Yadda wrote on Apr 21^st, 2018 at 8:51pm:


That's a stupid reply, and I think even you know it.

You would be the first to cite the religion of the Islamic mass-murderers, and so would I, but I am not going to turnaround and say these other fanatics are not what they profess. That is what Islamophobia-theorists use as one of their principal defenses.

Barnacle said.... Quote:


Yadda wrote on Apr 21^st, 2018 at 8:51pm:




issuevoter wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2018 at 7:55am:



issue,

Not at all [stupid].

I simply associated any person [like Barnacle] who would state that
'Adolf Hitler was a Christian',
with the intellectual dis-honesty of someone who would seek to have others believe,
that the moon was made of green cheese.

And i may say, that       it is stupid of you,      not to recognise that point of argument.





ARGUMENT;
Jesus reputedly called upon men to follow these principles in life;



Matthew 19:16-19


Yet,      though we know that Jesus reputedly left those admonitions for all men, as principles to follow in life,
Barnacle         would have us believe, that it is a credible statement to make,
to suggest that Adolf Hitler loved the teachings of Jesus [Christ] or that Adolf Hitler was an adherent of the teachings of Jesus [Christ],
and that    'Adolf Hitler was a Christian'.


How absurd,     for atheists like Barnacle,
to seek to associate the human ambitions and human motivations of a human being like Adolf Hitler,
with the moral ambitions [for mankind] of the [historical] personage of [the man] Jesus [Christ].



.



Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Matthew 12:47
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48  But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49  And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50  For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


As per......

Matthew 19:16
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Setanta wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2018 at 9:27pm:


You are correct,    .....probably.

I am a flawed human being.


Guilty.


"For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me."


Forgiven.




Setanta wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2018 at 9:27pm:


And if it is true, would it offend you Setanta ?

And, are we [any of us], better than Hitler ?


'From whence come Hitlers among us ?'

"From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts."


We are all guilty before God mate.

All, dirty, and unworthy.


I don't in any sense, seek justification, from my creator.

I seek the healing he offers me.

@ Reply #36,


issue,      i assure you, i'm not that cleaver

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 12:22am:


That's just the Devil whispering in your ear.

Atheism is the word used by the Media/Scientific 'Anti' Religious part of the world, to describe their 'non-believing' of Religion, but their 'lack of' being able to believe in anything else.

They deny there was a Jewish Messiah, that was killed by his Jewish 'people'.
Even though recently, there was a Jewish 'people' killed by their Jewish 'prophet' back in the 1940's.

I wonder what the scientists are going to say about the Moslems changing their ways once a Messiah dies for their sins, out of France?
Explain that ...Science?
Explain the fundamental 'existence' of Religion itself?