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Reply #15 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:27am
 
crocodile wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:26am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:18am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:56am:
whiteknight wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:43am:
Yes of course not to worry its only 1000 jobs.  Although that's only the start of it.  Now who was it that said, jobs and growth?.   Sad   


Yes of course not worry about the NAB's future ?
Plenty of other banks won't be missed ?

And of course no company should ever lay off people no matter what ?



No doubt the CEO will get a pay rise for hatching up this ingenious plan of retrenching staff Cheesy LOL


Of course he will. He will get the same output for less labour input. An increase in labour productivity. The source of all wages growth. Fukkwit.


yes certainly more productive in retrenching people so deserves a bonus Cheesy LOL
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #16 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:32am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:18am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:56am:
whiteknight wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:43am:
Yes of course not to worry its only 1000 jobs.  Although that's only the start of it.  Now who was it that said, jobs and growth?.   Sad   


Yes of course not worry about the NAB's future ?
Plenty of other banks won't be missed ?

And of course no company should ever lay off people no matter what ?



No doubt the CEO will get a pay rise for hatching up this ingenious plan of retrenching staff Cheesy LOL


And what is your point ?
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #17 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:36am
 
RSF,

the normally ignored LostSnail says anything just to try to get noticed.
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #18 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:42am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:24am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:58am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:51am:
Ah, yes - just bow down and accept it - a nation of landless serfs and drop-kicks tied to mobile phones and other losers while the fattest cats get fatter and end up as feudal lords of all they survey while the peons beg for sustenance or rob on the highways.

History repeating itself.... over and over..... then another three hundred years of upward mobility in social conditions and economic conditions for all, then the same old luxury lapse into the same old, same old, with a populace gulled by bread and circuses while the floor and roof are removed around them ..... a society riddled with crime as a means of survival, the moral decay, oppression by the rich and powerful and all the rules set up by them to suit them.....

Where's aquascoot... he can explain to us the value of being a serf and sucking the boss' arsehole and making yourself the most valuable employee on the scrapheap..... longie can explain to us the total value of having the opportunity to sack as a tool in negotiation....... while the hungry sharpen their knives for use first on each other like a pack of craven dogs, but eventually in carving up the fat cats and devouring them so as to replace them with another set of fat cats masquerading as scions of the people....

It was the best of times ... it was the worst of times.. A Tale Of Two crappy Outcomes.... Labor or LNP and all shades in between.

How many of these 6000 jobs are going offshore, BTW...?????

Now - what's all this crud about a Whitey Proof Fence on Ayers Rock, and Barnaby Joyce biting a chunk off the hand that serves him while the APRA thing is passed by seven Senators....


http://i.imgur.com/Vg8Z9.gif


Graps, a lot of financial sector jobs are being replaced by algorithms and tech and as we move further towards a cashless economy tells are just not needed and same for back office support staff.

As for tellers, they're all but gorne.

My local ANZ branch was just renovated and the wall of 6 tellers has been replaced with 4 desks with only one staffed and a door greeter asking what transaction I required.


and yet they are robbing us blind with fees and bullshit charges when technology should be making it cheaper Sad



Yep - my Bank robs me about $700 per annum in fees.
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #19 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:26am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:42am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:24am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:58am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:51am:
Ah, yes - just bow down and accept it - a nation of landless serfs and drop-kicks tied to mobile phones and other losers while the fattest cats get fatter and end up as feudal lords of all they survey while the peons beg for sustenance or rob on the highways.

History repeating itself.... over and over..... then another three hundred years of upward mobility in social conditions and economic conditions for all, then the same old luxury lapse into the same old, same old, with a populace gulled by bread and circuses while the floor and roof are removed around them ..... a society riddled with crime as a means of survival, the moral decay, oppression by the rich and powerful and all the rules set up by them to suit them.....

Where's aquascoot... he can explain to us the value of being a serf and sucking the boss' arsehole and making yourself the most valuable employee on the scrapheap..... longie can explain to us the total value of having the opportunity to sack as a tool in negotiation....... while the hungry sharpen their knives for use first on each other like a pack of craven dogs, but eventually in carving up the fat cats and devouring them so as to replace them with another set of fat cats masquerading as scions of the people....

It was the best of times ... it was the worst of times.. A Tale Of Two crappy Outcomes.... Labor or LNP and all shades in between.

How many of these 6000 jobs are going offshore, BTW...?????

Now - what's all this crud about a Whitey Proof Fence on Ayers Rock, and Barnaby Joyce biting a chunk off the hand that serves him while the APRA thing is passed by seven Senators....


http://i.imgur.com/Vg8Z9.gif


Graps, a lot of financial sector jobs are being replaced by algorithms and tech and as we move further towards a cashless economy tells are just not needed and same for back office support staff.

As for tellers, they're all but gorne.

My local ANZ branch was just renovated and the wall of 6 tellers has been replaced with 4 desks with only one staffed and a door greeter asking what transaction I required.


and yet they are robbing us blind with fees and bullshit charges when technology should be making it cheaper Sad



Yep - my Bank robs me about $700 per annum in fees.


There are ways around fees.
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #20 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:32am
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:32am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:18am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:56am:
whiteknight wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:43am:
Yes of course not to worry its only 1000 jobs.  Although that's only the start of it.  Now who was it that said, jobs and growth?.   Sad   


Yes of course not worry about the NAB's future ?
Plenty of other banks won't be missed ?

And of course no company should ever lay off people no matter what ?



No doubt the CEO will get a pay rise for hatching up this ingenious plan of retrenching staff Cheesy LOL


And what is your point ?


what a genius to think up a plan to cut costs by retrenching people. Definitely worth another 1 mill in bonuses Cheesy LOL
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #21 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:32am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:26am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:42am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:24am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:58am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:51am:
Ah, yes - just bow down and accept it - a nation of landless serfs and drop-kicks tied to mobile phones and other losers while the fattest cats get fatter and end up as feudal lords of all they survey while the peons beg for sustenance or rob on the highways.

History repeating itself.... over and over..... then another three hundred years of upward mobility in social conditions and economic conditions for all, then the same old luxury lapse into the same old, same old, with a populace gulled by bread and circuses while the floor and roof are removed around them ..... a society riddled with crime as a means of survival, the moral decay, oppression by the rich and powerful and all the rules set up by them to suit them.....

Where's aquascoot... he can explain to us the value of being a serf and sucking the boss' arsehole and making yourself the most valuable employee on the scrapheap..... longie can explain to us the total value of having the opportunity to sack as a tool in negotiation....... while the hungry sharpen their knives for use first on each other like a pack of craven dogs, but eventually in carving up the fat cats and devouring them so as to replace them with another set of fat cats masquerading as scions of the people....

It was the best of times ... it was the worst of times.. A Tale Of Two crappy Outcomes.... Labor or LNP and all shades in between.

How many of these 6000 jobs are going offshore, BTW...?????

Now - what's all this crud about a Whitey Proof Fence on Ayers Rock, and Barnaby Joyce biting a chunk off the hand that serves him while the APRA thing is passed by seven Senators....


http://i.imgur.com/Vg8Z9.gif


Graps, a lot of financial sector jobs are being replaced by algorithms and tech and as we move further towards a cashless economy tells are just not needed and same for back office support staff.

As for tellers, they're all but gorne.

My local ANZ branch was just renovated and the wall of 6 tellers has been replaced with 4 desks with only one staffed and a door greeter asking what transaction I required.


and yet they are robbing us blind with fees and bullshit charges when technology should be making it cheaper Sad



Yep - my Bank robs me about $700 per annum in fees.


There are ways around fees.


yeh keep your money under the bed Wink
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #22 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:35am
 
juliar wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 9:58am:
It is all because of the corrupt unions forcing the operating costs up.

This is how the corrupt unions are making business in Australia uncompetitive and forcing them to ditch staff. The corrupt unions are the main enemy of employment.  (Now listen to the horse howling of the Leftiesl!!!)



Annual Leave

Paid Annual Leave was first won after a campaign by printing workers in 1936. The Arbitration Commission granted the workers paid leave, which was then gained by other workers through their unions in different industries. Annual leave loading of 17.5 per cent was first won by workers in the Metal Industry in 1973.

Awards

Awards are legally binding documents that set out the minimum entitlements for workers in every industry. The first industrial award, the Pastoral Workers Award was established by the Australian Workers Union in 1908, mainly covering shearers. The shearers had experienced a terrible deterioration of their wages and conditions during the 1897 Depression and decided to take action to protect working people. Since 1904, awards have underpinned the pay and terms and conditions of employment for millions of workers. Awards are unique to Australia and integral in ensuring workers get 'fair pay for a fair day's work'.

Penalty Rates

Penalty rates were established in 1947, when unions argued in the Arbitration Commission that people needed extra money for working outside normal hours.

Maternity leave

Australian unions’ intensive campaigning for paid parental leave ended in victory with the introduction of the Paid Parental leave scheme by the Gillard Labor government. Under the scheme, working parents of children born or adopted after 1 January 2011 are entitled to a maximum of 18 weeks’ pay on the National Minimum Wage.

Superannuation

Prior to 1986, only a select group of workers were entitled to Superannuation. It became a universal entitlement after the ACTU's National Wage Case. Employers had to pay 3% of workers' earnings into Superannuation. This later increased to 9% and on November 2, 2011 the ACTU and its unions’ “Stand Up for Super” campaign celebrated another win for working Australians, when the Labor Government moved to increase the compulsory Superannuation Guarantee to 12% over 6 years from 1 July 2013 to 1 July 2019.

Equal Pay for Women

Although there were attempts to introduce equal pay going back as far as 1949, the principle of equal pay for women was finally adopted by Australian Conciliation and Arbitration Commission in 1969.

Health and Safety and Workers' Compensation

Workers compensation laws first came into existence in West Australia in 1902. For many years unions agitated and campaigned for health and safety laws which compelled employers to provide a safe working environment. In Victoria, legislation was introduced in 1985 which saw the active role of workers in maintaining safety on the job. Building unions agitated for many years to ban the use of asbestos, finally succeeding in the 1980’s.

Sick leave

Before sick leave, you turned up to work if you were sick, or you went without pay. Sick leave provisions began to appear in awards in the 1920’s and unions have campaigned hard for better sick leave conditions over the years, across all industries.

Long service leave

Coal workers went on strike in 1949 over a 35 hour week and Long service leave. Long service leave was finally introduced in New South Wales in 1951. Unions in other states followed.

Redundancy pay

The Arbitration Commission introduced the first Termination, Change and Redundancy Clause into awards due to work by metalworkers and their union. This entitled workers to redundancy pay.

Allowances: shift allowance, uniform allowance

Unions in different industries have campaigned for allowances that pertain to their members. Many workers who are required to wear uniforms in their jobs, get an allowance for this rather than having to pay for uniforms themselves.

Shift allowances are money that's paid for working at night or in the afternoon. Different industries have different allowances that were won by workers and their unions over the years.

Meal Breaks, rest breaks

Before unions agitated for meal breaks and rest breaks to be introduced, workers were required to work the whole day without a break. In 1973, workers at Ford in Melbourne engaged in industrial action over many issues, one of their demands being a proper break from the production line.

Collective Bargaining

Enterprise Bargaining was introduced in 1996 which allowed workers and their unions to negotiate directly with their employer over pay and conditions. Evidence from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that collective bargaining delivers better wages than individual agreements for ordinary workers.

Unfair Dismissal Protection

Unfair Dismissal Protection came from the concept of a "fair go all round", after the Australian Workers Union took a case to the Conciliation and Arbitration Commission on behalf of a worker who had been unfairly sacked in 1971. Since then, unions have campaigned for laws that reflect that 'fair go' principle, which is about having a valid reason to sack someone and that the dismissal cannot be harsh, unjust or unreasonable.



You are welcome to go and live in North Korea.  Smiley
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Reply #24 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:42am
 
Its time wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:35am:
jobsun groth


How often do you use a human teller?

You'd try to bring back elevator operators so there can be an elevator operators union  Smiley
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Reply #25 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:42am
 
juliar wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 9:58am:
It is all because of the corrupt unions forcing the operating costs up.

This is how the corrupt unions are making business in Australia uncompetitive and forcing them to ditch staff. The corrupt unions are the main enemy of employment.  (Now listen to the horse howling of the Leftiesl!!!)



Annual Leave

Paid Annual Leave was first won after a campaign by printing workers in 1936. The Arbitration Commission granted the workers paid leave, which was then gained by other workers through their unions in different industries. Annual leave loading of 17.5 per cent was first won by workers in the Metal Industry in 1973.

Awards

Awards are legally binding documents that set out the minimum entitlements for workers in every industry. The first industrial award, the Pastoral Workers Award was established by the Australian Workers Union in 1908, mainly covering shearers. The shearers had experienced a terrible deterioration of their wages and conditions during the 1897 Depression and decided to take action to protect working people. Since 1904, awards have underpinned the pay and terms and conditions of employment for millions of workers. Awards are unique to Australia and integral in ensuring workers get 'fair pay for a fair day's work'.

Penalty Rates

Penalty rates were established in 1947, when unions argued in the Arbitration Commission that people needed extra money for working outside normal hours.

Maternity leave

Australian unions’ intensive campaigning for paid parental leave ended in victory with the introduction of the Paid Parental leave scheme by the Gillard Labor government. Under the scheme, working parents of children born or adopted after 1 January 2011 are entitled to a maximum of 18 weeks’ pay on the National Minimum Wage.

Superannuation

Prior to 1986, only a select group of workers were entitled to Superannuation. It became a universal entitlement after the ACTU's National Wage Case. Employers had to pay 3% of workers' earnings into Superannuation. This later increased to 9% and on November 2, 2011 the ACTU and its unions’ “Stand Up for Super” campaign celebrated another win for working Australians, when the Labor Government moved to increase the compulsory Superannuation Guarantee to 12% over 6 years from 1 July 2013 to 1 July 2019.

Equal Pay for Women

Although there were attempts to introduce equal pay going back as far as 1949, the principle of equal pay for women was finally adopted by Australian Conciliation and Arbitration Commission in 1969.

Health and Safety and Workers' Compensation

Workers compensation laws first came into existence in West Australia in 1902. For many years unions agitated and campaigned for health and safety laws which compelled employers to provide a safe working environment. In Victoria, legislation was introduced in 1985 which saw the active role of workers in maintaining safety on the job. Building unions agitated for many years to ban the use of asbestos, finally succeeding in the 1980’s.

Sick leave

Before sick leave, you turned up to work if you were sick, or you went without pay. Sick leave provisions began to appear in awards in the 1920’s and unions have campaigned hard for better sick leave conditions over the years, across all industries.

Long service leave

Coal workers went on strike in 1949 over a 35 hour week and Long service leave. Long service leave was finally introduced in New South Wales in 1951. Unions in other states followed.

Redundancy pay

The Arbitration Commission introduced the first Termination, Change and Redundancy Clause into awards due to work by metalworkers and their union. This entitled workers to redundancy pay.

Allowances: shift allowance, uniform allowance

Unions in different industries have campaigned for allowances that pertain to their members. Many workers who are required to wear uniforms in their jobs, get an allowance for this rather than having to pay for uniforms themselves.

Shift allowances are money that's paid for working at night or in the afternoon. Different industries have different allowances that were won by workers and their unions over the years.

Meal Breaks, rest breaks

Before unions agitated for meal breaks and rest breaks to be introduced, workers were required to work the whole day without a break. In 1973, workers at Ford in Melbourne engaged in industrial action over many issues, one of their demands being a proper break from the production line.

Collective Bargaining

Enterprise Bargaining was introduced in 1996 which allowed workers and their unions to negotiate directly with their employer over pay and conditions. Evidence from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that collective bargaining delivers better wages than individual agreements for ordinary workers.

Unfair Dismissal Protection

Unfair Dismissal Protection came from the concept of a "fair go all round", after the Australian Workers Union took a case to the Conciliation and Arbitration Commission on behalf of a worker who had been unfairly sacked in 1971. Since then, unions have campaigned for laws that reflect that 'fair go' principle, which is about having a valid reason to sack someone and that the dismissal cannot be harsh, unjust or unreasonable.

Incorrect.
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Re: NAB Preparing To Axe The First 1000 Jobs
Reply #26 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:48am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:32am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:32am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:18am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:56am:
whiteknight wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:43am:
Yes of course not to worry its only 1000 jobs.  Although that's only the start of it.  Now who was it that said, jobs and growth?.   Sad   


Yes of course not worry about the NAB's future ?
Plenty of other banks won't be missed ?

And of course no company should ever lay off people no matter what ?



No doubt the CEO will get a pay rise for hatching up this ingenious plan of retrenching staff Cheesy LOL


And what is your point ?


what a genius to think up a plan to cut costs by retrenching people. Definitely worth another 1 mill in bonuses Cheesy LOL


Nails, I'll let you in on a secret. Job losses due to technology and ultimately productivity gains have been going on since a caveman first put a wheel on a cart. The bulldozer put all those pick and shovel men out of work just like the tractor, the lawnmower and the truck in their relevant industries. How do you think wages have grown over time. Magic pudding by the sound of it.
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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.
 
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Reply #27 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:54am
 
Bam wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:42am:
Incorrect.


Juliar thinks that labour productivity hasn't grown at all since about 1899.
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Reply #28 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:54am
 
juliar wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:36am:
RSF,

the normally ignored LostSnail says anything just to try to get noticed.


Not sure what nail wants .... reward CEO's for losing money ?
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Reply #29 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 11:55am
 
crocodile wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:26am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 10:18am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:56am:
whiteknight wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 6:43am:
Yes of course not to worry its only 1000 jobs.  Although that's only the start of it.  Now who was it that said, jobs and growth?.   Sad   


Yes of course not worry about the NAB's future ?
Plenty of other banks won't be missed ?

And of course no company should ever lay off people no matter what ?



No doubt the CEO will get a pay rise for hatching up this ingenious plan of retrenching staff Cheesy LOL


Of course he will. He will get the same output for less labour input. An increase in labour productivity. The source of all wages growth. Fukkwit.


Only up to a certain point - after that you run out of people to sack, and thus increase the numbers who can't use your services due to lack of income...

Now if the fruits of technology were shared around more - via a tax regime or whatever with carefully defined and isolated funding..... not the perpetual slush fund titled 'consolidated revenue'....
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