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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: the silence is deafening.. Reply #15 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:57am Gordon wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:54am: I'm happy for this thread to remain here from the mouth of the bossman gordon.. what about thread tampering gordon??... does anyone else find this topic not EXTREME...enough for EXTREME? just curious!
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Reply #16 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:01am

http://www.theweek.co.uk/checked-out/89629/the-truth-about-farm-murders-in-south...

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Thousands of white farmers took to the streets throughout South Africa last month to protest a spate of deadly attacks in rural communities.

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Protesters claim that farmers are much more likely to be murdered than the average South African - and that many of the brutal attacks are racially motivated.

There is a “popular narrative that the country’s white farming minority is under siege”, says the Mail and Guardian.

The high rate of murders on farms has been used by many “as evidence that South Africa’s white minority is facing victimisation, oppression, and possibly genocide”, the newspaper adds.

But what is the real story behind this highly politicised debate?

another pov on this story-

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Re: the silence is deafening..
Reply #17 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:02am

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:57am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:54am:

I'm happy for this thread to remain here

from the mouth of the bossman gordon..

what about thread tampering gordon??... Wink

does anyone else find this topic not EXTREME...enough for EXTREME?

just curious!

What sort of thread tampering?

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Reply #18 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:11am

Agnes wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:01am:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/checked-out/89629/the-truth-about-farm-murders-in-south...

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Thousands of white farmers took to the streets throughout South Africa last month to protest a spate of deadly attacks in rural communities.

SEE RELATED
South Africans call for apartheid flag ban
Protesters claim that farmers are much more likely to be murdered than the average South African - and that many of the brutal attacks are racially motivated.

There is a “popular narrative that the country’s white farming minority is under siege”, says the Mail and Guardian.

The high rate of murders on farms has been used by many “as evidence that South Africa’s white minority is facing victimisation, oppression, and possibly genocide”, the newspaper adds.

But what is the real story behind this highly politicised debate?

the article simply states that there are no reliable statistics available. Im sure the white people under seige and being murdered in South Africa can take heart in that theres probably no issue because a reliable statistician isnt available, probably because hes been murdered for being white.

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Reply #19 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:02am:

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:57am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:54am:

I'm happy for this thread to remain here

from the mouth of the bossman gordon..

what about thread tampering gordon??... Wink

does anyone else find this topic not EXTREME...enough for EXTREME?

just curious!

What sort of thread tampering?

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Reply #20 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:22am

rhino wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

Agnes wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:01am:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/checked-out/89629/the-truth-about-farm-murders-in-south...

[quote]
Thousands of white farmers took to the streets throughout South Africa last month to protest a spate of deadly attacks in rural communities.

SEE RELATED
South Africans call for apartheid flag ban
Protesters claim that farmers are much more likely to be murdered than the average South African - and that many of the brutal attacks are racially motivated.

There is a “popular narrative that the country’s white farming minority is under siege”, says the Mail and Guardian.

The high rate of murders on farms has been used by many “as evidence that South Africa’s white minority is facing victimisation, oppression, and possibly genocide”, the newspaper adds.

But what is the real story behind this highly politicised debate?

the article simply states that there are no reliable statistics available. Im sure the white people under seige and being murdered in South Africa can take heart in that theres probably no issue because a reliable statistician isnt available, probably because hes been murdered for being white.

yes and the meantime they are still being subjected to this horror-daily Undecided

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Reply #21 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:24am

Agnes wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:02am:

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:57am:

Gordon wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:54am:

I'm happy for this thread to remain here

from the mouth of the bossman gordon..

what about thread tampering gordon??... Wink

does anyone else find this topic not EXTREME...enough for EXTREME?

just curious!

What sort of thread tampering?

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Reply #22 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:21pm

rhino wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

Agnes wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:01am:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/checked-out/89629/the-truth-about-farm-murders-in-south...

[quote]
Thousands of white farmers took to the streets throughout South Africa last month to protest a spate of deadly attacks in rural communities.

SEE RELATED
South Africans call for apartheid flag ban
Protesters claim that farmers are much more likely to be murdered than the average South African - and that many of the brutal attacks are racially motivated.

There is a “popular narrative that the country’s white farming minority is under siege”, says the Mail and Guardian.

The high rate of murders on farms has been used by many “as evidence that South Africa’s white minority is facing victimisation, oppression, and possibly genocide”, the newspaper adds.

But what is the real story behind this highly politicised debate?

the article simply states that there are no reliable statistics available. Im sure the white people under seige and being murdered in South Africa can take heart in that theres probably no issue because a reliable statistician isnt available, probably because hes been murdered for being white.

yes I think when you get two sides to ANY story.. we should discuss it in a debating way .. non aggressive if you get my meaning.

thats why I would like to see gandalf reply..

we tend to read things from our own point of view on something......or at least I think I do...and by doing that we have already judged the reply we will be making......in this case I am very much on the "victims" side I dont live there never have so have only news reports to go on...I am almost sure the black pop have a huge grievance I dont think for one moment whitey did everything right....and for sure a bloody lot wrong....however I am mindful of Nelson Mandela and I believe he wanted the balance to be fair and non violent........perhaps its not as drastic as we are told........then again....lets hear from the other side...not just telling us oh thats all garbage they can leave as and when they want.... without a penny to their names.... Roll Eyes

someone is not telling the truth..

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Reply #23 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:24pm

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:55am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:42am:

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Do we hear a peep from Peter Dutton

oops, someone hasn't been paying attention.

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South Africa has dismissed allegations its white farmers are "persecuted" after an Australian minister said they needed help from a "civilised" country.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said he was exploring giving South Africa's white farmers access to fast-track visas on humanitarian grounds.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43403408

oh dear.. gandalf so who do you believe ???

I believe Peter Dutton made a "peep" about it.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: the silence is deafening.. Reply #24 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:27pm This won't be another Zimbabwe . The whities have millions of people and run the military. This is going to be a bloody civil war.
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cods

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Reply #25 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:29pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:24pm:

cods wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:55am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:42am:

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Do we hear a peep from Peter Dutton

oops, someone hasn't been paying attention.

Quote:

South Africa has dismissed allegations its white farmers are "persecuted" after an Australian minister said they needed help from a "civilised" country.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton said he was exploring giving South Africa's white farmers access to fast-track visas on humanitarian grounds.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43403408

oh dear.. gandalf so who do you believe ???

I believe Peter Dutton made a "peep" about it.

he did.. but you posted a comment from the Sth African govt that contradicts everything we are being told..

I thought you may explain what you believe to be the real story???>...

at least the govt here has made a move at last....but I havent seen anything from the Un or Human Rights have you?

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: the silence is deafening.. Reply #26 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 1:58pm I know people who live in Sth Africa and it is a nightmare for the whites. They are being targeted, not just by criminals but the government.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: the silence is deafening.. Reply #27 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 1:59pm Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:27pm: This won't be another Zimbabwe . The whities have millions of people and run the military. This is going to be a bloody civil war. I can see partition happening.
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Reply #28 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:27pm:

This won't be another Zimbabwe . The whities have millions of people and run the military. This is going to be a bloody civil war.

how do you know this??? from news items the white farmers are terrified....I dont believe that... the blacks out number whites by far..and they are ruthless.

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Agnes Gold Member Offline fish dinner Posts: 6081 Bedford Park rnd	Re: the silence is deafening.. Reply #29 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:44pm lucky the blacks don't also run the military then
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