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Unions Attack Work Laws With Biggest Ad Campaign
Mar 11th, 2018 at 5:45am
 
Unions attack work laws with biggest ad campaign in decade
Sydney Morning Herald
11 March 2018

   

Unions will launch their biggest advertising push in more than a decade as part of a pre-election campaign to overhaul Australia’s workplace laws.   Smiley

The ACTU said the national advertising campaign would run for eight weeks from Sunday and would be its largest since its 2005-07 campaign against the Howard government’s WorkChoices laws.




It would not disclose how much it would spend but it is expected to be at least several million dollars with advertising on TV, online, print, radio and billboards.

Its anti-WorkChoices campaign involved spending $14.4 million on advertising ahead of the 2007 election, filings with the Australian Electoral Commission show.

At the last federal election in 2016, the ACTU spent more than $3 million on advertising while in 2010 and 2013 it spent more than $5 million on advertising on each of those federal elections.


The latest advertisements highlight workers struggling with bills and insecure work. They attack big business.

In one, a teary woman who appears to be aged in her 20s or 30s, is talking to her mother and says:

‘’Mum the company is making huge profits and here I am being pushed into labour hire, they’ve forced me into casual work, I don’t even know if I’m working next week. I just don't know what I'm going to do.''   Sad

Her mother replies, ‘’I know love, it’s not fair.’’


The ads are part of the ACTU's 'Change the Rules' campaign

The anti-WorkChoices campaign, Your Rights at Work, helped elect the Rudd Labor government and resulted in the introduction of the Fair Work Act.

Unions as part of the 'Change the Rules' campaign are now pushing to change those same Fair Work laws by electing a new Labor government.

Since the Rudd government was elected, union membership has continued to slide from 19 per cent of the workforce in 2007 to 15.6 per cent a decade later.


The unions ran a massive campaign against the Howard government's WorkChoices laws.


ACTU secretary Sally McManus said big business had too much power, insecure work was rife while workers were struggling to get pay rises.   Sad

''Working people want change,’’ she said.

''They’re sick of one-third of big businesses not paying tax. They’re sick of watching CEO bonuses going up, company profits going up while their own pay falls behind basic living costs.''   Sad

Employer groups have described the ACTU’s ‘Change the Rules’ campaign as ''self serving’’ and claim the Fair Work laws already give too much power to unions.
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Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 7:14am
 
Its a real problem. Not sure why they need to advertise though. Perhaps a lot of the people who arent forced into casual labour arent aware. I had a friend who was casual for 30 years then 1 day they said to her "dont come in tomorrow". No super or anything.

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Reply #2 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 7:26am
 
The only way to change the laws is to change government.

Looking forward to landslide labor victory  Smiley
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Reply #3 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 7:26am
 
It should be the right of every man to withdraw his labor.

That rule is gone.
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Reply #4 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 8:40am
 
The massive problems with IR laws have built up over time as a result of conservative governments squeezing workers too hard. Labor were in office for two terms but couldn't do enough to fix the problem.

The workplace laws are far too heavily slanted in favour of employers and that must be changed. We need to restore the right to strike, put strong downward pressure on casualisation, crack down on unpaid overtime, greatly increase the penalties for employers who harm their employees including prison terms for workplace deaths, abolish sham contracting, allow workers to sue employers for massive sums of money who hire replacement staff during lockouts or for unpaid wages, take much stronger action to combat wage theft including prison terms for employers, and so on.

The assertion by employer groups that IR laws are slanted in favour of unions is ludicrous nonsense.
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Reply #5 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:06am
 
what exactly does the ACTU want changed??



it always seems to me.....


all they really want is more POWER FOR THE UNIONS...more reason for their being....


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Since the Rudd government was elected, union membership has continued to slide from 19 per cent of the workforce in 2007 to 15.6 per cent a decade later.



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It would not disclose how much it would spend but it is expected to be at least several million dollars with advertising on TV, online, print, radio and billboards.



they owe it to their members to say how much of their money they are spending...

if a CEO of big business spent their workers money on advertising for the Liberal   I am sure there would be many complaining!!!!!!  on here at any rate! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I have no idea what MASSIVE PROBLEMS exists with IR laws.......

we are in huge changing times... it is a sad fact of life many jobs do not exist anymore  and it wont be long before bus drivers will be a thing of the past....its got seriously nothing to do with big business....

its called

progress..

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Reply #6 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:18am
 
Bobby wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
It should be the right of every man to withdraw his labor.

That rule is gone.


Its been gone a long time and it was never the right thing to do. It is almost a basic human right.

The only effective way in which employees can protect their safety and protect their standards in the workplace.
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Reply #7 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:24am
 
cods wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:06am:
what exactly does the ACTU want changed??



it always seems to me.....


all they really want is more POWER FOR THE UNIONS...more reason for their being....


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Since the Rudd government was elected, union membership has continued to slide from 19 per cent of the workforce in 2007 to 15.6 per cent a decade later.



Quote:
It would not disclose how much it would spend but it is expected to be at least several million dollars with advertising on TV, online, print, radio and billboards.



they owe it to their members to say how much of their money they are spending...

if a CEO of big business spent their workers money on advertising for the Liberal   I am sure there would be many complaining!!!!!!  on here at any rate! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I have no idea what MASSIVE PROBLEMS exists with IR laws.......

we are in huge changing times... it is a sad fact of life many jobs do not exist anymore  and it wont be long before bus drivers will be a thing of the past....its got seriously nothing to do with big business....

its called

progress..



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all they really want is more POWER FOR THE UNIONS...more reason for their being....


The problems in IR are real and have to be fixed, you could not be further from the truth.


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they owe it to their members to say how much of their money they are spending...


Their members are the ones asking for this to happen. You wouldn't be thinking that union members would want to continue indefinitely with no pay rises in a system skewed against them ?

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if a CEO of big business spent their workers money on advertising for the Liberal 


What do you mean if - they do.

Besides this isn't advertising for Labor this is advertising for employees. This is clearly part of their job.
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Reply #8 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:32am
 
whiteknight wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 5:45am:
Unions attack work laws with biggest ad campaign in decade
Sydney Morning Herald
11 March 2018

Unions will launch their biggest advertising push in more than a decade as part of a pre-election campaign to overhaul Australia’s workplace laws.   Smiley

ACTU secretary Sally McManus said big business had too much power, insecure work was rife while workers were struggling to get pay rises.   Sad


C'mon Sally why worry about the laws. I thought you said people should break the law if they feel like it.
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Re: Unions Attack Work Laws With Biggest Ad Campaign
Reply #9 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 10:51am
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 9:18am:
Bobby wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 7:26am:
It should be the right of every man to withdraw his labor.

That rule is gone.


Its been gone a long time and it was never the right thing to do. It is almost a basic human right.

The only effective way in which employees can protect their safety and protect their standards in the workplace.



And wasn't it the Labor party that brought in that law?
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Reply #10 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:27am
 
'' Quote:
They’re sick of one-third of big businesses not paying tax.


.....how much tax does the ACTU pay?
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Reply #11 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:27am:
'' Quote:
They’re sick of one-third of big businesses not paying tax.


.....how much tax does the ACTU pay?


Good question big S guy.

Unions: fantastic tax-free businesses protected by law


Here’s some uplifting news that could make your weekend.

Despite all the doom and gloom — falling wages in real terms, falling private investment, falling consumer confidence, falling retail spending, rising energy costs, higher taxes and a federal government that has gone loco, expanding itself and spending like mad — some businesses are doing rather well.

At Workplace Express, an online industrial relations news service, there recently was an article about two unions experiencing such marvellous trading conditions, they’ve expanded into better buildings.

Named after Joseph Stalin in 1925, Stalingrad (now known as Volgograd), was regarded as the industrial capital of communist Russia. In Australia’s deep south, Stalingrad’s virtual sister city, Melbourne — or “Melbourne­grad”, as it is referred to in our household — remains the industrial relations capital of Australia and the core stronghold of the union movement.

In this city, despite being sued, prosecuted and fined with monotonous regularity, the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union (construction and general division) recently sold its building at 500 Swanston Street for $27 million to continue its merry climb up the prestige property ladder. Its 2016 financials say the CFMEU has 25,211 members, annual revenue of about $31m and spent $5m on legal fees and costs. The group has net assets of $58m. After the sale completes, the CFMEU will move to 532-540 Elizabeth Street, a building it purchased for $30m. This building was bought off another union, which sold it to move to a new home purchased for $68m.

According to the figures released last month, union membership density in the private sector is sitting at 10.4 per cent, the lowest it has been in our nation’s history. Despite having — on paper — fewer clients than ever, unions are going from strength to strength.

In fact, just on the data available, as a group, union bosses could be Australia’s most successful entrepreneurs; financial miracle workers, creating wealth out of thin air, and the best business managers in the country.

Of course, unions enjoy two stunning advantages created for them by a past Labor government. I’m not sure what these grand “reforms” did for the rest of us but the introduction of enterprise bargaining and compulsory national superannuation put unions on the path to stratospheric wealth and power.

Thanks to enterprise bargaining and superannuation, unions don’t need workers to join unions, they only need employers to make superannuation contributions and enter into bargaining arrangements where the union takes an income stream.

History has shown that if unions wish, they can operate above the law with almost complete impunity. As well, they can misuse their position in enterprise bargaining processes to secure alternative revenue streams, harvested from the business they are dealing with, which becomes the union’s client.

For example, a union can have an employer pay income protection insurance premiums for all employees to a union-owned insurance business or an insurance business that simply pays the union a kickback.

In the past, the details of these arrangements have not been disclosed to workers, and the insurance has been priced at an exorbitant level for a substandard product.

Recent reforms in this area, introduced by the Coalition, mean full disclosure must now be made and the product must be charged at commercial rates.

However, given the ease with which unions and employers collude to scam workers and seem to get away with it, I remain sceptical that the reforms will prevent unethical conduct and thwart unions and employers from colluding to benefit each other and rip the workers off.

Industry superannuation funds continue to grow in wealth and power, too, completely unabated. Industry funds own stakes in buildings that various governments rent. Malcolm Turnbull has offices in Sydney, rented in a building part-owned by CBUS, the CFMEU’s super fund. Basically, our Prime Minister is a tenant where the CFMEU is one of the landlords.

In Queensland, the state government resides in a $653m, 43-storey office tower, built by CBUS Property. This arrangement was put in place in the first year of the previous Liberal government. Just why past premier Campbell Newman chose CBUS over several other builders who tendered remains one of the great mysteries of the universe.

On top of all that, the revenue raised by doing whatever it is unions do now remains
tax-exempt.


Unions are simply businesses. Imagine operating a business with a captive market created by a legal framework set up to ensure you succeed, without having to pay federal taxes — it would be impossible to fail, wouldn’t it?

On that note — and this suggestion will fall on deaf Canberra ears, given the government seems to love whacking taxes on all and sundry, especially the hardest working and most valuable in the economy — isn’t it past time we taxed all “registered industrial organisations”, unions and employer groups?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/unions-fantastic-taxfree-business...

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Reply #12 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 1:58pm
 
Does Sally know how amusing she is? Listening to her chastise big business not paying tax is like taking weight control advice from George Christensen.
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Reply #13 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 3:45pm
 
Swagman wrote on Mar 11th, 2018 at 11:27am:
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They’re sick of one-third of big businesses not paying tax.


.....how much tax does the ACTU pay?

About the same as political parties and churches.
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Reply #14 - Mar 11th, 2018 at 4:25pm
 
The absolute absurdity of the GetUp! inspired BlackDay parroting Lefty nonsense about the corrupt Commo unions who are sending Australia to the dogs as they force Australian industry to close is brought sharply into focus when one considers just how IRRELEVANT the long past their use by date corrupt Commo unions really are when one notes that the union membership is ONLY 10% now and falling daily.

The simple fact is that most Australians now see the unions as some sort of spurious evil from the long distant past that provide no benefit at all in the workplace and in fact are the ENEMY of employment.

Now the corrupt irrelevant Commo unions would be bankrupt if they could not raid people's industry SUPER and commit illegal acts of extortion and sabotage against industry.

The irrelevant unions are in it ONLY for themselves and they don't give a stuff about the workers who they try to throw out of a job.

And now the proposed merger of some of the unions into one giant Corrupt Comm goulash is being challenged as an act of Treason against Australia.

Why do the shrinking unions want to merge ?

Well a meeting of the members looks a bit ridiculous when only 20 or so remaining members show up and so the unions reckon by merging their meetings of the members won't look so embarrassing.

It's gotten so the unions have to hire Rent a Crowds (like the equally irrelevant Greenies do) at their meetings to stop looking so pathetic.

In fact the equally irrelevant unions and the Greenies are in a race to see who disappears first!!!!

And the very strong suspicion that the Chinese are paying the unions to use their extortion and sabotage to force Australian businesses to close so the work goes to China remains very very strong - like the smell of the fear coming from LW's armpits especially after the brilliant Tasmanian victory for good govt.


Gosh, you can almost feel the Lefties wince.
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