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Reply #135 - Jun 2nd, 2019 at 7:58pm
 
Uranium reactors are so dangerous.
they operate at 70 atmospheres of pressure:





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Reply #136 - Jun 3rd, 2019 at 8:27am
 
and that's still 10 times less pressure that's need for hydrogen fuel cells. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #137 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:47am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 8:27am:
and that's still 10 times less pressure that's need for hydrogen fuel cells. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I don't think so but then again that's irrelevant.
We're talking about nuclear power not chemical energy.
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Reply #138 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 8:46am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:47am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 8:27am:
and that's still 10 times less pressure that's need for hydrogen fuel cells. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I don't think so but then again that's irrelevant.
We're talking about nuclear power not chemical energy.

any boiler type generator operates at high pressure, to get the steam to do its work, you do realize all of the next generation Nuk plants will have high pressures as well, so all thorium ones will have the same high pressures.... Wink
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Reply #139 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:02am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 8:46am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:47am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 8:27am:
and that's still 10 times less pressure that's need for hydrogen fuel cells. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I don't think so but then again that's irrelevant.
We're talking about nuclear power not chemical energy.

any boiler type generator operates at high pressure, to get the steam to do its work, you do realize all of the next generation Nuk plants will have high pressures as well, so all thorium ones will have the same high pressures.... Wink



Liquid molten fluoride salt reactors don't run
at high pressures but of course the heat exchanger
pipes have to run at high temperature and pressure.
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Reply #140 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 12:03pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:02am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 8:46am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:47am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 8:27am:
and that's still 10 times less pressure that's need for hydrogen fuel cells. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I don't think so but then again that's irrelevant.
We're talking about nuclear power not chemical energy.

any boiler type generator operates at high pressure, to get the steam to do its work, you do realize all of the next generation Nuk plants will have high pressures as well, so all thorium ones will have the same high pressures.... Wink



Liquid molten fluoride salt reactors don't run
at high pressures but of course the heat exchanger
pipes have to run at high temperature and pressure.

But the molten salt then boils water at very high pressure to steam drive the generators, so it will be working under 70 atmosphere's just like ever other steam generator....
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Reply #141 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 12:34pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 12:03pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 11:02am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 8:46am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 4th, 2019 at 5:47am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 3rd, 2019 at 8:27am:
and that's still 10 times less pressure that's need for hydrogen fuel cells. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



I don't think so but then again that's irrelevant.
We're talking about nuclear power not chemical energy.

any boiler type generator operates at high pressure, to get the steam to do its work, you do realize all of the next generation Nuk plants will have high pressures as well, so all thorium ones will have the same high pressures.... Wink



Liquid molten fluoride salt reactors don't run
at high pressures but of course the heat exchanger
pipes have to run at high temperature and pressure.

But the molten salt then boils water at very high pressure to steam drive the generators, so it will be working under 70 atmosphere's just like ever other steam generator....



You're wrong.
In a uranium reactor the whole assembly is
working at 70 atmospheres not just
the heat exchanger.


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Reply #142 - Jul 3rd, 2019 at 11:29pm
 



Thorium and the Future of Nuclear Energy


Energy too cheap to meter - that was the promise of nuclear power in the 1950s, at least according to Lewis Strauss chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission. That promise has not come to pass - but with some incredible new technologies, perhaps it still could. The question is - should it? Hosted by Matt O'Dowd Written by Matt O'Dowd Graphics by Leonardo Scholzer Directed by Andrew Kornhaber Produced By: Kornhaber Brown If we want to convert mass into energy, fission gives the most bang for our buck. Unfortunately that “bang” can be literal. Use of nuclear energy may risk the proliferation of nuclear weaponry, and there’s also the problem of nuclear waste, and the specter of horrible accidents. This last one was painted in terrifying detail in the recent dramatization of the Chernobyl disaster. Nuclear reactors sound scary because the disasters are pretty epic. However the reality is that far, far more people die from straight up air pollution due to coal-fired power plants than ever died in a nuclear reactor accident. In fact the radioactivity around coal-fired plants is also higher due to the trace but completely uncontained radioactive products of coal burning. But the most compelling attraction is that nuclear power doesn’t directly produce carbon emissions. In fact nuclear power may be our most sure path to reducing carbon emissions and halting climate change. But can we do nuclear power safely enough? There are modern ideas – including the much-hyped thorium reactor – that suggest maybe we can. Before we can understand those we’ll need to review how nuclear reactors work.
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Reply #143 - Jul 4th, 2019 at 4:17pm
 
To cheap hahahaha , Bob you know that is a crock of poo, ?
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Reply #144 - Jul 4th, 2019 at 5:28pm
 
BigP wrote on Jul 4th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
To cheap hahahaha , Bob you know that is a crock of poo, ?



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Reply #145 - Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:44pm
 
Thorium power got a mention on Q&A tonight.
It's a pity that none of them really knew about it.
It shows that these internet forums are where you'll find greater information.
The public has been misinformed by lawyers running the country
who don't understand technology.

The politicians should all be sacked & the Governor General
should appoint scientists to run this country.
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Reply #146 - Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:34am
 
Jump to 14:20.

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Reply #147 - Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2019 at 5:34am:
Jump to 14:20.



Jump to 18:15

60 Thorium reactors by 2025 in India -


that's in only 5 years
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Reply #148 - Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:01pm
 
Should Australia consider thorium nuclear power?


by Nigel Marks, The Conversation


https://phys.org/news/2015-03-australia-thorium-nuclear-power.html?utm_source=Tr...


New thorium-based reactors under construction in India and China will focus attention once again on the viability of thorium power. However, only time will tell whether thorium can strike a disruptive path forward.

From a national perspective, the development of thorium technology would be a major boost. Australia possesses around 10-15% of the world's thorium reserves, in addition to its 30% share of uranium reserves.


No thorium reactors operate commercially worldwide, whereas 430 operating uranium reactors produce 11% of global electricity. If Australia does eventually decide to build nuclear power plants, the best choice would almost certainly be a proven design based on existing third-generation uranium technology.

Such a decision is, however, a long way down the road. As a nation we haven't even managed to figure out the best way to handle slightly radioactive gloves in hospitals, let alone have a mature conversation about nuclear power.

The real question is whether Australia can find a way forward to have a civilised discussion about how to generate non-fossil baseload power. And so, by all means, we should talk about thorium, but let's not demonise uranium at the same time.
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Reply #149 - Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:05pm
 
The short-lived Molten Salt Reactor Experiment is far from forgotten


https://www.ornl.gov/news/msres-50th


October 15, 2015

October 15, 2015 – The Molten Salt Reactor Experiment (MSRE), which ran a brief four years in the 1960s but earned an enduring legacy as an innovative reactor technology concept, this year marks a half century since its June 1965 startup.

A workshop on molten salt reactor technologies, "From the MSRE to a New Emerging Class of Reactors 50 Years Later," is being held October 15-16 at the Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory, which developed the reactor.

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Alvin Weinberg, then the director of Oak Ridge National Laboratory, marks 6000 power hours performance of his brainchild, the Molten Salt Reactor Experiment, in October 1967.
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