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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #30 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:02am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 10:06pm:

Meanwhile people with degrees are slinging burgers at Macfries and Hungry Jills....

Maybe certain degrees and for how long ?

This is the thing I seem to be the only one pointing out minimum wage jobs are very transient for most. Why would you hang around in a minimum pay job unless you have capability issues which would be the minority.

In some areas minimum wage might be a living wage in most I assume it would not will never be ..... with or without the $50 the dodgy unions are asking for.
Its called minimum wage for a reason

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Reply #31 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:04am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:02am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 10:06pm:

Meanwhile people with degrees are slinging burgers at Macfries and Hungry Jills....

Maybe certain degrees and for how long ?

This is the thing I seem to be the only one pointing out minimum wage jobs are very transient for most. Why would you hang around in a minimum pay job unless you have capability issues which would be the minority.

In some areas minimum wage might be a living wage in most I assume it would not will never be ..... with or without the $50 the dodgy unions are asking for.
Its called minimum wage for a reason

In a lot of the tourist places like cairns, whitsundays, and the GC, that is pretty much all there is, crappy tourism jobs.

When your state government is destroy regional jobs and their greenie master are talking up low paying tourism jobs, it really narrows your options in life.

While I live in regional QLD, I haven't worked there for nearly 5 years and not by choice either. We have a massively incompetent state government who focuses solely on providing public service jobs in brisbane and incapable of anything else.

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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #32 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:08am

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 12:59pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 9:52am:

But isn't this the labor/green dream, no mining, no construction, no manufacturing, tourism, retail and entry level services positions all on minimum wage is what they want for all of us.

Every time those socialist clowns harp on about the 65 000 tourism jobs support by the GBR, that is 65 000 people on minimum wage barely able to pay their bills.

No-one wants to to do these sh1t jobs, mainly because poverty in never an aspirational goal for anyone, so you can thank one bill shorten for doing his best to make these the only jobs left.

They are dull jobs for unqualified people, many doing them are also attending uni or other ...... there would be a smaller % which it would be a job for life.

Either way arbitrarily raising the minimum wage just ads costs and may impact employment growth. It has to be done in a sustainable way !

Well shorten and puddle duck are working hard to destroy our mining and construction jobs, so no matter what qualifications you have, you'll be cleaning toilets and washing dishes as that is about all we will have thanks to their belief in low paying tourism jobs. Angry

No more than the LNP have ... with their firesale sell offs to foreign nationals.

Most of QLD assets were sold off by Disaster Anna 1 and that fkkwit Beattie. And they were kind enough to sell almost everything as well as leave a massive debt.

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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #33 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:05am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:04am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:02am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 10:06pm:

Meanwhile people with degrees are slinging burgers at Macfries and Hungry Jills....

Maybe certain degrees and for how long ?

This is the thing I seem to be the only one pointing out minimum wage jobs are very transient for most. Why would you hang around in a minimum pay job unless you have capability issues which would be the minority.

In some areas minimum wage might be a living wage in most I assume it would not will never be ..... with or without the $50 the dodgy unions are asking for.
Its called minimum wage for a reason

In a lot of the tourist places like cairns, whitsundays, and the GC, that is pretty much all there is, crappy tourism jobs.

When your state government is destroy regional jobs and their greenie master are talking up low paying tourism jobs, it really narrows your options in life.

While I live in regional QLD, I haven't worked there for nearly 5 years and not by choice either. We have a massively incompetent state government who focuses solely on providing public service jobs in brisbane and incapable of anything else.

Sure there are many low paid jobs in tourism but there are high paid jobs, was up at Hartley's croc farm a few weeks back they seem to have smallish crocs there but the guys handling them would not be minimum wages, the lady at the main counter might be.

Yes your right if BS Shorten and the Arrogant greenies are going to appose Adani regardless of merit then sure the signs are not good for the future if this grub becomes PM !

Why should a government or opposition oppose a development on financial grounds ?
BS Shorten has been caught in a big loop of hypocrisy on this, sure the banks are not too keen on this project and the bad press the ALP is now whipping up really does not help ! Funny BS Shorten loved the project a while ago.

I prefer governments don't stick their nose in, if it makes sense investors / lenders will go in...... if not they won't ....... other than subsidies the government or opposition should not comment. Even if they offer subsidies they are usually contingent on the project progressing !

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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #34 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:07am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:08am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 12:59pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 9:52am:

But isn't this the labor/green dream, no mining, no construction, no manufacturing, tourism, retail and entry level services positions all on minimum wage is what they want for all of us.

Every time those socialist clowns harp on about the 65 000 tourism jobs support by the GBR, that is 65 000 people on minimum wage barely able to pay their bills.

No-one wants to to do these sh1t jobs, mainly because poverty in never an aspirational goal for anyone, so you can thank one bill shorten for doing his best to make these the only jobs left.

They are dull jobs for unqualified people, many doing them are also attending uni or other ...... there would be a smaller % which it would be a job for life.

Either way arbitrarily raising the minimum wage just ads costs and may impact employment growth. It has to be done in a sustainable way !

Well shorten and puddle duck are working hard to destroy our mining and construction jobs, so no matter what qualifications you have, you'll be cleaning toilets and washing dishes as that is about all we will have thanks to their belief in low paying tourism jobs. Angry

No more than the LNP have ... with their firesale sell offs to foreign nationals.

Most of QLD assets were sold off by Disaster Anna 1 and that fkkwit Beattie. And they were kind enough to sell almost everything as well as leave a massive debt.

Beattie in his new gig is really keen on the Cronulla Hawks

Loves those St George Muffin Biters or those Manly Turtles

The guy has not changed he is still clueless.

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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #35 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:25pm

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:08am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 12:59pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 9:52am:

But isn't this the labor/green dream, no mining, no construction, no manufacturing, tourism, retail and entry level services positions all on minimum wage is what they want for all of us.

Every time those socialist clowns harp on about the 65 000 tourism jobs support by the GBR, that is 65 000 people on minimum wage barely able to pay their bills.

No-one wants to to do these sh1t jobs, mainly because poverty in never an aspirational goal for anyone, so you can thank one bill shorten for doing his best to make these the only jobs left.

They are dull jobs for unqualified people, many doing them are also attending uni or other ...... there would be a smaller % which it would be a job for life.

Either way arbitrarily raising the minimum wage just ads costs and may impact employment growth. It has to be done in a sustainable way !

Well shorten and puddle duck are working hard to destroy our mining and construction jobs, so no matter what qualifications you have, you'll be cleaning toilets and washing dishes as that is about all we will have thanks to their belief in low paying tourism jobs. Angry

No more than the LNP have ... with their firesale sell offs to foreign nationals.

Most of QLD assets were sold off by Disaster Anna 1 and that fkkwit Beattie. And they were kind enough to sell almost everything as well as leave a massive debt.

And what did that get her?

And what did it get Cando Campbell Soup who wanted to sell off more?

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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #36 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:28pm

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:04am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:02am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 10:06pm:

Meanwhile people with degrees are slinging burgers at Macfries and Hungry Jills....

Maybe certain degrees and for how long ?

This is the thing I seem to be the only one pointing out minimum wage jobs are very transient for most. Why would you hang around in a minimum pay job unless you have capability issues which would be the minority.

In some areas minimum wage might be a living wage in most I assume it would not will never be ..... with or without the $50 the dodgy unions are asking for.
Its called minimum wage for a reason

In a lot of the tourist places like cairns, whitsundays, and the GC, that is pretty much all there is, crappy tourism jobs.

When your state government is destroy regional jobs and their greenie master are talking up low paying tourism jobs, it really narrows your options in life.

While I live in regional QLD, I haven't worked there for nearly 5 years and not by choice either. We have a massively incompetent state government who focuses solely on providing public service jobs in brisbane and incapable of anything else.

The LNP didn't regionalise anything either ... in fact they cut more services to regional QLDers.

Slash & burn ... L oot N P illage.

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Re: Retailers Demand Zero Pay Rise For Lowest Paid
Reply #37 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 8:01am

Gnads wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:04am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:02am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 10:06pm:

Meanwhile people with degrees are slinging burgers at Macfries and Hungry Jills....

Maybe certain degrees and for how long ?

This is the thing I seem to be the only one pointing out minimum wage jobs are very transient for most. Why would you hang around in a minimum pay job unless you have capability issues which would be the minority.

In some areas minimum wage might be a living wage in most I assume it would not will never be ..... with or without the $50 the dodgy unions are asking for.
Its called minimum wage for a reason

In a lot of the tourist places like cairns, whitsundays, and the GC, that is pretty much all there is, crappy tourism jobs.

When your state government is destroy regional jobs and their greenie master are talking up low paying tourism jobs, it really narrows your options in life.

While I live in regional QLD, I haven't worked there for nearly 5 years and not by choice either. We have a massively incompetent state government who focuses solely on providing public service jobs in brisbane and incapable of anything else.

The LNP didn't regionalise anything either ... in fact they cut more services to regional QLDers.

Slash & burn ... L oot N P illage.

Yes it is difficult to spend up big when the previous party has sold everything spent all that money as well as racked up a massive debt.

There is still no option but to slash and burn to pay off that massive labor debt, something puddle is ignoring and hoping will magically go away.

Here a outrageous idea for all socialists to consider, stop spending other people's money beyond your means.

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