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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #15 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:10am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 12:15am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 10:04am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:49am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:26am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 6:19am:

Because they grew up on their land and its us thats taking it away from them

Spot

We also grew up 'our land' here and it wasn't their land - it's been 230 years since the First Fleet - are you proposing that all Whites be disenfranchised of their land that they bought and paid for, to satisfy some mythical claim that the Aboriginals can put it to better use and always did?

Are you suggesting that because someone is White they have no rights to any land or anything else, regardless of how many generations their family has been here developing all the good things that are enjoyed and used by all?

Nobody took it away from them - they lost it to a group that put it all to better use and made life easier and better for them.

I move they hand back all the white man's accoutrements they use so freely and go back to nomadic hunting as their only means of sustenance. We'll leave them totally alone as long as they leave us totally alone and give each other nothing of the rich bounty of our cultures.

That'll trim the tribes...

No I am proposing that we leave them alone and stop trying to make them "white". Let them keep what they have.

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I'm all for that as long as our stupid gov doesn't start bringing them here when it all goes pear shaped Sad

Also people should stop donating money to them so they can't keep breeding. If they haven't worked out how to make clean water by now then they never will !

Yeah well we prolly should stop polluting their water

Spot

What does that mean? Who's polluting what water that Aboriginals use?

If you're talking about South Africa - who's this 'WE', White Man?

Your grand-parents rob a few million African Kaffirs of their land and their rights to hunt down and spear other Africans? Your parents? You doing that right now?

How, when, where and why?

What is this apportioning of racial blame for anything over which the majority of people had no say or interest or involvement at all, whether it was right or wrong by whatever standard?

Did you read the post? Aboriginals never had to "make clean water"before their land started getting mined.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #16 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:11am

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 6:19am:

Because they grew up on their land and its us thats taking it away from them

Spot

Black Africans in South Africa are mostly immigrants after white people settled the land. How are they going to tell the difference between descendants of black South Africans and descendants of black Africans who moved to South Africa when they found out white people were producing food?

Aboriginal people did not do much with the land before white people arrived. Aborigines hunted and fished and gathered their food. But when white people put a value on the land that aborigines did not know, that is when land ownership took place.

Yeah you took my sentence out of the quote and made it about something it wasnt. I was obviously talking about aboriginals.

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Reply #17 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:57am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:10am:

Did you read the post? Aboriginals never had to "make clean water"before their land started getting mined.

Spot

Ah - mining ventures..... OK - that's not 'we'- that's mining ventures with the permission of government.

My issue is with this group blame/punishment/guilt that is handed around like donations at a political party meeting, only to everyone of a specified social/ethnic group.

We The People are no more responsible for the abuses of mining ventures with the permission of government than we have any right to prevent those ventures going ahead.

We The People are not government, though we vote for government and the people in government are part of We The People.... it's not as simple as 'Us' and "Them'. Furthermore, such decisions are largely made by non-elected government bodies under the guidance of the elected representatives and parties. Thus We the People have little to no say in it - and 'we' are therefore not responsible for what we have no power or control over.

Aboriginals didn't necessarily have 'clean' water -they drank what was available and their mortality rate was massive due to the common illnesses, many of them water-borne, such as cholera and intestinal worms. Worms aren't necessarily fatal but they reduce the ability of the organism to thrive and thus lead generally to earlier death.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #18 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 11:06am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:10am:

Did you read the post? Aboriginals never had to "make clean water"before their land started getting mined.

Spot

Ah - mining ventures..... OK - that's not 'we'- that's mining ventures with the permission of government.

My issue is with this group blame/punishment/guilt that is handed around like donations at a political party meeting, only to everyone of a specified social/ethnic group.

We The People are no more responsible for the abuses of mining ventures with the permission of government than we have any right to prevent those ventures going ahead.

We The People are not government, though we vote for government and the people in government are part of We The People.... it's not as simple as 'Us' and "Them'.

Aboriginals didn't necessarily have 'clean' water -they drank what was available and their mortality rate was massive due to the common illnesses, many of them water-borne, such as cholera and intestinal worms. Worms aren't necessarily fatal but they reduce the ability of the organism to thrive and thus lead generally to earlier death.

Yeah okay fair enough but they the people arent responsible for their lifestyle becoming unliveable either.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #19 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 11:38am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 11:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:10am:

Did you read the post? Aboriginals never had to "make clean water"before their land started getting mined.

Spot

Ah - mining ventures..... OK - that's not 'we'- that's mining ventures with the permission of government.

My issue is with this group blame/punishment/guilt that is handed around like donations at a political party meeting, only to everyone of a specified social/ethnic group.

We The People are no more responsible for the abuses of mining ventures with the permission of government than we have any right to prevent those ventures going ahead.

We The People are not government, though we vote for government and the people in government are part of We The People.... it's not as simple as 'Us' and "Them'.

Aboriginals didn't necessarily have 'clean' water -they drank what was available and their mortality rate was massive due to the common illnesses, many of them water-borne, such as cholera and intestinal worms. Worms aren't necessarily fatal but they reduce the ability of the organism to thrive and thus lead generally to earlier death.

Yeah okay fair enough but they the people arent responsible for their lifestyle becoming unliveable either.

Spot

So we blame Corporate Australia Inc?

I'm all for Aboriginals objecting to some of these mining ventures that cause so much harm in return for so little good. A united front on that score.

Mining is an issue that needs a long and serious look, so as to secure for THIS nation and its people the best outcome, not the best outcome for the global economy leeches, many of whom sit on our payroll in Canberra etc and fatten nicely for their future 'retirement' into a job with the same corporations.

That includes environmental damage done and not repaired.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #20 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 11:47am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 6:19am:

Because they grew up on their land and its us thats taking it away from them

Spot

We also grew up 'our land' here and it wasn't their land - it's been 230 years since the First Fleet - are you proposing that all Whites be disenfranchised of their land that they bought and paid for, to satisfy some mythical claim that the Aboriginals can put it to better use and always did?

Are you suggesting that because someone is White they have no rights to any land or anything else, regardless of how many generations their family has been here developing all the good things that are enjoyed and used by all?

Nobody took it away from them - they lost it to a group that put it all to better use and made life easier and better for them.

I move they hand back all the white man's accoutrements they use so freely and go back to nomadic hunting as their only means of sustenance. We'll leave them totally alone as long as they leave us totally alone and give each other nothing of the rich bounty of our cultures.

That'll trim the tribes...

Imagine you are on your land by the beach. Two strange men landed there. Men1 paid Men 2 some money. And Men2 turned around and said to you, get out, this is men1's land now, that he bought and paid for. He is better using this land than you do. You are nothing, your kind just have being moved to a location 300 km from here inland. Now go and rot.

What would you do?

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #21 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 12:18pm

tickleandrose wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 11:47am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 6:19am:

Because they grew up on their land and its us thats taking it away from them

Spot

We also grew up 'our land' here and it wasn't their land - it's been 230 years since the First Fleet - are you proposing that all Whites be disenfranchised of their land that they bought and paid for, to satisfy some mythical claim that the Aboriginals can put it to better use and always did?

Are you suggesting that because someone is White they have no rights to any land or anything else, regardless of how many generations their family has been here developing all the good things that are enjoyed and used by all?

Nobody took it away from them - they lost it to a group that put it all to better use and made life easier and better for them.

I move they hand back all the white man's accoutrements they use so freely and go back to nomadic hunting as their only means of sustenance. We'll leave them totally alone as long as they leave us totally alone and give each other nothing of the rich bounty of our cultures.

That'll trim the tribes...

Imagine you are on your land by the beach. Two strange men landed there. Men1 paid Men 2 some money. And Men2 turned around and said to you, get out, this is men1's land now, that he bought and paid for. He is better using this land than you do. You are nothing, your kind just have being moved to a location 300 km from here inland. Now go and rot.

What would you do?

Not a realistic comparison - the two men who landed also grew up here, and the law would ensure they didn't steal what was not theirs. If you foolishly sold your land for a song, that is your own fault.

If, for example, two blokes from across the river came here in their boat and offered me ten pahnd for my house... I'd laugh, and there is no way they could force me to sell.

That's the difference - we have a rule of law here now, and such things are illegal. Besides - nobody said to them to 'get out', they were simply steadily pushed out, much like modern Australians in the ghetto areas were and are. Many such leave the big cities in search of a better life, while many Aboriginals go to the big cities in search of a better life.... funny that.

You simply cannot compare a sparsely inhabited land and a sparse infusion with the modern times.... and the 'rotting' was no different from their accustomed lifestyle anyway.

Everything was different 230 years ago.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #23 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:19pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:26am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 6:19am:

Because they grew up on their land and its us thats taking it away from them

Spot

We also grew up 'our land' here and it wasn't their land - it's been 230 years since the First Fleet - are you proposing that all Whites be disenfranchised of their land that they bought and paid for, to satisfy some mythical claim that the Aboriginals can put it to better use and always did?

Are you suggesting that because someone is White they have no rights to any land or anything else, regardless of how many generations their family has been here developing all the good things that are enjoyed and used by all?

Nobody took it away from them - they lost it to a group that put it all to better use and made life easier and better for them.

I move they hand back all the white man's accoutrements they use so freely and go back to nomadic hunting as their only means of sustenance. We'll leave them totally alone as long as they leave us totally alone and give each other nothing of the rich bounty of our cultures.

That'll trim the tribes...

No I am proposing that we leave them alone and stop trying to make them "white". Let them keep what they have.

Spot

And what's that?

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #24 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:22pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:22am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 7:43am:

Well looks like South Africa will be a basket case like Zimbabwe in a few years time.

Worse. Just watch. By all means open the gates to SA Whites and they'll fit in just nicely - wonder if they'll get refugee status... leave South Africa to the Blacks to turn back into a turd factory of murder and mayhem .... no aid, no nothing...

My sentiments exactly ... & especially regarding "no aid, no nothing" .... when the hand comes out in the near future when they're starving.

This is the icing on the cake with SA joining the rest of the African nations and finally making the whole continent a complete basket case.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #25 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:32pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 11:06am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 10:10am:

Did you read the post? Aboriginals never had to "make clean water"before their land started getting mined.

Spot

Ah - mining ventures..... OK - that's not 'we'- that's mining ventures with the permission of government.

My issue is with this group blame/punishment/guilt that is handed around like donations at a political party meeting, only to everyone of a specified social/ethnic group.

We The People are no more responsible for the abuses of mining ventures with the permission of government than we have any right to prevent those ventures going ahead.

We The People are not government, though we vote for government and the people in government are part of We The People.... it's not as simple as 'Us' and "Them'.

Aboriginals didn't necessarily have 'clean' water -they drank what was available and their mortality rate was massive due to the common illnesses, many of them water-borne, such as cholera and intestinal worms. Worms aren't necessarily fatal but they reduce the ability of the organism to thrive and thus lead generally to earlier death.

Yeah okay fair enough but they the people arent responsible for their lifestyle becoming unliveable either.

Spot

You're joking right?

Do feel hot & humid & does the air have a certain malodorous wif to it?

I'd suggest you pull your head out of your arze & have another look.

Yes they are completely responsible for their lifestyle becoming unlivable ....

no one else is trashing their homes, wasting their dole on drugs & alcohol or neglecting their children.

Unbelievable naivety.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #26 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:32pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:22am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 7:43am:

Well looks like South Africa will be a basket case like Zimbabwe in a few years time.

Worse. Just watch. By all means open the gates to SA Whites and they'll fit in just nicely - wonder if they'll get refugee status... leave South Africa to the Blacks to turn back into a turd factory of murder and mayhem .... no aid, no nothing....

Australia doesn't need mentally damaged people of the ilk of FleaDriver and Andrei Hicks.

Let the UK and the Netherlands take back their problems.

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #27 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:37pm

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:22am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 7:43am:

Well looks like South Africa will be a basket case like Zimbabwe in a few years time.

Worse. Just watch. By all means open the gates to SA Whites and they'll fit in just nicely - wonder if they'll get refugee status... leave South Africa to the Blacks to turn back into a turd factory of murder and mayhem .... no aid, no nothing....

Australia doesn't need mentally damaged people of the ilk of FleaDriver and Andrei Hicks.

Let the UK and the Netherlands take back their problems.

And where will you be off to?

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Re: Proposal by Black Racists ...
Reply #28 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:40pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:37pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 9:22am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 7:43am:

Well looks like South Africa will be a basket case like Zimbabwe in a few years time.

Worse. Just watch. By all means open the gates to SA Whites and they'll fit in just nicely - wonder if they'll get refugee status... leave South Africa to the Blacks to turn back into a turd factory of murder and mayhem .... no aid, no nothing....

Australia doesn't need mentally damaged people of the ilk of FleaDriver and Andrei Hicks.

Let the UK and the Netherlands take back their problems.

And where will you be off to?

Not Gnads' shack, that's for sure. I have perceived that I will not receive a Christmas card from Gnads this year.

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