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Re: Fear of stolen generation caused childs rape
Reply #30 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:56pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Is that a core government line or a non-core government line or just a position publicly stated for political purposes?

WHAT have these governments actually done to improve the lot of Kangaroo Kaffirs respective - apart from jailing them more.... I think you'll find there somewhere is the truth of this tale.....
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Reply #31 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:20pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



oh dear oh dearie dearie me... tsk tsk brian   shame on you...is this what good CHristians boys say these days is it??>...


sadl y a lot of what went on all those years ago   was wrong...sadly no one will really know the whole truth.

an awful lot did suffer   but was it done to punish or abuse aboriginals   I dont know   I sure there were many bad people involved  but I am also sure many good people did their best ....and did it for the right reasons....

its history they were such different times   we never experienced those times   what would we know???>..

so many different stories all passed down....

and yes it has had an affect on the way things are done today......by the sound of this a disastrous affect... its the children that pay the price and they grow up with many many problems and follow in the footsteps of those in charge.....

this is a terrible case  and shows how it isnt working...

whopping big NO ALCOHOL SIGNS mean nothing at all...

a waste of money and a sign writers time...

I dont have the answers   one would expect the elders of these reserves would have them....   

how they get the grog  into places like Tennant Creek...


shouldnt be that hard to discover and put a stop to them

for crying outloud its 2018....a 2yr old is raped by a man   

this is as bad as Americas... school murders......

all we do it talk   we know its getting worse   but nothing changes...

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Reply #32 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:15pm
 
You hear the endless cry of 'don't blame the Aboriginals' - do we ever hear the cry of 'don't blame the blameless whites'?

Who the hell are we to blame?  Like feminists, gays, Muslims, etc, at what point do Aboriginals start taking responsibility for themselves and their own actions and stop wanting to stomp on someone else out of some misdirected spite and resentment?

I have a basic rule in life - if I don't harm you - you don't harm me.

Is that so hard to follow?
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Reply #33 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 2:12am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:20am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 6:58pm:
So, Gordon, if in your opinion the Stolen Generations should be more correct called the Saved Generations, are you prepared to hand your children over, to allow them to be saved from your endless rants of racism, culturalism, Xenophobia and Islamophobia?   Of course not.   I wonder why?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Here's a challenge to all the racists.  If you truly believe the Indigenous are getting an unfair deal that favours them, are you prepared to spend your life as an indigenous person?   We'll make your skin darker and maroon you in the middle of no where.   Lets see you walk a few miles in their shoes.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No thanks - I don't want the problems WITHIN those communities - the fighting, the drugs, the alcohol abuse, the violence against families, warring with Whitey, the theft and house break-ins, the vandalism..... you name it...

I wouldn't want to share my life with such a group any more than I'd want to share it  surrounded by 'houso' yobs and arseholes..... nobody in that category is worth my time or energy...

He about you go blackface and write us a book like that American journo did.....  Huh


Why should I?  I believe that the Stolen Generations were well, stolen, Graps, not saved.   They were taken from their families without their family's permission for the most part and were taken, generation after generation to suffer abuse at the hands of abusive white colonial settlers and administrators.   I am not proud of that history at all.   I am deeply ashamed of it.   So should you.   It was your society, just as much as it was my society.   You are older than most here.  You more than likely allowed it to happen, Graps.  Your voice was silent.  You thought it was "all for the best".   It wasn't.  It has created a dysfunctional society.   Well done.  Proud of your silence?   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
What a load of codswallop. Historical record supports the fact that the so called stolen generation were mixed blood children removed from the natives because the belief was the full bloods would not accept them. The intent was nothing else than benevolent. In fact in W.A. and QLD. it was actually illegal to remove full blood children from their families. The stolen generation  is a myth.
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Reply #34 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 8:18am
 
HE WHO SCREAMS RACIST, IS THE RACIST.

Cut the race accusations ffs and look at the actual problem.
If the gov had taken a bunch of white kids off parents you dogooder lot would be saying what a wonderful thing for those kids to be finally removed from the horible houshold they live in. But because it's aboriginal housholds the race card comes out...YET AGAIN!!!

As for walking in their shoes.....I grew up around abos. Theyre okay when sober, after that it is all downhill but the fighting is generally "in house". They don't just go and attack randoms (in most cases I have whitnessed). They just fight their family members..untill the next day and the process starts again.
One thing I also learnt from another young abo is if you end up fighting one don't bother punching them in the head. It does nothing but hurt your hand and you will most likley come off worse. Stomachs and knees will take one down every time.

Now the rmote ones, they choose to live out there in remote locations because...they do. They are free to move to civilisation....but they don't. So that is a cop out statement to say the least, but I have walked along side them in civilisation. Stoners are the good ones....drunks are just arseholes. 

They get better oportunity....who knows. Who cares? If they are hardworking then they will get a job, same as anyone. I have worked with heaps of them in my time....good paying jobs too.

Child services lets down all children...not just abos.
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Reply #35 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 2:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Sad troll you are
No stolen generation have been proven.
The liars that were touted as stolen generation were found to be frauds.

Just like the secret women's business that was also proven to be nothing more than a scam.

Stop lying and defending child murderers.
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Re: Fear of stolen generation caused childs rape
Reply #36 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 3:08pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Sad troll you are
No stolen generation have been proven.
The liars that were touted as stolen generation were found to be frauds.

Just like the secret women's business that was also proven to be nothing more than a scam.

Stop lying and defending child murderers.


Matty has no problem with the child murderers, he just wants to kill the Muslims.

Not racist, Islam is not a race.
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Re: Fear of stolen generation caused childs rape
Reply #37 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 3:30pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 8:18am:
HE WHO SCREAMS RACIST, IS THE RACIST.

Cut the race accusations ffs and look at the actual problem.
If the gov had taken a bunch of white kids off parents you dogooder lot would be saying what a wonderful thing for those kids to be finally removed from the horible houshold they live in. But because it's aboriginal housholds the race card comes out...YET AGAIN!!!

As for walking in their shoes.....I grew up around abos. Theyre okay when sober, after that it is all downhill but the fighting is generally "in house". They don't just go and attack randoms (in most cases I have whitnessed). They just fight their family members..untill the next day and the process starts again.
One thing I also learnt from another young abo is if you end up fighting one don't bother punching them in the head. It does nothing but hurt your hand and you will most likley come off worse. Stomachs and knees will take one down every time.

Now the rmote ones, they choose to live out there in remote locations because...they do. They are free to move to civilisation....but they don't. So that is a cop out statement to say the least, but I have walked along side them in civilisation. Stoners are the good ones....drunks are just arseholes. 

They get better oportunity....who knows. Who cares? If they are hardworking then they will get a job, same as anyone. I have worked with heaps of them in my time....good paying jobs too.

Child services lets down all children...not just abos.




oh so bloody true.....you dont hear so much about that do you...certainly never heard bwain complain about what happens to white children

its not a POOR ME..LOOK AT ME..THINK ABOUT ME..

WHAT YOU DOING FOR ME.....charity
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Reply #38 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 4:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 6:58pm:
So, Gordon, if in your opinion the Stolen Generations should be more correct called the Saved Generations, are you prepared to hand your children over, to allow them to be saved from your endless rants of racism, culturalism, Xenophobia and Islamophobia?   Of course not.   I wonder why?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Here's a challenge to all the racists.  If you truly believe the Indigenous are getting an unfair deal that favours them, are you prepared to spend your life as an indigenous person?   We'll make your skin darker and maroon you in the middle of no where.   Lets see you walk a few miles in their shoes.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well... elephant in the room here. If you were marooned in the middle of nowhere, of course you would not be as well off as other people. In fact, if you continued a 40,000+ year tradition of stone age cultures, of course you would not be as well off as other people.
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Reply #39 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:45pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:56pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Is that a core government line or a non-core government line or just a position publicly stated for political purposes?


It was stated at the Human Rights Commission inquiry - "Bringing them home", Graps.

It was restated by the Federal Government via the apology.

It was restated by the state governments of South Australia and Victoria when court cases were brought against them by members of the Stolen Generations.

It is a done deal.  Time for the racists to deal with it.   The Government(s) of Australia admit that they stole Indigenous children.   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #40 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:50pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



oh dear oh dearie dearie me... tsk tsk brian   shame on you...is this what good CHristians boys say these days is it??>...


No idea and I don't care.  I am neither "good" nor am I "Christian", Cods.   You are not my mother, so bugger off.   Roll Eyes

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sadl y a lot of what went on all those years ago   was wrong...sadly no one will really know the whole truth.


Sufficient was known by the so-called "Protector of Aborigines".  It is obvious from O.E. Neville's statements he knew what was going on.   State and Federal Government ministers knew what was going on.   Police offices and welfare officers knew what was going on.   This sort of thing cannot occur in ignorance, no matter how much you wish otherwise.  All you are doing is making excuses.  You are an apologist for Genocide, Cods.  Proud are you?   You stand up there with the Nazis and the Communists.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #41 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:50pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 9:34pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 5:40pm:
The stolen generation is a myth.
It's all BULL shite.


Not according to the Federal Government.  Not according to the various State Governments.   You are the one who is bullshitting, Valkie.  You're just a racist.  Soon you'll be dead and Australian society will be a better place.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Sad troll you are
No stolen generation have been proven.
The liars that were touted as stolen generation were found to be frauds.

Just like the secret women's business that was also proven to be nothing more than a scam.

Stop lying and defending child murderers.


Matty has no problem with the child murderers, he just wants to kill the Muslims.

Not racist, Islam is not a race.


Moron

I don't want to kill muzzos.

I simply want them gone, and never to pollute the human race with their sociopathic,  primitive, sick, barbaric practices.

Just send them to a muzzo run country.

In time they will all just kill each other, rape all the children and die out.

Good riddance.

As for anyone who harms children.
There is only one solution.
Remove them from the human race, with extreme extreme prejudice.

I don't care what colour they are.


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Reply #42 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:52pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:15pm:
You hear the endless cry of 'don't blame the Aboriginals' - do we ever hear the cry of 'don't blame the blameless whites'?

Who the hell are we to blame?  Like feminists, gays, Muslims, etc, at what point do Aboriginals start taking responsibility for themselves and their own actions and stop wanting to stomp on someone else out of some misdirected spite and resentment?

I have a basic rule in life - if I don't harm you - you don't harm me.

Is that so hard to follow?


What a shame more whites didn't follow that rule, Graps.  Hey?   They definitely harmed Indigenous people.  They took their children away from their families.  Tsk, tsk.   They subjected them to abuse and neglect.  Tsk, tsk.   They abused them.  Tsk, tsk.   So much for their policies of "paternalism", hey?   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #43 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:52pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:15pm:
You hear the endless cry of 'don't blame the Aboriginals' - do we ever hear the cry of 'don't blame the blameless whites'?

Who the hell are we to blame?  Like feminists, gays, Muslims, etc, at what point do Aboriginals start taking responsibility for themselves and their own actions and stop wanting to stomp on someone else out of some misdirected spite and resentment?

I have a basic rule in life - if I don't harm you - you don't harm me.

Is that so hard to follow?


What a shame more whites didn't follow that rule, Graps.  Hey?   They definitely harmed Indigenous people.  They took their children away from their families.  Tsk, tsk.   They subjected them to abuse and neglect.  Tsk, tsk.   They abused them.  Tsk, tsk.   So much for their policies of "paternalism", hey?   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes


If you were having a discussion with someone in a pub, would you wave your finger in front of their  face and say Tsk Tsk like you do here?
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Reply #44 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm
 
rhino wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 2:12am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:20am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 6:58pm:
So, Gordon, if in your opinion the Stolen Generations should be more correct called the Saved Generations, are you prepared to hand your children over, to allow them to be saved from your endless rants of racism, culturalism, Xenophobia and Islamophobia?   Of course not.   I wonder why?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Here's a challenge to all the racists.  If you truly believe the Indigenous are getting an unfair deal that favours them, are you prepared to spend your life as an indigenous person?   We'll make your skin darker and maroon you in the middle of no where.   Lets see you walk a few miles in their shoes.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


No thanks - I don't want the problems WITHIN those communities - the fighting, the drugs, the alcohol abuse, the violence against families, warring with Whitey, the theft and house break-ins, the vandalism..... you name it...

I wouldn't want to share my life with such a group any more than I'd want to share it  surrounded by 'houso' yobs and arseholes..... nobody in that category is worth my time or energy...

He about you go blackface and write us a book like that American journo did.....  Huh


Why should I?  I believe that the Stolen Generations were well, stolen, Graps, not saved.   They were taken from their families without their family's permission for the most part and were taken, generation after generation to suffer abuse at the hands of abusive white colonial settlers and administrators.   I am not proud of that history at all.   I am deeply ashamed of it.   So should you.   It was your society, just as much as it was my society.   You are older than most here.  You more than likely allowed it to happen, Graps.  Your voice was silent.  You thought it was "all for the best".   It wasn't.  It has created a dysfunctional society.   Well done.  Proud of your silence?   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
What a load of codswallop. Historical record supports the fact that the so called stolen generation were mixed blood children removed from the natives because the belief was the full bloods would not accept them. The intent was nothing else than benevolent. In fact in W.A. and QLD. it was actually illegal to remove full blood children from their families. The stolen generation  is a myth.


If the "intent" was "benevolent" why did so many Indigenous end up being abused?  Raped?  Swindled?  Starved?   Where was the "benevolence" in those acts?  Tsk, tsk.   The Stolen Generations were taken from their families.   An attempt at Genocide - according to the UN definition of Genocide - was undertaken and no one has been punished for it.  How bloody convenient that we have apologists standing up now, spouting bullshit about what happened.   Ask the Indigenous victims.  They know what happened.   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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