AGW one of the greatest hoaxes the oligarchy has ever bestowed upon people to get trillions of dollars up and running on wall street.

The bottom line is they want every man woman and child to pay for the air that they breathe.

Financial slavery under the guise of saving the environment, what other cause can gather so many willing foot soldiers.

Gillard is a traitor to this nation, she should be jailed for life.

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RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 9:38am:



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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 9:51am:


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There is a consensus among economists that putting a price on GHG emissions is the cheapest way to reduce them.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 10:17am:


But they are full.
What annoys me is most muppets think climates follow yearly seasonal patterns.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 9:02am:


There is no doubt that Tim Flannery said some things that he probably regrets now. His back ground is in mammalogy (the evolution of mammals) but he has studied the literature on climate science and does have a good grasp of the concepts.

He's probably quite bemused that off-the-cuff comments he made 13 years ago are still being used by conservative commentators to try and discredit him.

Andrew Bolt however has no background in science and the nonsense that he publishes can be easily dismissed. More importantly, trying to discredit Tim Flannery has no effect on the reality of human induced global warming.

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:


You don't remember Miranda Divine or Andrew Bolt's last one?

You must have a very short memory, Homo. They only rewrite this column at least once a month. Any time Flannery gives a talk or writes a book or goes on the tele, there's this story.

It's a board favourite. There's always a thread on it. Oh - and if Leonardo DiCaprio comes to town, expect the column on how many carbon miles he's clocking up.

So hypocritical of him to use cars and planes, you see.

Al Gore? He once attended a dinner where they served an endangered fish. He has the nerve to catch planes too. Sometimes, he even has things printed on paper - made from trees of all things.

How can we believe a thing these people say?

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:00pm:


Ever checked his electrical bill...?

Could run Melbourne for a year.

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 12:49pm:


Absolutely, even the smarter disciples of the climate change cult even distance themselves from this lunatic

Ajax wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:09pm:


Reminds me of Al Gore he owns 7 mansions all with fire places as well as his private jet he flies around the world preaching his BS.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:14pm:


Don't forget all those condominiums he bought up at half price on the San Francisco peninsula after the owners saw an inconvenient truth........the fools......

Ajax wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:25pm:


You see? You could write Andrew Bolt's column yourself, Ajax.

Get Homo to help you.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:20pm:


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The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:32pm:


Their too busy with the bitcoins to take any notice....!!!

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:13pm:


And here is a perfect example.
You've just made an off-the-cuff comment which is pretty ridiculous. After all, the Bureau of Meteorology were specifically set up to predict our future weather.

How would you feel if in 13 years time some shock jock hack like Andrew Bolt was continuing to quote you?

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 1:44pm:


So where is the apology from Flannery ?

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 2:46pm:


And you can believe in all the junk science you like, being part of a cult especially one your interested is, does not make them correct.

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I was talking about a statement on economics, by about 2000 mainstream economists. Do you have any reason, other than some misinformed wishful thinking, to assume they are wrong? Do you even know what they said?

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I mean carbon taxes.

Ajax wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 10:33am:


If it's "fracked" gas it is worse than coal ... environmentally is a potentially big disaster in the making.

Gas is still a fossil fuel & if the side effects of it's extraction is worse than coal, you achieve nothing.

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 2:46pm:


So Economists are now Scientists?

There's a lot of bought & paid for economists doing the rounds.

The GFC was a classic example.

The bastards like the bankers should be in jail.

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:


One is an arrogant lunatic the other is just arrogant ?

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 7:46pm:


No one would ever describe Tim Flannery as arrogant, dear.

You?

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 8:19pm:


That makes sense.

Do you know who Tim Flannery is, Right? If you watch Q&A tonight, you can find out.

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 10:39pm:


Yes that is the point, in the public eye you don't get second chances once you screw up big time beyond that I don't see him as a specialist but a scientist with dysfunctionality issues. There is nothing in the so called science of climate change that would suggest you could make the precise predictions he did.
Its like using Newtonian Physics to predict speed of light events.

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:


So you can put a measurement for price on a a colourless odorless gas in our atmosphere as a commodity?

It's carbon dioxide .... not "carbon". Carbon is a solid.

And as I said economics is full of smoke & mirrors BS artists.

Like the banks making money out of nothing or taking out insurance on a product they sell that's bound to fail.

The world is full of trickery.

freediver wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 9:08am:


It's a carbon dioxide tax.

It's BS tax.

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 6:33pm:


So do I.

Like I said how can buying up air space on wall street through the carbon credit scheme while you keep on polluting the atmosphere indefinitely be better or cheaper for that matter than sticking a filter on the end of those processes to manage the  pollution.

Read between the lines if we are at a point of no return, if we are about to change the Earth so much that we'll become extinct, if AGW is that deadly do you think its the best option to keep on polluting indefinitely as long as you pay, and we will be paying for quite some time it wont be an overnight thing.

There is your answer the oligarchy want to tax us plebs on the FREE AIR that we all breathe while they set up another trillion dollar market on wall street that doesn't need to be there in the first place.

They (the oligarchy) love printing money out of thin air ala ETS schemes right around the world.



The oligarchy must think that us plebs must be dumb cants.

freediver wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:34pm:


Carbon credits are issued from carbon sinks.....!!!!

In other words we're buying up the air space above forests.