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Re: Raqqa
Reply #30 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 1:57pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 1:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 12:58pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 11:23pm:

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Aussie wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 9:16pm:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/22/12/45868EF200000578-5005501-image-m-70...

Watching 4 Corners.

Just amazing stuff, and there are some here who ask why people want to get out of there.

Fight for your country, don't run away. Aren't you glad those cowardly french men and women built the resistance to help us in WW2 rather than running away? Did we we see mass exodus of the French?

Many were collaborationistes ... remember the Vichy troops fought against the Allies in North Africa until persuaded to change sides, and the Vichy French fought Australians for six weeks in Syria, causing many casualties.

Je suis Inspecteur Cliche` de le Bureau des Etandardes Deuxiemes.. ze BED ....... I know zees things.... eet ees part of our mission state-mont.....

Vichy France was the lower half, occupied France did not run away. Do you disagree with them fighting for their country?(Arabs I mean, like the occupied French did?)

Brits did not leave en mass to the US, they stayed and fought for their country. Have something against that one too Grap?

The Brits organised bomb shelters and safe refuge for women and children - some even came to Australia.

Syria is run by a tyrant and a foreign power who don't care about protecting the population. The civil war started with televised footage of kids tortured and killed by the Assad regime.

BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Is it possible that many Syrians hate Assad because he's Shia? Huh

Hard to say, Homo. Is it possible many Syrians hate Assad because they want democracy?

Don't many of those groups fighting in Syria see Shia as kuffar? The best thing for Syria would be for it to be divided up according to ethnicity and sect. A madhouse like that can't be unified. It's too divided by all sorts of silly reasons.

Most of the militias fighting in Syria are secular or nationalist movements. The Kurds have done a lot of the grunt-work on the ground, and they're opposed by the Turks, who've done some of the bombing.

There are communists, liberals and social democratic militias, some funded by Uncle and the CIA. There are Sunni militias - some funded by the Saudis. The majority of Syrians are Sunni, but that's not what this civil war is about.

The Syrian war started during the Arab Spring. It's about democracy, not religion.

It started as a democracy movement, then about 5 minutes later the beards saw their chance to pounce and it went all Akbar.

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Reply #31 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:00pm

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White mouse
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Wake

Right to the very end she always insisted on calling them 'Germans' and not 'Nazis' or some other distraction from the fact they were Germans. She saw it as the German character that had been unleashed under Hitler's regime, and remained stubbornly politically incorrect right to her last few interviews.

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Reply #32 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:07pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:00pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 10:01am:

White mouse
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Wake

Right to the very end she always insisted on calling them 'Germans' and not 'Nazis' or some other distraction from the fact they were Germans. She saw it as the German character that had been unleashed under Hitler's regime, and remained stubbornly politically incorrect right to her last few interviews.

An she died in poverty, benefitting from some charity of Price Charles. Her closest associate was 'Anne of Green Gables' my blue rinse brigade rabid Liberal neighbour who used to visit her in that Home and Hospital she died in.

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Reply #34 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:53pm

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The Syrian war started during the Arab Spring. It's about democracy, not religion.

What utter rubbish. There never was an "Arab Spring." The term appeared as usual in journalism, where editors try to get a jump on a story. Only there was no story, just the usual religious and tribal violence. However, "Arab Spring" gives open boarder westerner progressives a rallying call, to pretend the belligerents believe in plurality and democracy. What they believe in is the Koran. When was the last time you saw Arabs and Persian disowning the Koran?

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Reply #35 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:43pm

issuevoter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:53pm:

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The Syrian war started during the Arab Spring. It's about democracy, not religion.

What utter rubbish. There never was an "Arab Spring." The term appeared as usual in journalism, where editors try to get a jump on a story. Only there was no story, just the usual religious and tribal violence. However, "Arab Spring" gives open boarder westerner progressives a rallying call, to pretend the belligerents believe in plurality and democracy. What they believe in is the Koran. When was the last time you saw Arabs and Persian disowning the Koran?

Okay, not Arab Spring, just a popular movement that spread throughout the Arab world to oust their dictators.

Is that okay, Issue?

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Reply #36 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:47pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:43pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:53pm:

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The Syrian war started during the Arab Spring. It's about democracy, not religion.

What utter rubbish. There never was an "Arab Spring." The term appeared as usual in journalism, where editors try to get a jump on a story. Only there was no story, just the usual religious and tribal violence. However, "Arab Spring" gives open boarder westerner progressives a rallying call, to pretend the belligerents believe in plurality and democracy. What they believe in is the Koran. When was the last time you saw Arabs and Persian disowning the Koran?

Okay, not Arab Spring, just a popular movement that spread throughout the Arab world to oust their dictators.

Is that okay, Issue?

Out with the shaven, in with the beards.

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Reply #37 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:49pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:07pm:

An she died in poverty, benefitting from some charity of Price Charles. Her closest associate was 'Anne of Green Gables' my blue rinse brigade rabid Liberal neighbour who used to visit her in that Home and Hospital she died in.

She would have had a normal pension supplemented by a War Pension ~ plenty enough to keep her happy down at the Bingo Hall on Hens Night.

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Reply #38 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:55pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:07pm:

An she died in poverty, benefitting from some charity of Price Charles. Her closest associate was 'Anne of Green Gables' my blue rinse brigade rabid Liberal neighbour who used to visit her in that Home and Hospital she died in.

She would have had a normal pension supplemented by a War Pension ~ plenty enough to keep her happy down at the Bingo Hall on Hens Night.

And the Pension (including supplement) was swallowed by that Home.

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Raqqa Reply #39 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:57pm But the question is: If they want to leave Raqqa, why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait?
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Sam Morris Junior Member Offline Posts: 52	Re: Raqqa Reply #40 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 5:10pm Whoever it was who wondered whether what happened in WW2 was as "bad" as the above ... needs to Google "France WW2" ... I can't post pictures at the moment. It was WORSE during WW2 ......
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Re: Raqqa
Reply #41 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 5:10pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:47pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:43pm:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:53pm:

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The Syrian war started during the Arab Spring. It's about democracy, not religion.

What utter rubbish. There never was an "Arab Spring." The term appeared as usual in journalism, where editors try to get a jump on a story. Only there was no story, just the usual religious and tribal violence. However, "Arab Spring" gives open boarder westerner progressives a rallying call, to pretend the belligerents believe in plurality and democracy. What they believe in is the Koran. When was the last time you saw Arabs and Persian disowning the Koran?

Okay, not Arab Spring, just a popular movement that spread throughout the Arab world to oust their dictators.

Is that okay, Issue?

Out with the shaven, in with the beards.

Strange. The Arab Spring (excuse me, Issue) started in Tunisia. In the last erection, Nidaa Tounes got in. They're officially shaved:

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The party's foundation was announced when former prime minister Beji Caid Essebsi on 20 April 2012 launched his Call for Tunisia as a response to post-revolutionary "instances of disturbing extremism and violence that threaten public and individual liberties, as well as the security of the citizens".[9] It was officially founded on 16 June 2012 and describes itself as a "modernist"[10] and "social-democratic" party of the moderate left.[11] However, it also includes notable economically liberal currents.[12][13][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisian_parliamentary_election,_2014

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Reply #42 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 5:13pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 2:07pm:

An she died in poverty, benefitting from some charity of Price Charles. Her closest associate was 'Anne of Green Gables' my blue rinse brigade rabid Liberal neighbour who used to visit her in that Home and Hospital she died in.

She would have had a normal pension supplemented by a War Pension ~ plenty enough to keep her happy down at the Bingo Hall on Hens Night.

And the Pension (including supplement) was swallowed by that Home.

Where no doubt she lived in the same sort of luxury as my neighbour who I visited for a year before she died. Freshly cooked meals by a professional kitchen staff - coach outings to places of interest - 24/7 nursing and personal care - beautiful gardens - visiting entertainers on a weekly basis - her own room with fridge and stove and hot water urn for tea and coffee. Hell - I would have moved in with her if I didn't have cats and chooks to look after ...

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Reply #43 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 5:24pm

Auggie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:57pm:

But the question is:

If they want to leave Raqqa, why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait?

I wonder too, Augie.

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As of September 2016, the number of Syrians in Saudi Arabia is estimated to be around 2.5 million,[2] [3] and consists mainly of temporary foreign workers.[4] According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees' representative for the Persian Gulf region, Syrian nationals are referred to as "Arab brothers and sisters in distress".[1] Saudi Arabia does not consider Syrians as refugees. They are provided free access to education and healthcare, and allowed to take up jobs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Saudi_Arabia

According to Wikipedia, Kuwait has 120,000. It has a population of 4 million.

You?

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Reply #44 - Feb 20^th, 2018 at 6:31pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 5:24pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 4:57pm:

But the question is:

If they want to leave Raqqa, why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or Kuwait?

I wonder too, Augie.

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As of September 2016, the number of Syrians in Saudi Arabia is estimated to be around 2.5 million,[2] [3] and consists mainly of temporary foreign workers.[4] According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees' representative for the Persian Gulf region, Syrian nationals are referred to as "Arab brothers and sisters in distress".[1] Saudi Arabia does not consider Syrians as refugees. They are provided free access to education and healthcare, and allowed to take up jobs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Saudi_Arabia

According to Wikipedia, Kuwait has 120,000. It has a population of 4 million.

You?

If you read the Wikipedia article on Saudi Arabia, it's not clear if those Syrians are refugees or were settled there beforehand. The exact number of Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia is unknown.

The fact is that Arab countries aren't taking enough refugees.

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