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Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Feb 25^th, 2018 at 9:46pm

I was driving through the western suburbs of Sydney this week and it just made me realise how much we need to cut immigration, particularly that from Muslim countries. Lakemba is like mini Baghdad. It's funny how all of those on the sanctimonious left (and by that I include a substantial amount of Liberal Party MPs) say that we need to be so nice and let them all come in, but why don't those that say that want to live anywhere near them? They live in their nice trendy houses in Newtown, Balmain, Birchgrove and Marrickville and expect battling working class mum, dad and the kids in places like Liverpool, Bankstown, Campsie and Lakemba to live surrounded by Muslims who don't work, can't speak a word of English, have up to 10 kids and go on welfare. Put the Muslims near them and I bet that they would change their tone.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 99679	Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration Reply #1 - Feb 25^th, 2018 at 10:24pm Thank God you're back, Matty. Thank heavens the grown-ups are back in charge.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration Reply #2 - Feb 25^th, 2018 at 10:26pm It's about time we had a thread about mussies , those boongs have been copping a flogging of late
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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration Reply #3 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 6:28am too late, abbott already here.
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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #4 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 8:49am

matty wrote on Feb 25^th, 2018 at 9:46pm:

I was driving through the western suburbs of Sydney this week and it just made me realise how much we need to cut immigration, particularly that from Muslim countries. Lakemba is like mini Baghdad. It's funny how all of those on the sanctimonious left (and by that I include a substantial amount of Liberal Party MPs) say that we need to be so nice and let them all come in, but why don't those that say that want to live anywhere near them? They live in their nice trendy houses in Newtown, Balmain, Birchgrove and Marrickville and expect battling working class mum, dad and the kids in places like Liverpool, Bankstown, Campsie and Lakemba to live surrounded by Muslims who don't work, can't speak a word of English, have up to 10 kids and go on welfare. Put the Muslims near them and I bet that they would change their tone.

So based on your BS anecdote, what do you want us to do?

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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #5 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 9:41am

matty wrote on Feb 25^th, 2018 at 9:46pm:

I was driving through the western suburbs of Sydney this week and it just made me realise how much we need to cut immigration, particularly that from Muslim countries. Lakemba is like mini Baghdad. It's funny how all of those on the sanctimonious left (and by that I include a substantial amount of Liberal Party MPs) say that we need to be so nice and let them all come in, but why don't those that say that want to live anywhere near them? They live in their nice trendy houses in Newtown, Balmain, Birchgrove and Marrickville and expect battling working class mum, dad and the kids in places like Liverpool, Bankstown, Campsie and Lakemba to live surrounded by Muslims who don't work, can't speak a word of English, have up to 10 kids and go on welfare. Put the Muslims near them and I bet that they would change their tone.

Neither side of politics wants to talk about it because they need mass immigration to keep their fake debt ladened services economy going. This is what happens when you de-industrialize a country and throw away its manufacturing capacity !!

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Reply #6 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:02am

Not only should we have a drastic reduction in immigration numbers but we should send out a message to the various groups here in Oz who sought our protection. Hey Iraqis, Mr S Hussein has been removed so it is now safe to return home. Hey Sri Lankans/Tamils, the war is over so you no longer have a reason to stay in Oz. We'll try and get along without you difficult as that task may be. Hey Vietnamese, your home country is now a popular tourist destination so it seems to be a safe country so off you go.

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crocodile Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6683 Gender:	Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration Reply #7 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:09am Amazing how people advocate for dropping immigration but can't articulate a solution to the fact that the population is aging.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration Reply #8 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:26am Immigration is about the only reason the libtards are managing their .1 of a percent growth per quarter
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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #9 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:45am

crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:09am:

Amazing how people advocate for dropping immigration but can't articulate a solution to the fact that the population is aging.

You still haven't learned why you're wrong about this. Immigration is NOT at a level that maintains a stable population but is substantially greater than this. This population Ponzi scheme is not sustainable in the long term.

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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #10 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:45am

matty wrote on Feb 25^th, 2018 at 9:46pm:

I was driving through the western suburbs of Sydney this week and it just made me realise how much we need to cut immigration, particularly that from Muslim countries. Lakemba is like mini Baghdad. It's funny how all of those on the sanctimonious left (and by that I include a substantial amount of Liberal Party MPs) say that we need to be so nice and let them all come in, but why don't those that say that want to live anywhere near them? They live in their nice trendy houses in Newtown, Balmain, Birchgrove and Marrickville and expect battling working class mum, dad and the kids in places like Liverpool, Bankstown, Campsie and Lakemba to live surrounded by Muslims who don't work, can't speak a word of English, have up to 10 kids and go on welfare. Put the Muslims near them and I bet that they would change their tone.

Newtown, Balmain, Birchgrove, Marrickville - they are all suburbs with 2 mil median house price. More likely to vote for liberals than labor.

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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #11 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:54am

Bam wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:45am:

crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:09am:

Amazing how people advocate for dropping immigration but can't articulate a solution to the fact that the population is aging.

You still haven't learned why you're wrong about this. Immigration is NOT at a level that maintains a stable population but is substantially greater than this. This population Ponzi scheme is not sustainable in the long term.

You haven't thought that one through very well. A stable population is not much use when the ratio of workers to non workers keeps diminishing.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30772 Gender:	Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration Reply #12 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 11:07am crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:09am: Amazing how people advocate for dropping immigration but can't articulate a solution to the fact that the population is aging. china is no longer taking our waste. Can we dump it on your back yard ?
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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #13 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 11:08am

crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:54am:

Bam wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:45am:

crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:09am:

Amazing how people advocate for dropping immigration but can't articulate a solution to the fact that the population is aging.

You still haven't learned why you're wrong about this. Immigration is NOT at a level that maintains a stable population but is substantially greater than this. This population Ponzi scheme is not sustainable in the long term.

You haven't thought that one through very well. A stable population is not much use when the ratio of workers to non workers keeps diminishing.

and you keep sending all of the jobs to china.

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Re: Abbott is right, we need to reduce immigration
Reply #14 - Feb 26^th, 2018 at 11:11am

crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:54am:

Bam wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:45am:

crocodile wrote on Feb 26^th, 2018 at 10:09am:

Amazing how people advocate for dropping immigration but can't articulate a solution to the fact that the population is aging.

You still haven't learned why you're wrong about this. Immigration is NOT at a level that maintains a stable population but is substantially greater than this. This population Ponzi scheme is not sustainable in the long term.

You haven't thought that one through very well. A stable population is not much use when the ratio of workers to non workers keeps diminishing.

That's a specious argument that ignores the reasons why this is happening. Immigration is adding cost pressures to infrastructure and housing that would not be as great if the population was stable. Another problem is a lack of jobs in regional areas. Reduce these cost pressures and create these jobs in regional areas, and people could live more cheaply and afford to have more children.

You're also ignoring what happens when working-age immigrants reach retirement age. Do we solve that with even more immigration? Do we send them "home"?

Another factor that reduces taxation revenue and the birthrate is the 20% of the working age population who are forced by government policy to have no work at all or insufficient work. Eradicating involuntary unemployment could do a lot to boost the spending power of this bottom quintile of the working-age population. Taxation revenues would increase, and they could afford to have more children - future taxpayers.

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