Military sounds like Cops in green outfits, more like it.

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Re: Veterans outraged - bands cut from Anzac Day March
Reply #28 - Apr 25^th, 2018 at 1:10am

Jasin wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 11:39pm:

Why is it that the Military need to rely on Politics, Entertainment venues and other 'non-military' efforts to ...look after them?
Can't the Military look after their own?

Hell, shouldn't the 'green' Military be out helping the Conservationists protect the animals of the world from annihilation ...rather than 'protect' Politics & Religion???

Australian Military sounds like Cops in green outfits, more like it.

It is the duty and care of the government to 'look after the military' - they promised as such in the contract.

Go stand a watch - then we'll talk....

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