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Slow motion genocide of Christians
Mar 13^th, 2018 at 10:47am

Iraqi Archbishop Bashar Warda made the following observation during a recent speech: “Having faced for 1,400 years the slow-motion genocide that began long before the ongoing ISIS genocide today, the time for excusing this inhuman behavior and its causes is long since passed.”

That Muslims have cleansed non-Muslim peoples by the sword since the seventh century to the present is of course factually well-documented. But what of the more subtle “slow-motion genocide”? How does that work? The answer is connected to another question: Why did so many non-Muslims become Muslim in the first place?

Many modern day Muslims and Western apologists claim that the ancestors of today’s 1.5 billion Muslims converted to Islam due to its intrinsic appeal; that the modern day coercion and persecution committed by the Islamic State and others is an aberration.

Conversely, many Muslim and non-Muslim historical records make clear that most people embraced Islam, not out of sincere faith, but for a myriad of reasons—from converting in order to enjoy the boons of being on the “winning team” to converting in order to evade the dooms of being on the “losing team.”

Because well documented facts have little influence on the modern West’s ahistorical sense of reality, happily the exercise of common sense validates what history records: the Islamic world is built atop, not so much the physical genocide of infidels, but the spiritual and cultural genocide of their identity. This killing of two birds with one stone was always more advantageous for Islam, for while the non-Muslim’s former religious/cultural identity is purged, his body remains to strengthen the ranks of Islam.

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Reply #1 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 11:33am

bogarde73,

For the average Joe & Jane, living in the West today, such accusations are simply more slander of their moslem fellow citizens, and of their peaceful faith.

"If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them...."

Then i will bless your nation.

"But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;
And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments...."

I will destroy your nation, AT THE HAND OF YOU ENEMIES.

Leviticus 26

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #2 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:09pm Then they will have to learn the hard way.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #3 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #4 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 1:01pm These situations make me think of the song Vincent - they did not listen then, perhaps they never will.
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Reply #5 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 2:39pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 1:01pm:

These situations make me think of the song Vincent - they did not listen then, perhaps they never will.

We don't live in a sane world today, bogarde.

Many honest people alive today, have come to realise that.

But they don't know how to get through the 'brick wall' of unreason which has and is, confronting them.
.....the 'brick wall' of the Politically Correct attitude, that has infected so many of their fellow human beings.

We [mankind] don't intentionally do this, but our poor choices [if grievous enough] will always bring hell down upon our own heads.

The truth is incontrovertible.
Malice may attack it.
Ignorance may deride it.
But in the end, there it is.
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"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth."
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"When truth cannot make itself known in words, it will make itself known in deeds."
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As individuals, we always have a choice. ....even Joe & Jane Citizen too.

And i believe that i have embraced a 'right' path [it is, for me].

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1454219198/4#4

IMAGE.....

Gaza devastation.

The Palestinians 'brought' this consequence to their own door, by their own choices.

We are all 'buyers', in this life.

"Let the buyer beware."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47460 At my desk.	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 7:24pm Islam employs a slavery/rape and pillage complex to encourage people to 'freely' convert to Islam. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1330835332 http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#The_slavery_ratchet http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#The_sex_ratchet
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92373 Gender:	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #7 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm: The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European. Oh? The Tutsis are Christian. The Bosnians are European. It is s jolly world, no?
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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #8 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #9 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:51am

freediver wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 7:24pm:

Islam employs a slavery/rape and pillage complex to encourage people to 'freely' convert to Islam.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1330835332

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#The_slavery_ratchet

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#The_sex_ratchet

Do you have any evidence of that? You just posted your own views.

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #10 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:52am

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

That's right, dear. It had something to do with genocide.

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #11 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:54am

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:52am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

That's right, dear. It had something to do with genocide.

Blame tribalism for that one.

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #12 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:54am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:52am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

That's right, dear. It had something to do with genocide.

Blame tribalism for that one.

You're supposed to blame Islam.

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Reply #13 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:14pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 12:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:54am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:52am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

That's right, dear. It had something to do with genocide.

Blame tribalism for that one.

You're supposed to blame Islam.

I do blame Islam for a lot of what's going on with minority persecution around the world. It's just a fact. Muslim majority countries treat their minorities abysmally.

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #14 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #15 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

which Christian priests?

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #16 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 5:55pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

which Christian priests?

Hutu ones, Hammer, who else?

Serbian ones, Hammer, who else?

Tsk, tsk, stop being an apologist for Christian atrocities. Roll Eyes

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #17 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

which Christian priests?

Hutu ones, Hammer, who else?

Serbian ones, Hammer, who else?

Tsk, tsk, stop being an apologist for Christian atrocities. Roll Eyes

A sure plenty of people were flapping their mouths off regarding these instances but the Rwanda thing was mostly about tribal differences. Mainly money, social status and power. Not everything is about religion.

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Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians
Reply #18 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:14pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

which Christian priests?

Hutu ones, Hammer, who else?

Serbian ones, Hammer, who else?

Tsk, tsk, stop being an apologist for Christian atrocities. Roll Eyes

A sure plenty of people were flapping their mouths off regarding these instances but the Rwanda thing was mostly about tribal differences. Mainly money, social status and power. Not everything is about religion.

When Christian priests, preach genocide, Hammer it is reprehensible. You are making excuses for Christian atrocities, committed by Christians in Rwanda and the Balkans. So much for the supposed "message of love" that Christ supposedly taught his believers, hey? Afterall, you believe that anything is OK because of your Racism and Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

I wonder where is Moses? He should be condemning the Christian Hutus of Rwanda but he remains silent, like a true apologist. Tsk, tsk, Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:32pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

Hutu priests - what 'race' did they want exterminated, bozo?

Serbians - what race were they after?

See, the more you talk about the shite you invent and only half comprehend, the more you look like the bumbling prat you are.

Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, Bwian.

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Reply #20 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:49pm

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

Hutu priests - what 'race' did they want exterminated, bozo?

Tutsis

Quote:

Serbians - what race were they after?

Bosnians, Croats, Kosovos.

[more pointless ad hominem debate deleted 'cause I for one am fed up reading it, Soren.]

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Reply #21 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 7:08pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 7:24pm:

Islam employs a slavery/rape and pillage complex to encourage people to 'freely' convert to Islam.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1330835332

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#The_slavery_ratchet

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#The_sex_ratchet

Do you have any evidence of that? You just posted your own views.

Historically, female slaves outnumbered male ones 2:1. You can also check out Abu's ideas about the right to have sex with slaves, and how the offspring are Muslims and the father's ultimate responsibility.

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Reply #22 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 7:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

which Christian priests?

Hutu ones, Hammer, who else?

Serbian ones, Hammer, who else?

Tsk, tsk, stop being an apologist for Christian atrocities. Roll Eyes

Brian also recently claimed that Christian terrorists 'often' quote some particular verses from the NT to justify their terrorism. He gave the same idiotic response when I asked which ones. He is yet to produce a single example.

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Reply #23 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

Hutu priests - what 'race' did they want exterminated, bozo?

Tutsis

Quote:

Serbians - what race were they after?

Bosnians, Croats, Kosovos.

[more pointless ad hominem debate deleted 'cause I for one am fed up reading it, Soren.]

Considering there are no races, how do you explain the 'racial differences' between Hutus and Tutsies, Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Kosovars?

You are a sad old idiot, Bwian, mentally limping before our very eyes.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47460 At my desk.	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #24 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:14pm Quote: Considering there are no races, how do you explain the 'racial differences' between Hutus and Tutsies According to Jared Diamond (I think), there are none. It was effectively an invented race.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #25 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:23pm OK I'll bite. What are the RACIAL differences between Hutus and Tutsies?
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Reply #26 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:23pm

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

Hutu priests - what 'race' did they want exterminated, bozo?

Tutsis

Quote:

Serbians - what race were they after?

Bosnians, Croats, Kosovos.

[more pointless ad hominem debate deleted 'cause I for one am fed up reading it, Soren.]

Considering there are no races, how do you explain the 'racial differences' between Hutus and Tutsies, Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Kosovars?

Correlation?

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Reply #27 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:57pm

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:14pm:

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Considering there are no races, how do you explain the 'racial differences' between Hutus and Tutsies

According to Jared Diamond (I think), there are none. It was effectively an invented race.

That's GOTTA BE wacist!

No wacist dimension to black Africans exterminating other black Africans?? It MUST be somehow white guilt!!
Bwian wouldn't have it any other way. Nor the Paki arse bandit, sniffing your trousers as we speak.

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Reply #28 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 8:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 6:32pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

Hutu priests - what 'race' did they want exterminated, bozo?

Tutsis

Quote:

Serbians - what race were they after?

Bosnians, Croats, Kosovos.

[more pointless ad hominem debate deleted 'cause I for one am fed up reading it, Soren.]

Considering there are no races, how do you explain the 'racial differences' between Hutus and Tutsies, Serbs, Bosnians, Croats, Kosovars?

You are a sad old idiot, Bwian, mentally limping before our very eyes.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk, it is the view of the Hutus and the Serbs there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren. Take it up with them. To me, they are all the same Genetically. Do you have any proof that Africans/Asians/Caucasians/Latinos/Indigenous Australians/New Zealanders and elsewhere are different to one another Genetically? Really? Care to share it with us? Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - Mar 15^th, 2018 at 10:34pm

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:48am:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

The UN is big on accusing people of genocide as long as their victims are not Christian or European.

Oh? The Tutsis are Christian.

The Bosnians are European.

It is s jolly world, no?

The Tutsi issue had nothing to do with religion babe.

And yet Christian priests preached extermination from the Pulpit, Hammer. I think it has a lot to do with Christian attitudes towards "Race"... Roll Eyes

which Christian priests?

Hutu ones, Hammer, who else?

Serbian ones, Hammer, who else?

Tsk, tsk, stop being an apologist for Christian atrocities. Roll Eyes

Brian also recently claimed that Christian terrorists 'often' quote some particular verses from the NT to justify their terrorism. He gave the same idiotic response when I asked which ones. He is yet to produce a single example.

Brian? Have you been caught bullshitting once more?

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Reply #30 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

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Reply #31 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:54pm

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

Oh, poor, poor, Soren. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm sorry you appear unable to understand the science of Genetics over the non-science of Eugenics. You know, the non-science that Nazis like to believe, the non-science that they used to justify killing over 10 million innocent civilians in their death factories. Tsk, tsk, such a petty little boy you. Off back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong. Roll Eyes

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Reply #32 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

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Oh, poor, poor, Soren. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm sorry you appear unable to understand the science of Genetics over the non-science of Eugenics. You know, the non-science that Nazis like to believe, the non-science that they used to justify killing over 10 million innocent civilians in their death factories. Tsk, tsk, such a petty little boy you. Off back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong. Roll Eyes

So why is it blacks run s hitholes while white and east Asians run high tech countries?

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Reply #33 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

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Oh, poor, poor, Soren. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm sorry you appear unable to understand the science of Genetics over the non-science of Eugenics. You know, the non-science that Nazis like to believe, the non-science that they used to justify killing over 10 million innocent civilians in their death factories. Tsk, tsk, such a petty little boy you. Off back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong. Roll Eyes

So why is it blacks run s hitholes while white and east Asians run high tech countries?

Jared Diamond would suggest that it is because of Colonisation, Hammer. Europeans invaded and took possession of African colonies which they ran for their benefit, not the benefit of the locals. They moved the locals into larger settlements, in areas which were Mosquito and other insects ridden. In China, they imported large quantities of Opium to get silver out of the country easily. In India, they imported cotton goods to a nation where cotton was the dominant thread, destroying their ability to weave it themselves. It took independence in India under Gandhi and under Mao in China to break away from the European influence. In Japan it took two atomic bombs. In Indonesia, it took Sukarno. Most of Africa was very much poorer than Asia. Africa is only just recovering from Colonisation and then the Cold War. Asia recovered earlier.

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Reply #34 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, poor, poor, Soren. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm sorry you appear unable to understand the science of Genetics over the non-science of Eugenics. You know, the non-science that Nazis like to believe, the non-science that they used to justify killing over 10 million innocent civilians in their death factories. Tsk, tsk, such a petty little boy you. Off back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong. Roll Eyes

So why is it blacks run s hitholes while white and east Asians run high tech countries?

Jared Diamond would suggest that it is because of Colonisation, Hammer. Europeans invaded and took possession of African colonies which they ran for their benefit, not the benefit of the locals. They moved the locals into larger settlements, in areas which were Mosquito and other insects ridden. In China, they imported large quantities of Opium to get silver out of the country easily. In India, they imported cotton goods to a nation where cotton was the dominant thread, destroying their ability to weave it themselves. It took independence in India under Gandhi and under Mao in China to break away from the European influence. In Japan it took two atomic bombs. In Indonesia, it took Sukarno. Most of Africa was very much poorer than Asia. Africa is only just recovering from Colonisation and then the Cold War. Asia recovered earlier.

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

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Reply #35 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:13pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

Colonialism was the cause of the problem, Hammer. It has created artificial states who's borders rarely follow sensible lines. It has forced into consort often warring tribes. It has created a disjointed railway infrastructure, a dependence on overseas industrial output and so on. Then you have the effects of the Cold War. Disjointed ideological conflicts, often fuelled by external actors.

Only now, some 70 years after the end of colonialism and some 30 years after the end of the Cold War are things slowly starting to come together. You asked for the cause, I supplied it. Now you're upset? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #36 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

Colonialism was the cause of the problem, Hammer. It has created artificial states who's borders rarely follow sensible lines. It has forced into consort often warring tribes. It has created a disjointed railway infrastructure, a dependence on overseas industrial output and so on. Then you have the effects of the Cold War. Disjointed ideological conflicts, often fuelled by external actors.

Only now, some 70 years after the end of colonialism and some 30 years after the end of the Cold War are things slowly starting to come together. You asked for the cause, I supplied it. Now you're upset? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Why is then that a load of countries around the world have moved on from colonialism and they apparently haven't?

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Reply #37 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:28pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

Colonialism was the cause of the problem, Hammer. It has created artificial states who's borders rarely follow sensible lines. It has forced into consort often warring tribes. It has created a disjointed railway infrastructure, a dependence on overseas industrial output and so on. Then you have the effects of the Cold War. Disjointed ideological conflicts, often fuelled by external actors.

Only now, some 70 years after the end of colonialism and some 30 years after the end of the Cold War are things slowly starting to come together. You asked for the cause, I supplied it. Now you're upset? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Why is then that a load of countries around the world have moved on from colonialism and they apparently haven't?

Have you bothered to ask them, Hammer or is talking to a black person too personally difficult for you?

Africa started a long, long, way back compared to Asia. It has a long, long way to catch up. It is now endeavouring to do that. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

Colonialism was the cause of the problem, Hammer. It has created artificial states who's borders rarely follow sensible lines. It has forced into consort often warring tribes. It has created a disjointed railway infrastructure, a dependence on overseas industrial output and so on. Then you have the effects of the Cold War. Disjointed ideological conflicts, often fuelled by external actors.

Only now, some 70 years after the end of colonialism and some 30 years after the end of the Cold War are things slowly starting to come together. You asked for the cause, I supplied it. Now you're upset? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Why is then that a load of countries around the world have moved on from colonialism and they apparently haven't?

Have you bothered to ask them, Hammer or is talking to a black person too personally difficult for you?

Africa started a long, long, way back compared to Asia. It has a long, long way to catch up. It is now endeavouring to do that. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

It's unfair to purely blame colonialists on a backward patriological and tribal ridden continent Brian. It has never moved forward and probably never will. It doesn't have the means to. It's poorly educated and socially chaotic and everything flows from there. I'm sorry if this hurts your pc sensitivities but it's the truth. It's a basket case. Always has been and always will . Unless there's some massive social transformation it will always suffer. Just like the muslim world.

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Reply #39 - Mar 16^th, 2018 at 9:22pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, poor, poor, Soren. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm sorry you appear unable to understand the science of Genetics over the non-science of Eugenics. You know, the non-science that Nazis like to believe, the non-science that they used to justify killing over 10 million innocent civilians in their death factories. Tsk, tsk, such a petty little boy you. Off back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong. Roll Eyes

So why is it blacks run s hitholes while white and east Asians run high tech countries?

Jared Diamond would suggest that it is because of Colonisation, Hammer. Europeans invaded and took possession of African colonies which they ran for their benefit, not the benefit of the locals. They moved the locals into larger settlements, in areas which were Mosquito and other insects ridden. In China, they imported large quantities of Opium to get silver out of the country easily. In India, they imported cotton goods to a nation where cotton was the dominant thread, destroying their ability to weave it themselves. It took independence in India under Gandhi and under Mao in China to break away from the European influence. In Japan it took two atomic bombs. In Indonesia, it took Sukarno. Most of Africa was very much poorer than Asia. Africa is only just recovering from Colonisation and then the Cold War. Asia recovered earlier.

Switzerland, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden - all very white- never invaded any Africans or tinted countries, yet managed to become highly developed. All they had was white people as a resource.

Makes you think. Not you, Bwian, nothing will make YOU think. But normal people....

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Reply #41 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 11:36am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:54pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

there are sufficient differences to identify those people as being non-Hutu and non-Serbian, Soren.

Oh?? So people are not going by DNA tests? They perceive sufficient differences?? They believe their lying eyes, NOT your silly-ass bollocks theories, Bwian??

How is that EVEN POSSIBLE, Bwian?? Blacks being wacist about other blacks???? Shocked

Whitey made them do it, no?

Oh, wait, there are no waces so there are no whiteys making blacks wacists towards other blacks for tribal reasons.

The Hutu and the Schmutu are completely indistinguishable and it's just made up by whites. Blacks are all puppets of whites.

No wait, that can't be right. Blacks are EQUAL to whites.

No wait, there is no difference between 'whites' and 'blacks'.

We are laughing AT you, Bwian, not with you. Always. You are just too silly.

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Oh, poor, poor, Soren. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm sorry you appear unable to understand the science of Genetics over the non-science of Eugenics. You know, the non-science that Nazis like to believe, the non-science that they used to justify killing over 10 million innocent civilians in their death factories. Tsk, tsk, such a petty little boy you. Off back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong. Roll Eyes

You re caught out again, tangled up in your stupidity.

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Reply #42 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:32pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

Colonialism was the cause of the problem, Hammer. It has created artificial states who's borders rarely follow sensible lines. It has forced into consort often warring tribes. It has created a disjointed railway infrastructure, a dependence on overseas industrial output and so on. Then you have the effects of the Cold War. Disjointed ideological conflicts, often fuelled by external actors.

Only now, some 70 years after the end of colonialism and some 30 years after the end of the Cold War are things slowly starting to come together. You asked for the cause, I supplied it. Now you're upset? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Why is then that a load of countries around the world have moved on from colonialism and they apparently haven't?

Not all countries are the same, Hammer. Some have, some haven't. Africa is tribal. African leaders usually come to power by military means, often appealing to tribal loyalties. Tribal loyalties allow persecution, genocide to occur. Tribal loyalties cause civil wars. Tribal loyalties allow corruption and malfeasance to flourish.

We see similar things today, in PNG. We did a real good job preparing them for independence, now didn't we? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #43 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:37pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:44pm:

It's unfair to purely blame colonialists on a backward patriological and tribal ridden continent Brian.

Oh, I'm not blaming the Africans/Asians/South/Central Americans for their problems, I am blaming the supposedly superior White cultures that colonised them. Tsk, tsk, I do wish you'd get your blame apportioned correctly, Hammer. Roll Eyes

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It has never moved forward and probably never will. It doesn't have the means to. It's poorly educated and socially chaotic and everything flows from there. I'm sorry if this hurts your pc sensitivities but it's the truth. It's a basket case. Always has been and always will . Unless there's some massive social transformation it will always suffer. Just like the muslim world.

Oh, it doesn't hurt me in the slightest, Hammer. It appears to hurt you to admit that the mismanagement of these countries while under European control has turned out so badly. Poorly educated? Who's fault was that when the place was colonised? Socially chaotic? Who's fault was that when the place was colonised? Europeans. Post-colonisaton? Oh, the Africans for sure but they were just carrying on the lessons they had learnt from the Europeans who controlled them for often hundreds of years. You'd think that the Europeans would have gotten something right, right? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #44 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

I knew you were going to writer colonialism as an answer. Africa hasn't had colonialism for 70 odd years in most African countries Brian. You can only blame colonialism for so long.

Colonialism was the cause of the problem, Hammer. It has created artificial states who's borders rarely follow sensible lines. It has forced into consort often warring tribes. It has created a disjointed railway infrastructure, a dependence on overseas industrial output and so on. Then you have the effects of the Cold War. Disjointed ideological conflicts, often fuelled by external actors.

Only now, some 70 years after the end of colonialism and some 30 years after the end of the Cold War are things slowly starting to come together. You asked for the cause, I supplied it. Now you're upset? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Why is then that a load of countries around the world have moved on from colonialism and they apparently haven't?

Not all countries are the same, Hammer. Some have, some haven't. Africa is tribal. African leaders usually come to power by military means, often appealing to tribal loyalties. Tribal loyalties allow persecution, genocide to occur. Tribal loyalties cause civil wars. Tribal loyalties allow corruption and malfeasance to flourish.

We see similar things today, in PNG. We did a real good job preparing them for independence, now didn't we? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Well, why bring such tribal people to the West? We need more African gangs, home invasions, robberies, violent crimes and goat curry?

I don't think so.

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Reply #45 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Not all countries are the same, Hammer. Some have, some haven't. Africa is tribal. African leaders usually come to power by military means, often appealing to tribal loyalties. Tribal loyalties allow persecution, genocide to occur. Tribal loyalties cause civil wars. Tribal loyalties allow corruption and malfeasance to flourish.

We see similar things today, in PNG. We did a real good job preparing them for independence, now didn't we? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Listen to the Zen master, people. " Not all countries are the same'. Cheesy

Blacks are tribal. Whites are not. Makes a difference. Are they tribal because they are black? Yes. There are no white tribal societies, whites have evolved.
And which way is the traffic across the Mediterranean? One way, from darkest Africa to the light of Europe. Europeans are not flooding into glorious Africa, controlled by Africans. Give them independence and they turn the place into shite - and then flood to Europe and the est to do the same - see Melbourne, Minnesota, london, St Louis etc, etc.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47460 At my desk.	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #46 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 5:41pm freediver wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 10:26am: Quote: Jared Diamond would suggest that it is because of Colonisation, Hammer. No he would not. He would suggest that Colonisation is another expression of the relative strength of those societies. Once again, Brian is caught bullshitting. Brian?
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Reply #47 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 5:44pm

Frank wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Not all countries are the same, Hammer. Some have, some haven't. Africa is tribal. African leaders usually come to power by military means, often appealing to tribal loyalties. Tribal loyalties allow persecution, genocide to occur. Tribal loyalties cause civil wars. Tribal loyalties allow corruption and malfeasance to flourish.

We see similar things today, in PNG. We did a real good job preparing them for independence, now didn't we? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Listen to the Zen master, people. " Not all countries are the same'. Cheesy

Blacks are tribal. Whites are not. Makes a difference. Are they tribal because they are black? Yes. There are no white tribal societies, whites have evolved.

Cesterete them.

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Reply #48 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:37pm

Frank wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Not all countries are the same, Hammer. Some have, some haven't. Africa is tribal. African leaders usually come to power by military means, often appealing to tribal loyalties. Tribal loyalties allow persecution, genocide to occur. Tribal loyalties cause civil wars. Tribal loyalties allow corruption and malfeasance to flourish.

We see similar things today, in PNG. We did a real good job preparing them for independence, now didn't we? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Listen to the Zen master, people. " Not all countries are the same'. Cheesy

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Blacks are tribal. Whites are not. Makes a difference. Are they tribal because they are black? Yes. There are no white tribal societies, whites have evolved.
And which way is the traffic across the Mediterranean? One way, from darkest Africa to the light of Europe. Europeans are not flooding into glorious Africa, controlled by Africans. Give them independence and they turn the place into shite - and then flood to Europe and the est to do the same - see Melbourne, Minnesota, london, St Louis etc, etc.

Never been to a Football game, have you, Soren? How about a political rally? How about a University conference? No, of course, not once you graduated, you were out the door, never to return, now were you? Tsk, tsk. Soren, crawl away back to the little kiddies' playground. Your chums are calling you. Roll Eyes

Tribalism has nothing to do with skin colour. There are Asian, Arabic, African, Indigenous Australian, European tribes. You're just not bothering to look very hard. Roll Eyes

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Reply #49 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 9:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 7:37pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 3:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Not all countries are the same, Hammer. Some have, some haven't. Africa is tribal. African leaders usually come to power by military means, often appealing to tribal loyalties. Tribal loyalties allow persecution, genocide to occur. Tribal loyalties cause civil wars. Tribal loyalties allow corruption and malfeasance to flourish.

We see similar things today, in PNG. We did a real good job preparing them for independence, now didn't we? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Listen to the Zen master, people. " Not all countries are the same'. Cheesy

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Blacks are tribal. Whites are not. Makes a difference. Are they tribal because they are black? Yes. There are no white tribal societies, whites have evolved.
And which way is the traffic across the Mediterranean? One way, from darkest Africa to the light of Europe. Europeans are not flooding into glorious Africa, controlled by Africans. Give them independence and they turn the place into shite - and then flood to Europe and the est to do the same - see Melbourne, Minnesota, london, St Louis etc, etc.

Never been to a Football game, have you, Soren? How about a political rally? How about a University conference? No, of course, not once you graduated, you were out the door, never to return, now were you? Tsk, tsk. Soren, crawl away back to the little kiddies' playground. Your chums are calling you. Roll Eyes

Tribalism has nothing to do with skin colour. There are Asian, Arabic, African, Indigenous Australian, European tribes. You're just not bothering to look very hard. Roll Eyes

Thank you mad cow. Australia, africa, Asia, islam, japan, europe, east, west, north, south - it is all the same, no difference, they are indistingushable. Why people are flooding in from any of these parts into any other is a complete mystery for idiotic zombies like you.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39575	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #50 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 9:30pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, looks to me like you're confused, Soren. Time for you to run along back to your little kiddies' playground where your chums can play with you some more. Your teacher will be calling you in for a nap soon, I expect.
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Reply #51 - Mar 17^th, 2018 at 10:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:44pm:

It's unfair to purely blame colonialists on a backward patriological and tribal ridden continent Brian.

Oh, I'm not blaming the Africans/Asians/South/Central Americans for their problems, I am blaming the supposedly superior White cultures that colonised them. Tsk, tsk, I do wish you'd get your blame apportioned correctly, Hammer. Roll Eyes

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It has never moved forward and probably never will. It doesn't have the means to. It's poorly educated and socially chaotic and everything flows from there. I'm sorry if this hurts your pc sensitivities but it's the truth. It's a basket case. Always has been and always will . Unless there's some massive social transformation it will always suffer. Just like the muslim world.

Oh, it doesn't hurt me in the slightest, Hammer. It appears to hurt you to admit that the mismanagement of these countries while under European control has turned out so badly. Poorly educated? Who's fault was that when the place was colonised? Socially chaotic? Who's fault was that when the place was colonised? Europeans. Post-colonisaton? Oh, the Africans for sure but they were just carrying on the lessons they had learnt from the Europeans who controlled them for often hundreds of years. You'd think that the Europeans would have gotten something right, right? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It's you that has the black issue by the way you defend their mistakes Brian.

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Reply #52 - Mar 18^th, 2018 at 8:06am

Nothing slow motion about this

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Turkey: Three Christian men—one of them a 45-year-old German father of three children, Tilman Geske—are brutally murdered by at least four young men who confess to the slayings. The assassins torture their victims for hours before cutting their throats; an autopsy of the German victim finds 156 stab wounds.

Hurriyet newspaper quotes a suspect: "Let this be a lesson to enemies of our religion."

Of course none of this is about Islam, if you need to prop up the illusion of cultural relativism.

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Reply #53 - Mar 18^th, 2018 at 1:24pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 10:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 7:44pm:

It's unfair to purely blame colonialists on a backward patriological and tribal ridden continent Brian.

Oh, I'm not blaming the Africans/Asians/South/Central Americans for their problems, I am blaming the supposedly superior White cultures that colonised them. Tsk, tsk, I do wish you'd get your blame apportioned correctly, Hammer. Roll Eyes

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It has never moved forward and probably never will. It doesn't have the means to. It's poorly educated and socially chaotic and everything flows from there. I'm sorry if this hurts your pc sensitivities but it's the truth. It's a basket case. Always has been and always will . Unless there's some massive social transformation it will always suffer. Just like the muslim world.

Oh, it doesn't hurt me in the slightest, Hammer. It appears to hurt you to admit that the mismanagement of these countries while under European control has turned out so badly. Poorly educated? Who's fault was that when the place was colonised? Socially chaotic? Who's fault was that when the place was colonised? Europeans. Post-colonisaton? Oh, the Africans for sure but they were just carrying on the lessons they had learnt from the Europeans who controlled them for often hundreds of years. You'd think that the Europeans would have gotten something right, right? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It's you that has the black issue by the way you defend their mistakes Brian.

There is a difference between defending them, which is what you do and explaining them, which is what I do. I have in no way defended anybody, Hammer. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47460 At my desk.	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #54 - Mar 18^th, 2018 at 2:04pm Do you have the right or even ability to defend them Brian?
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92373 Gender:	Re: Slow motion genocide of Christians Reply #55 - Mar 18^th, 2018 at 8:44pm freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 2:04pm: Do you have the right or even ability to defend them Brian? Do you have the right to not be offended?
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