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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #165 - Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:49pm

Frank wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

Nope. Why? 'cause I've had my share of hard knocks, Soren. Unlike you with your University of Balogny degree, hey? Roll Eyes

Poor boy Bwian, had his share of hard knocks to the head. Can't help it that he sent $50 for an online Doktorate. Aphasia, don't you know. Oh, yes.

BTW, I never said I had a degree from Bologna. All three of my degrees are from an Australian university. I did, however, study at the University of Bologna as well and it counted towards my Australian degrees.

I have no mail-order qualifications or certificates or vanity testimonials. That's for vain, preening idiots like you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Excuses, hey, Soren? Tsk, tsk. Keep them coming. We might believe your bullshit - one day. Roll Eyes

Excuses for your aphasia?? Not at all.

You are a vain, preening idiot, claiming'hard knocks' as an excuse for your vain idiocy.

As the Dean of Ardknox College, I can assure you we have/had no student named Brian Ross on our alumni lists.... reports in the media to the contrary are not supported by our records.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #166 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 12:03pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

I demand my white privilige. How about a little reward for effort?
Is that truly such a terrible thing?

I know I am the only person on this whole forum that has admitted that he is racist, (to my knowledge, but look forward to being corrected if there are any other honest people here) and I consider racism a natural state of mind for humanity, on a cultural level.
I am not keen on hate or bigotry, but I understand stereotypes do not materialise out of thin air, they develop through observation and judgement.
Honestly, we are all continuously judging everything, and evry one in our realm of experience. It is how we learn how to frame our world, and to create fantasy constructs that we are all the same is counter bloody productive, FOR EVERYONE.
Because it is delusional.
Moral equivalency has become a plague of insanity imposed on everyone exposed to the western education in the last 40 years, by extreme leftist ideologues. All is not equal, everything is not as good as anything else, and legislating we agree or be declared thought criminals is perching humaity atop a very, very, slippery slope.

So encourage fine achievements by great hard working aboriginals, but do not condone lazy, foul mouthed drunks, or bludging moochers, because only the example of the good and hard working will provide the role models young people need to have a better life than their parents.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Are you kidding??? Racism and xenophobia has been part of our subconscious for thousands of generations. Before time immemorial. If we did not have survival instincts, we would not survive. Another tribe would have come along and rid the world of us. That is why we formulate stereotypes about an intruder or foreigner, as a way to help motivate ourselves to keep safe.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #167 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:38am

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 12:03pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

I demand my white privilige. How about a little reward for effort?
Is that truly such a terrible thing?

I know I am the only person on this whole forum that has admitted that he is racist, (to my knowledge, but look forward to being corrected if there are any other honest people here) and I consider racism a natural state of mind for humanity, on a cultural level.
I am not keen on hate or bigotry, but I understand stereotypes do not materialise out of thin air, they develop through observation and judgement.
Honestly, we are all continuously judging everything, and evry one in our realm of experience. It is how we learn how to frame our world, and to create fantasy constructs that we are all the same is counter bloody productive, FOR EVERYONE.
Because it is delusional.
Moral equivalency has become a plague of insanity imposed on everyone exposed to the western education in the last 40 years, by extreme leftist ideologues. All is not equal, everything is not as good as anything else, and legislating we agree or be declared thought criminals is perching humaity atop a very, very, slippery slope.

So encourage fine achievements by great hard working aboriginals, but do not condone lazy, foul mouthed drunks, or bludging moochers, because only the example of the good and hard working will provide the role models young people need to have a better life than their parents.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Are you kidding??? Racism and xenophobia has been part of our subconscious for thousands of generations. Before time immemorial. If we did not have survival instincts, we would not survive. Another tribe would have come along and rid the world of us. That is why we formulate stereotypes about an intruder or foreigner, as a way to help motivate ourselves to keep safe.

And I would agree. The thing is there is no rational reason for it now. Sure, still discriminate but against ideas, not people. People are all pretty much the same, it's their ideas, their intentions, not their looks that matter and as we have seen, they can look like us.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #168 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:11am

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 5:02pm:

Mr. Hammer is resentful because he feels Britsh but can't raise the capital to go back to UK and establish himself.

Mr. Hammer is in no man's land blithering and bleating about his social and economic condition.

He's stuck in some colonial outpost, forced to live with the natives.

It would turn most men to drink, surely.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #169 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:14am

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 12:03pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

I demand my white privilige. How about a little reward for effort?
Is that truly such a terrible thing?

I know I am the only person on this whole forum that has admitted that he is racist, (to my knowledge, but look forward to being corrected if there are any other honest people here) and I consider racism a natural state of mind for humanity, on a cultural level.
I am not keen on hate or bigotry, but I understand stereotypes do not materialise out of thin air, they develop through observation and judgement.
Honestly, we are all continuously judging everything, and evry one in our realm of experience. It is how we learn how to frame our world, and to create fantasy constructs that we are all the same is counter bloody productive, FOR EVERYONE.
Because it is delusional.
Moral equivalency has become a plague of insanity imposed on everyone exposed to the western education in the last 40 years, by extreme leftist ideologues. All is not equal, everything is not as good as anything else, and legislating we agree or be declared thought criminals is perching humaity atop a very, very, slippery slope.

So encourage fine achievements by great hard working aboriginals, but do not condone lazy, foul mouthed drunks, or bludging moochers, because only the example of the good and hard working will provide the role models young people need to have a better life than their parents.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Are you kidding??? Racism and xenophobia has been part of our subconscious for thousands of generations. Before time immemorial. If we did not have survival instincts, we would not survive. Another tribe would have come along and rid the world of us. That is why we formulate stereotypes about an intruder or foreigner, as a way to help motivate ourselves to keep safe.

No.

Racism is not a natural state of mind for humanity.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #170 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 9:02am

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:14am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 12:03pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

I demand my white privilige. How about a little reward for effort?
Is that truly such a terrible thing?

I know I am the only person on this whole forum that has admitted that he is racist, (to my knowledge, but look forward to being corrected if there are any other honest people here) and I consider racism a natural state of mind for humanity, on a cultural level.
I am not keen on hate or bigotry, but I understand stereotypes do not materialise out of thin air, they develop through observation and judgement.
Honestly, we are all continuously judging everything, and evry one in our realm of experience. It is how we learn how to frame our world, and to create fantasy constructs that we are all the same is counter bloody productive, FOR EVERYONE.
Because it is delusional.
Moral equivalency has become a plague of insanity imposed on everyone exposed to the western education in the last 40 years, by extreme leftist ideologues. All is not equal, everything is not as good as anything else, and legislating we agree or be declared thought criminals is perching humaity atop a very, very, slippery slope.

So encourage fine achievements by great hard working aboriginals, but do not condone lazy, foul mouthed drunks, or bludging moochers, because only the example of the good and hard working will provide the role models young people need to have a better life than their parents.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Are you kidding??? Racism and xenophobia has been part of our subconscious for thousands of generations. Before time immemorial. If we did not have survival instincts, we would not survive. Another tribe would have come along and rid the world of us. That is why we formulate stereotypes about an intruder or foreigner, as a way to help motivate ourselves to keep safe.

No.

Racism is not a natural state of mind for humanity.

Yes it is. You want to talk "natural for humans"?

Racism is a name given by the destroyers of this planet to create unrest and make people feel bad about protecting their own tribe, and a way of protecting different weaker tribes.

Were the vikings racist in attacking other nations on their raids? In 2018 eyes they were. But all they were doing was what they'd been doing from the start.

It's human instinct to protect their own tribe.
We are just an animal on this earth. All animals behave the same. We are not all equal. If we were we would all be the same.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #171 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 9:17am

Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 9:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:14am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 12:03pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

I demand my white privilige. How about a little reward for effort?
Is that truly such a terrible thing?

I know I am the only person on this whole forum that has admitted that he is racist, (to my knowledge, but look forward to being corrected if there are any other honest people here) and I consider racism a natural state of mind for humanity, on a cultural level.
I am not keen on hate or bigotry, but I understand stereotypes do not materialise out of thin air, they develop through observation and judgement.
Honestly, we are all continuously judging everything, and evry one in our realm of experience. It is how we learn how to frame our world, and to create fantasy constructs that we are all the same is counter bloody productive, FOR EVERYONE.
Because it is delusional.
Moral equivalency has become a plague of insanity imposed on everyone exposed to the western education in the last 40 years, by extreme leftist ideologues. All is not equal, everything is not as good as anything else, and legislating we agree or be declared thought criminals is perching humaity atop a very, very, slippery slope.

So encourage fine achievements by great hard working aboriginals, but do not condone lazy, foul mouthed drunks, or bludging moochers, because only the example of the good and hard working will provide the role models young people need to have a better life than their parents.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Are you kidding??? Racism and xenophobia has been part of our subconscious for thousands of generations. Before time immemorial. If we did not have survival instincts, we would not survive. Another tribe would have come along and rid the world of us. That is why we formulate stereotypes about an intruder or foreigner, as a way to help motivate ourselves to keep safe.

No.

Racism is not a natural state of mind for humanity.

Yes it is. You want to talk "natural for humans"?

Racism is a name given by the destroyers of this planet to create unrest and make people feel bad about protecting their own tribe, and a way of protecting different weaker tribes.

Were the vikings racist in attacking other nations on their raids? In 2018 eyes they were. But all they were doing was what they'd been doing from the start.

It's human instinct to protect their own tribe.
We are just an animal on this earth. All animals behave the same. We are not all equal. If we were we would all be the same.

Nope.

Amygdala sensitivity to race isn't present in childhood.

It emerges in adolescence.

Do some research.

Start with Telzer, Humphreys, et al.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #172 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 6:05pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 2:51pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 2:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 2:36pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 1:46pm:

Group of indigenous children. Grin

I agree...cut the crap. They're Australian kids...just like all other Australian kids.

Yes, that'd be nice. What a shame the Racists think they aren't... Roll Eyes

Ahh, the old race card again.

THOSE WHO SCREAM RACIST...ARE RACIST!

Aboriginals are Australian...aren't they? They're the ones want a different identity to the rest.

Most just want some respect as the original Australians. What a shame the racists refuse to accord it to them. Tsk, tsk. You're a prime example. I've served with Indigenous soldiers. Great blokes. All they wanted was respect for their "race".

Why? ... all they should have wanted should have been respect for the person they were/are & the job they did/are doing.

Anything else based on "race" makes the claim racist.

Point out one person in that group photo that looks anything like "an original" Australian.

No recognition for whatever makes up a big majority of their racial mix.

That those kids couldn't have gone down on a trip to the Police Station with every other child who isn't labelled Indigenous is ridiculous & divisive.

Your definition of what an "original" Aborigine looks like is like what the PHONies claim an "original Australian" looks like. Pointless. Indigenousness is about their ancestry and acceptance by other Indigenous Australians as indigenous. Time you woke up to just how racist your claims are. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

And who decided/came up with that?

People with an axe to grind & an excuse to make. Roll Eyes

Most urban/city/town Aboriginals don't lead traditional indigenous life styles.

I have mixed ancestry ... I don't claim to be one or the others ... I'm Australian.

Blinkered individuals like yourself just perpetuate the bs industry & are expanding the divide.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #173 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:48pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:11am:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 5:02pm:

Mr. Hammer is resentful because he feels Britsh but can't raise the capital to go back to UK and establish himself.

Mr. Hammer is in no man's land blithering and bleating about his social and economic condition.

He's stuck in some colonial outpost, forced to live with the natives.

It would turn most men to drink, surely.

Mr. Hammer is a contrarian and his sad plight has driven him to sobriety and he is real pissed about that because it further distances Mr. Hammer from his pommie roots.

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #174 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:53pm

Frank wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

Nope. Why? 'cause I've had my share of hard knocks, Soren. Unlike you with your University of Balogny degree, hey? Roll Eyes

Poor boy Bwian, had his share of hard knocks to the head. Can't help it that he sent $50 for an online Doktorate. Aphasia, don't you know. Oh, yes.

BTW, I never said I had a degree from Bologna. All three of my degrees are from an Australian university. I did, however, study at the University of Bologna as well and it counted towards my Australian degrees.

I have no mail-order qualifications or certificates or vanity testimonials. That's for vain, preening idiots like you, Bwian.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Excuses, hey, Soren? Tsk, tsk. Keep them coming. We might believe your bullshit - one day. Roll Eyes

Excuses for your aphasia?? Not at all.

You are a vain, preening idiot, claiming'hard knocks' as an excuse for your vain idiocy.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. Off back to the little kiddies' playground for you, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #175 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:01pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:38am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 12:03pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 1^st, 2018 at 11:56am:

I demand my white privilige. How about a little reward for effort?
Is that truly such a terrible thing?

I know I am the only person on this whole forum that has admitted that he is racist, (to my knowledge, but look forward to being corrected if there are any other honest people here) and I consider racism a natural state of mind for humanity, on a cultural level.
I am not keen on hate or bigotry, but I understand stereotypes do not materialise out of thin air, they develop through observation and judgement.
Honestly, we are all continuously judging everything, and evry one in our realm of experience. It is how we learn how to frame our world, and to create fantasy constructs that we are all the same is counter bloody productive, FOR EVERYONE.
Because it is delusional.
Moral equivalency has become a plague of insanity imposed on everyone exposed to the western education in the last 40 years, by extreme leftist ideologues. All is not equal, everything is not as good as anything else, and legislating we agree or be declared thought criminals is perching humaity atop a very, very, slippery slope.

So encourage fine achievements by great hard working aboriginals, but do not condone lazy, foul mouthed drunks, or bludging moochers, because only the example of the good and hard working will provide the role models young people need to have a better life than their parents.

Well, you'd be wrong.

Are you kidding??? Racism and xenophobia has been part of our subconscious for thousands of generations. Before time immemorial. If we did not have survival instincts, we would not survive. Another tribe would have come along and rid the world of us. That is why we formulate stereotypes about an intruder or foreigner, as a way to help motivate ourselves to keep safe.

And I would agree. The thing is there is no rational reason for it now. Sure, still discriminate but against ideas, not people. People are all pretty much the same, it's their ideas, their intentions, not their looks that matter and as we have seen, they can look like us.

Genetically we are all the same. We all share the same Genetic pool. It is what allows the various "races" to interbreed. This destroys the claims of Racists that superficial evolutionary adaptations represent some more about the underlying nature of each individual human's abilities or intelligence. There is only one Race - the Human one. We are all Homo Sapien Sapiens - "wise humans" (supposedly). People who believe the colour of an individual's skin, the shape of their eyes or the thickness of their lips, etc. are anything other than superficial physical evolutionary adaptations are bullshitting themselves and everybody else. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Spot the Aboriginal..
Reply #176 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:06pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 1:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2018 at 6:05pm:

Your definition of what an "original" Aborigine looks like is like what the PHONies claim an "original Australian" looks like. Pointless. Indigenousness is about their ancestry and acceptance by other Indigenous Australians as indigenous. Time you woke up to just how racist your claims are. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

And who decided/came up with that?

Indigenous people. Got a problem with that? People thinking about problems and producing solutions?

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People with an axe to grind & an excuse to make. Roll Eyes

Most urban/city/town Aboriginals don't lead traditional indigenous life styles.

I have mixed ancestry ... I don't claim to be one or the others ... I'm Australian.

Blinkered individuals like yourself just perpetuate the bs industry & are expanding the divide.

That is your choice. I doubt you would be accepted as Indigenous by Indigenous people anyway, with your attitudes towards Indigenous people.

Others however are. As I said, it is all about ancestry and acceptance. Doesn't matter if you're blonde haired, blue-eyed, as long as you are accepted as being Indigenous by Indigenous people.

If you don't like that, well, all I can say is "hard cheese". You are stepping into racism to go purely on the colour of a person's skin/hair/eyes/etc. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #178 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Doesn't matter if you're blonde haired, blue-eyed, as long as you are accepted as being Indigenous by Indigenous people.

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So if aborigines accepted Hitler he could have became one?

“An Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander is a person

- of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent

- who identifies as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander and

- is accepted as such by the community in which he (she) lives.”

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Reply #179 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Doesn't matter if you're blonde haired, blue-eyed, as long as you are accepted as being Indigenous by Indigenous people.

Grin

So if aborigines accepted Hitler he could have became one?

“An Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander is a person

- of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent

- who identifies as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander and

- is accepted as such by the community in which he (she) lives.”

It's all about DNA Pecca. If you are less than half abo then you are more white. It's just a scientific fact.

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