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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #60 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Let the monkeys come

3 or  4 would freed 1 crock.

And being as stooopid these monkeys are, they wouldn't realize that their numbers were thinning, because they can't count beyond .1

That's why they keep sticking up their finger.

It's as high as they can count.

Dum monkeys..........nuke em all


Where do we get the nukes from, Matty?

And what happens when the radiation blows back to Darwin and kills off our Boongs?


It's ok analkanal

Australia has no nukes

Our aircraft, ships and soldiers are nuke capable for show.

As far as our monkey neighbours know, we don't got no nukes

Wink wink, nudge nudge


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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #61 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:27pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Let the monkeys come

3 or  4 would freed 1 crock.

And being as stooopid these monkeys are, they wouldn't realize that their numbers were thinning, because they can't count beyond .1

That's why they keep sticking up their finger.

It's as high as they can count.

Dum monkeys..........nuke em all


Where do we get the nukes from, Matty?

And what happens when the radiation blows back to Darwin and kills off our Boongs?


It's ok analkanal

Australia has no nukes

Our aircraft, ships and soldiers are nuke capable for show.

As far as our monkey neighbours know, we don't got no nukes

Wink wink, nudge nudge




Oh, I see. We're a nuclear power, eh?

Would you like to answer the question about our Boongs?
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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #62 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:32pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Let the monkeys come

3 or  4 would freed 1 crock.

And being as stooopid these monkeys are, they wouldn't realize that their numbers were thinning, because they can't count beyond .1

That's why they keep sticking up their finger.

It's as high as they can count.

Dum monkeys..........nuke em all


Where do we get the nukes from, Matty?

And what happens when the radiation blows back to Darwin and kills off our Boongs?


It's ok analkanal

Australia has no nukes

Our aircraft, ships and soldiers are nuke capable for show.

As far as our monkey neighbours know, we don't got no nukes

Wink wink, nudge nudge




Oh, I see. We're a nuclear power, eh?

Would you like to answer the question about our Boongs?


Win win
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #63 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:37pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Let the monkeys come

3 or  4 would freed 1 crock.

And being as stooopid these monkeys are, they wouldn't realize that their numbers were thinning, because they can't count beyond .1

That's why they keep sticking up their finger.

It's as high as they can count.

Dum monkeys..........nuke em all


Where do we get the nukes from, Matty?

And what happens when the radiation blows back to Darwin and kills off our Boongs?


It's ok analkanal

Australia has no nukes

Our aircraft, ships and soldiers are nuke capable for show.

As far as our monkey neighbours know, we don't got no nukes

Wink wink, nudge nudge




Oh, I see. We're a nuclear power, eh?

Would you like to answer the question about our Boongs?


Win win


So we should take out the monkeys in Bali and our own city of Darwin, eh?

Which country did you say you're from again, Matty?
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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #64 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:45pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Let the monkeys come

3 or  4 would freed 1 crock.

And being as stooopid these monkeys are, they wouldn't realize that their numbers were thinning, because they can't count beyond .1

That's why they keep sticking up their finger.

It's as high as they can count.

Dum monkeys..........nuke em all


Where do we get the nukes from, Matty?

And what happens when the radiation blows back to Darwin and kills off our Boongs?


It's ok analkanal

Australia has no nukes

Our aircraft, ships and soldiers are nuke capable for show.

As far as our monkey neighbours know, we don't got no nukes

Wink wink, nudge nudge




Oh, I see. We're a nuclear power, eh?

Would you like to answer the question about our Boongs?


Win win


So we should take out the monkeys in Bali and our own city of Darwin, eh?

Which country did you say you're from again, Matty?


You once again show your ignorance and stooopidity FOOL.

Perhaps analkarnal should read analcerebrum?

How big do you think a nuke is FOOL?
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #65 - Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Karnal wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Valkie wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Let the monkeys come

3 or  4 would freed 1 crock.

And being as stooopid these monkeys are, they wouldn't realize that their numbers were thinning, because they can't count beyond .1

That's why they keep sticking up their finger.

It's as high as they can count.

Dum monkeys..........nuke em all


Where do we get the nukes from, Matty?

And what happens when the radiation blows back to Darwin and kills off our Boongs?


It's ok analkanal

Australia has no nukes

Our aircraft, ships and soldiers are nuke capable for show.

As far as our monkey neighbours know, we don't got no nukes

Wink wink, nudge nudge




Oh, I see. We're a nuclear power, eh?

Would you like to answer the question about our Boongs?


Win win


So we should take out the monkeys in Bali and our own city of Darwin, eh?

Which country did you say you're from again, Matty?


You once again show your ignorance and stooopidity FOOL.

Perhaps analkarnal should read analcerebrum?

How big do you think a nuke is FOOL?


Big enough, Matty.

Or are you suggesting we should outsource our nuclear program to North Korea?

In that case a bit smaller than our fairweather friends the Septic Tanks, but not very accurate, I'd say.

Can't we just blow up their discussion boards? That could work.
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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #66 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2018 at 6:30am:
Armed forces personnel      
Australian....51,000
Ranked 67th.      

Indonesia....297,000
Ranked 16th. 6 times more than Australia

it looks so easy from a lounge room point of view.


However, once you get down and examine the differences you have Australia has 51,000 full time personnel.  In addition it has another 21,000 Reserve personnel, many of whom have done full time operational service in Soloman Islands, East Timor, Afghanistan.   In addition, the ADF is equipped with high-tech equipment and soon to receive even more advanced equipment in the near future.

Indonesia, OTOH has the majority of it's personnel serving in the Police - which are considered to be part of the military.  Further, while the Indonesian Army has a large number of units, most are smaller than the ADF's comparable units (450 men per Battalion as against 800-900 in the ADF).  Wikipedia makes the follow point:

Quote:
the International Institute for Strategic Studies' Military Balance 2007 lists the Army with 2 brigades, (6 battalions), plus 60 other battalions in each Military districts ("Kodam") and nine battalions in Kostrad.[19]

[Source]

Most Indonesian battalions are lightly equipped and lack transport and support elements common to ADF units.  They are assigned primarily to internal security duties, whereas all the ADF units are combat capable.

Konstrad assigned units are directly comparable to ADF units.   However, that is only approximately 40-50,000 men.

Then there is the problem of transporting large numbers of troops to our "Top End".  The Indonesians lack that capability.   While they purchased at the end of the Cold War a large number of ex-East German landing craft, they are assigned to support the civilian economy, being used on inter-island transportation services.

They are re-equipping with German Leopard and Marder MICVs.   However they are relatively small in number and they lack the means of transporting them to the Top End.   Our M1a1 AIM MBTs are their match, while we have a large number of M113s and Bushmasters as well as ASLAVs.    We are about to be re-equipped under LAND 4000 a new IFV (more than likely German Boxers).

Our air force is superior to theirs in numbers and capability.   We have excellent AEW&C aircraft and tankers, which allows us to attack their homeland more easily.   They have a small number of Su27 style fighters.  They have an even smaller number of F-5 fighters.    We have over 75 F/A-18As and Bs fighters.  We have about 36 F-18F&G Strike aircraft.  Soon we will have F-35 JSFs.

Even if they were to attack the Top End, what would they capture?  Darwin?  A small country town.   A few resource sites and a very small population base.   We can destroy most of what they capture on the day they capture it. 

Indonesia is a close match to our defence forces.   It's superiority is based on numbers and numbers prove little apart from your ability to govern your own fractious nation, Cods.   Roll Eyes



The indon army, navy & air-force provide nothing more a target rich environment.  They are a country we could bomb into the fkken stone-age without too much effort. And we have always been capable of bringing them to their knees


They are capable of killing women and children, not going up against a vastly superior war machine like ours.


It is only our moral weakness that makes them the viscous pricks they are.


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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #67 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:48pm
 
Where was the United bloody Nations in all of this?

As usual this toothless tiger wasn't seen off Nobby's

The U.N. don't mind getting involved in having their hand out to nations to give them money and open their borders but when it comes to confrontation you won't see the U.N. anywhere
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Reply #68 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:52pm
 
It's arguable that Australia was not in a moral position to lecture other countries about genocide and other atrocities after Australia's history in those crimes.

It is very likely that the Indonesian action happened with the implicit consent of Australia and USA for anti-communism reasons.

Australia and USA did not want a Timor that could become communist-ruled.
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Reply #69 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:16pm
 
Looks like the fool is at it again

I think his avitar is an accurate representation of his actual face

Unforeskin the fool that just keeps giving........stoopidity
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Reply #70 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:20pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:52pm:
It's arguable that Australia was not in a moral position to lecture other countries about genocide and other atrocities after Australia's history in those crimes.

It is very likely that the Indonesian action happened with the implicit consent of Australia and USA for anti-communism reasons.

Australia and USA did not want a Timor that could become communist-ruled.

Are you a New Zealander?
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Reply #71 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:40pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:20pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:52pm:
It's arguable that Australia was not in a moral position to lecture other countries about genocide and other atrocities after Australia's history in those crimes.

It is very likely that the Indonesian action happened with the implicit consent of Australia and USA for anti-communism reasons.

Australia and USA did not want a Timor that could become communist-ruled.

Are you a New Zealander?


You have evidently mistaken me for Gordon.

Here's Gordon. Good luck.

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Reply #72 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:20pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm:
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2018 at 6:30am:
Armed forces personnel      
Australian....51,000
Ranked 67th.      

Indonesia....297,000
Ranked 16th. 6 times more than Australia

it looks so easy from a lounge room point of view.


However, once you get down and examine the differences you have Australia has 51,000 full time personnel.  In addition it has another 21,000 Reserve personnel, many of whom have done full time operational service in Soloman Islands, East Timor, Afghanistan.   In addition, the ADF is equipped with high-tech equipment and soon to receive even more advanced equipment in the near future.

Indonesia, OTOH has the majority of it's personnel serving in the Police - which are considered to be part of the military.  Further, while the Indonesian Army has a large number of units, most are smaller than the ADF's comparable units (450 men per Battalion as against 800-900 in the ADF).  Wikipedia makes the follow point:

Quote:
the International Institute for Strategic Studies' Military Balance 2007 lists the Army with 2 brigades, (6 battalions), plus 60 other battalions in each Military districts ("Kodam") and nine battalions in Kostrad.[19]

[Source]

Most Indonesian battalions are lightly equipped and lack transport and support elements common to ADF units.  They are assigned primarily to internal security duties, whereas all the ADF units are combat capable.

Konstrad assigned units are directly comparable to ADF units.   However, that is only approximately 40-50,000 men.

Then there is the problem of transporting large numbers of troops to our "Top End".  The Indonesians lack that capability.   While they purchased at the end of the Cold War a large number of ex-East German landing craft, they are assigned to support the civilian economy, being used on inter-island transportation services.

They are re-equipping with German Leopard and Marder MICVs.   However they are relatively small in number and they lack the means of transporting them to the Top End.   Our M1a1 AIM MBTs are their match, while we have a large number of M113s and Bushmasters as well as ASLAVs.    We are about to be re-equipped under LAND 4000 a new IFV (more than likely German Boxers).

Our air force is superior to theirs in numbers and capability.   We have excellent AEW&C aircraft and tankers, which allows us to attack their homeland more easily.   They have a small number of Su27 style fighters.  They have an even smaller number of F-5 fighters.    We have over 75 F/A-18As and Bs fighters.  We have about 36 F-18F&G Strike aircraft.  Soon we will have F-35 JSFs.

Even if they were to attack the Top End, what would they capture?  Darwin?  A small country town.   A few resource sites and a very small population base.   We can destroy most of what they capture on the day they capture it. 

Indonesia is a close match to our defence forces.   It's superiority is based on numbers and numbers prove little apart from your ability to govern your own fractious nation, Cods.   Roll Eyes


The indon army, navy & air-force provide nothing more a target rich environment.  They are a country we could bomb into the fkken stone-age without too much effort. And we have always been capable of bringing them to their knees

They are capable of killing women and children, not going up against a vastly superior war machine like ours.

It is only our moral weakness that makes them the viscous pricks they are.


Today, perhaps.  In 1960, no way.  In 1975, no way.   

Today, however we would be going to war with a democracy, BigOl64 and we both have McDonalds operating in our cities - it doesn't look good for either side.   Remember, to win a war you need the support of your people and Australia has wasted a lot of that good will in going to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

We would also lose out on Bali - Australia's tropical playground.   That would not be popular with the Bogans in Sydney and Melbourne (and the rest of Oz).

We get most of what we need from the present government in Jakarta.   They have stopped the boats, they have stopped the Terrorists and stopped the drug trade.  While it would be good if they stopped their antics in West New Guinea, its not going to happen because we won't be doing it without our "great and powerful friends" across the Pacific.    Roll Eyes


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Re: Why we should all be ashamed to be Australian
Reply #73 - Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
red baron wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 3:48pm:
Where was the United bloody Nations in all of this?

As usual this toothless tiger wasn't seen off Nobby's

The U.N. don't mind getting involved in having their hand out to nations to give them money and open their borders but when it comes to confrontation you won't see the U.N. anywhere


The UN is what it's member states make it.   It has never been successful at "confrontation".  That is not it's job and I am unsure why you assume it is.    Roll Eyes
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