Its a real problem. Not sure why they need to advertise though. Perhaps a lot of the people who arent forced into casual labour arent aware. I had a friend who was casual for 30 years then 1 day they said to her "dont come in tomorrow". No super or anything.

Spot

It should be the right of every man to withdraw his labor.

That rule is gone.

what exactly does the ACTU want changed??



it always seems to me.....


all they really want is more POWER FOR THE UNIONS...more reason for their being....


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they owe it to their members to say how much of their money they are spending...

if a CEO of big business spent their workers money on advertising for the Liberal   I am sure there would be many complaining!!!!!!  on here at any rate!

I have no idea what MASSIVE PROBLEMS exists with IR laws.......

we are in huge changing times... it is a sad fact of life many jobs do not exist anymore  and it wont be long before bus drivers will be a thing of the past....its got seriously nothing to do with big business....

its called

progress..

cods wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 9:06am:


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The problems in IR are real and have to be fixed, you could not be further from the truth.


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Their members are the ones asking for this to happen. You wouldn't be thinking that union members would want to continue indefinitely with no pay rises in a system skewed against them ?

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What do you mean if - they do.

Besides this isn't advertising for Labor this is advertising for employees. This is clearly part of their job.
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Dnarever wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 9:18am:



And wasn't it the Labor party that brought in that law?

Swagman wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 11:27am:


Good question big S guy.



Here’s some uplifting news that could make your weekend.

Despite all the doom and gloom — falling wages in real terms, falling private investment, falling consumer confidence, falling retail spending, rising energy costs, higher taxes and a federal government that has gone loco, expanding itself and spending like mad — some businesses are doing rather well.

At Workplace Express, an online industrial relations news service, there recently was an article about two unions experiencing such marvellous trading conditions, they’ve expanded into better buildings.

Named after Joseph Stalin in 1925, Stalingrad (now known as Volgograd), was regarded as the industrial capital of communist Russia. In Australia’s deep south, Stalingrad’s virtual sister city, Melbourne — or “Melbourne­grad”, as it is referred to in our household — remains the industrial relations capital of Australia and the core stronghold of the union movement.

In this city, despite being sued, prosecuted and fined with monotonous regularity, the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union (construction and general division) recently sold its building at 500 Swanston Street for $27 million to continue its merry climb up the prestige property ladder. Its 2016 financials say the CFMEU has 25,211 members, annual revenue of about $31m and spent $5m on legal fees and costs. The group has net assets of $58m. After the sale completes, the CFMEU will move to 532-540 Elizabeth Street, a building it purchased for $30m. This building was bought off another union, which sold it to move to a new home purchased for $68m.

According to the figures released last month, union membership density in the private sector is sitting at 10.4 per cent, the lowest it has been in our nation’s history. Despite having — on paper — fewer clients than ever, unions are going from strength to strength.

In fact, just on the data available, as a group, union bosses could be Australia’s most successful entrepreneurs; financial miracle workers, creating wealth out of thin air, and the best business managers in the country.

Of course, unions enjoy two stunning advantages created for them by a past Labor government. I’m not sure what these grand “reforms” did for the rest of us but the introduction of enterprise bargaining and compulsory national superannuation put unions on the path to stratospheric wealth and power.

Thanks to enterprise bargaining and superannuation, unions don’t need workers to join unions, they only need employers to make superannuation contributions and enter into bargaining arrangements where the union takes an income stream.

History has shown that if unions wish, they can operate above the law with almost complete impunity. As well, they can misuse their position in enterprise bargaining processes to secure alternative revenue streams, harvested from the business they are dealing with, which becomes the union’s client.

For example, a union can have an employer pay income protection insurance premiums for all employees to a union-owned insurance business or an insurance business that simply pays the union a kickback.

In the past, the details of these arrangements have not been disclosed to workers, and the insurance has been priced at an exorbitant level for a substandard product.

Recent reforms in this area, introduced by the Coalition, mean full disclosure must now be made and the product must be charged at commercial rates.

However, given the ease with which unions and employers collude to scam workers and seem to get away with it, I remain sceptical that the reforms will prevent unethical conduct and thwart unions and employers from colluding to benefit each other and rip the workers off.

Industry superannuation funds continue to grow in wealth and power, too, completely unabated. Industry funds own stakes in buildings that various governments rent. Malcolm Turnbull has offices in Sydney, rented in a building part-owned by CBUS, the CFMEU’s super fund. Basically, our Prime Minister is a tenant where the CFMEU is one of the landlords.

In Queensland, the state government resides in a $653m, 43-storey office tower, built by CBUS Property. This arrangement was put in place in the first year of the previous Liberal government. Just why past premier Campbell Newman chose CBUS over several other builders who tendered remains one of the great mysteries of the universe.

On top of all that, the revenue raised by doing whatever it is unions do now remains

tax-exempt.

Unions are simply businesses. Imagine operating a business with a captive market created by a legal framework set up to ensure you succeed, without having to pay federal taxes — it would be impossible to fail, wouldn’t it?

On that note — and this suggestion will fall on deaf Canberra ears, given the government seems to love whacking taxes on all and sundry, especially the hardest working and most valuable in the economy — isn’t it past time we taxed all “registered industrial organisations”, unions and employer groups?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/unions-fantastic-taxfree-business...

Swagman wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 11:27am:

About the same as political parties and churches.

Bam wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:


.....hypocrites then....like all lefties

Its time wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:


....Bill and his Brown Shirts huh....Sieg Heil...

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 5:29pm:

What a load of rubbish.

Its time wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:


You're a funny prick. 

The cranium of paw old GetUpy BlackDay who parrots the red rag rubbish must be spinning by now.

The utterly corrupt unions are scared that their perilously parlous state of irrelevancy will become public knowledge with a audit of the very few members they still have.

and if YOU vote for LABOR then these irrelevant corrupt union thugs will be running Australia into the ground!!!!!



Unions are pumping up the numbers again, all this could have been killed forever had the appropriate action been taken after the RC, however a weak as water PM did nothing and now the unions are back on the march with their rampage of lies, propaganda and thuggery.

AWU resisting pressure for an external headcount of members
The Australian12:00AM March 12, 2018


The AWU remains Bill Shorten’s main powerbase in Labor’s right faction. Picture: AAP

The Australian Workers Union is resisting pressure for an “external audit” after vastly exaggerating membership numbers that helped boost its power and influence in Bill Shorten’s faction of the Labor Party.

The Registered Organisations Commission, set up by the Turnbull government to police union governance, recommended the external audit of AWU membership after concluding the union did not take its reporting responsibilities seriously.

According to the ROC’s analysis, big discrepancies were found in membership levels of the right-wing AWU over seven years of annual and financial-year reports that were checked.
The most inflated figures were discovered in the Queensland branch, the AWU’s largest, that was then headed by AWU boss and Labor Party “godfather” Bill Ludwig.

AWU Queensland branch numbers were artificially boosted over successive years by failing to purge up to 45 per cent of members from the branch membership accounts who were unfinancial.

Other discrepancies detected included big differences in the AWU’s national membership tally as quoted in annual and -financial-year reports just six months apart.
The ROC found it inexplicable that memberships could experience rises and falls of up to 10 per cent over such a short time. Only last month the Transport Workers Union received an unprecedented $272,000 fine from the Federal Court for falsely inflating its membership.

In doubling membership numbers by failing to eliminate non--financial members from its books over a period of years, the NSW branch of the TWU was able to significantly boost its representation on the state Labor conference floor and have a greater say in party decisions including the selection of candidates and even the choice of leader.

The TWU, led by Tony Sheldon, who was confirmed last week as NSW Labor’s No 1 Senate candidate for the next federal election, is appealing against the severity of the penalty — but the AWU is at risk of a similar fine if its comparable past reporting lapses climax with a court prosecution.

When the royal commission into union corruption investigated the AWU in 2015, part of its ¬inquiries focused on whether ¬inflated union membership numbers boosted the influence of AWU leaders in the Labor Party.

Mr Shorten, who gave ¬evidence to the commission, was the national and Victorian branch secretary of the AWU before he entered parliament in 2007, and the AWU remains his main powerbase in the ALP’s right faction.

AWU national secretary Dan Walton conceded last year to the ROC that the union had found “an error in historical membership levels” contained in six out of seven financial reports following an internal union audit.
In public correspondence with the ROC, Mr Walton said the AWU had corrected these figures and he hoped the matter was -finalised.

But the ROC disagreed. Referring to high levels of accountability expected by law, ROC deputy Chris Enright recommended an external membership audit because the regulator did not have “a sufficient level of confidence in the statutory membership reporting of the AWU”.

Mr Walton, who was not the AWU’s leader when the conceded “errors” were made, resisted the external audit by proposing -instead an “AWU modern membership project” in which the union would commission an “external consultant” to report on union practices, systems and even rules.
While standing by his lack of confidence in the AWU finding its own remedies, Mr Enright ¬appears to have agreed that the membership “project” should go ahead. The union remained on notice about the prospect of an external audit.

The AWU’s “membership project” results are due this month, but the timing of a report to the ROC and any outcome remain unclear. The Australian asked Mr Walton what stage the AWU’s “membership project” had reached, when it would be completed and which external consultant was chosen.
A spokesman for Mr Walton said the AWU did not consider it appropriate to provide “info or commentary on this at this stage”.

Publicly available records show the AWU declined to participate in a 2015 voluntary survey of all federally registered unions that was conducted by the regulatory compliance branch of the Fair Work Commission. The ROC took over the FWC’s regulatory functions last year.

Read the too good to miss rest of the unions being sprung here

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/awu-resis...

DNA overlooks that people are NOT BEING PAID to make errors.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 5:29pm:



Hitler was never a socialist and I suspect that you are not going to be in love with our next PM.

juliar wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:



Sounds like more than ONE error to me.

Dnarever wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 8:12pm:


But Hitler was a socialist you can keep on trying to rewrite history on this if you like.

Cereal Killer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 1:36am:

But yet is was a Socialist you don't have to like it you need to think about facts not your opinion.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 7:26pm:


Indeed Hitler was a socialist - a National socialist - he introduced free holiday trips, guaranteed work, organised communal charity for Winter and those deprived of shelter.. oooh - a heap of stuff - and all he wanted in return was absolute control over all of those things.  Dammit, man - he even reduced the burden on social security and charities by removing all those not worth a cracker, and generated law and order by shipping off the troublemakers, including gays etc.

An excellent example of a socialist.... and while he made a few mistakes.. well.. everyone's human...... and he wasn't anywhere near as disastrous as Stalin, who was an International Socialist dedicated to total control of the Nation first..... and thus was a National Socialist first and foremost....

Between the two they did a great job of purging Europe of many undesirable elements and staved off the threat of over-population for a generation.

Good on the unions wage growth is zero under these Muppets

Now a welcome relief from LW's silly childish sag grapes lemon sucking dribble.

Shorten has "PRIVATELY" backed Swan for National President, what that means is you will do if it means getting rid of the guy who supported Albo but don't count on it once I'm PM then I will have who I want in the top spot. I'm sick of reading all this crap.




Shorten backs Wayne Swan for ALP presidency
TROY BRAMSTON SENIOR WRITER Sydney The Australian12:00AM March 13, 2018

Bill Shorten has privately ­endorsed Wayne Swan to become Labor’s national president and is annoyed by another tilt at the job by frontbencher Mark Butler, who has slammed the party for failing to embrace internal reform under his leadership.

Mr Shorten has little time for Mr Butler, who ran Anthony ­Albanese’s rival campaign for leader in 2013 and gave a damning speech in January arguing that Labor was controlled by “factional warlords”, membership was falling and the party’s primary vote was “stubbornly low” and fared better under Mark Latham and Kim Beazley.

Mr Shorten encouraged Mr Swan to run for the presidency ­because his lifelong crusade on economic and social inequality meshes with his own priorities as leader, while Mr Butler’s internal focus is seen as a distraction in the year before an election.

Mr Swan, a former treasurer and deputy prime minister, is aligned to Mr Shorten’s Australian Workers Union-backed ­national right faction and is also close to his deputy, Tanya Plibersek, who is seen as a rising star within the left faction. Ms Plibersek, faction insiders say, could ­endorse Mr Swan.

Senior Labor figures in the ­national right faction have for several months urged Mr Swan to run for president, as flagged by The Australian in January.

Mr Shorten recently told Mr Swan that he had his backing to run for president. The convener of the national right faction, Kaila Murnain, also the NSW Labor secretary, is working closely with Mr Swan.

Transport Workers Union ­national secretary Tony Sheldon had not secured support from the right faction to run for the presidency and withdrew on Friday and endorsed Mr Swan.

But Mr Swan had not yet planned to confirm his candidacy and was forced into making a quick ­declaration on Saturday.

A meeting of the national right faction leadership was held by teleconference on Saturday afternoon and supported Mr Swan as its candidate for president.

The meeting of parliamentary, party and union leaders heard from Mr Swan. His endorsement was formally proposed by frontbenchers Joel Fitzgibbon and Richard Marles and adopted.

The race for the national presidency will be a titanic clash pitting two high-profile candidates from the right and left faction, each backed by an army of state and federal MPs, union leaders, party officials and thousands of rank-and-file members.

Mr Swan is finalising plans for a nationwide speaking tour aimed at persuading up to 50,000 party members that he should be elected to the top party organisational post.

If successful, Mr Swan will chair Labor’s national conference in July and meetings of the nat­ional executive.

The contest for the presidency has sparked divisions on Labor’s frontbench, with senior figures in the left and right factions believing Mr Butler should not be running for president on a platform of spotlighting the party’s lack of democracy, transparency and account­ability.

The right’s Tim Hammond, Labor’s spokesman for consumer affairs, has argued that Mr Butler should be barred running for president because it conflicts with his duties as a frontbencher.

The left’s Brendan O’Connor, Labor’s spokesman for employment and workplace relations, said it was probably better if the president was not a frontbencher. The right faction will seek to change party rules to ban frontbenchers being president.

Mr Shorten told colleagues that he wants frontbenchers to be focusing on policy development and campaigning ahead of the next election, rather than “navel-gazing” over Labor’s internal structure or waging bitter factional battles in public.

Mr Swan is expected to significantly lift the right faction’s support in the presidential election. The right faction typically attracts about 35-40 per cent support from rank-and-file party members ­nationally.

Voting online and by postal ballot will take place from May 4 to June 15. The election of a president and two vice-presidents is expected to be announced soon after.

In 2015 there were about 54,000 party members eligible to cast a ballot but just fewer than 20,000 voted.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/shorten-backs-wayne-swan-for-a...

Jasin wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:



You and Juliar would fit in nicely at a tea party with the mad hatter.

The current IR laws badly need to be fixed it is as simple as that.

Dnarever wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 7:55pm:


You won't be driving tonight, I hope.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:50am:


Sure mate and the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea aka North Korea is a shining example of modern democracy that should be emulated all over the world.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 8:35am:


I was going to draw you a nice picture of John Howard as a pinko commie liberal and was going to cherry pick his policies to reflect this and draw them into the picture too. Baby bonus, increases to the age pension, first home buyers grant and c**p like that. Whilst completely ignoring attacks on trade unions, work choices and s**t that doesn’t suit my pictures little agenda. Oh and obviously the name, duh.

But I went with a small example of distorting the truth into fairy tales, maybe because I don’t spend my life searching for “facts” that suit my “view”. Because “the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit the views …” and I’m not stupid, nor do I suffer from delusions of grandeur, and I definitely don’t believe party propaganda from either side of politics. Also I'm not a Troll or a Nazi though I'm not sure which you are. Seriously mate after the rant/w**k about "purging Europe" and "removing all those not worth a cracker" I think you need to download some nazi fetish porn or go back on your meds or go get some meds.

Cereal Killer wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 10:00pm:


And Jesus said unto his Jewish people who sacrificed him upon the cross to die for 'their' sins.
"Wait till my little brother Hitler gets yas - ya bastards!"

Bam wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 8:40am:


Not couldn't .... wouldn't.

The rest I'm in total agreeance with.

juliar wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 4:25pm:


What a crock.....

and tell me why so many of the business associations/Unions of employers "merged" to form larger associations/ Unions of employers?

The hypocrisy looms large in all your BS.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 12^th, 2018 at 8:23pm:


No he was a nationalist ..... & right wing.

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 2:49pm:

No he was a socialist you may not like it he might not of been a good one but is what he was !

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 3:01pm:


It's not about liking "it" ... I didn't like the person no matter how his description of his ideology is changed.

Gnads wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 3:05pm:


Part of the rich culture you get in unions.