Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 18
th, 2018 at 4:31am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Feb 17
th, 2018 at 10:33pm:
Conservative "family" values were only really formulated in the 1950s - a phenomenon of the post-war era. While she rallied behind the family, no one did more to dismantle its economic foundations than Thatcher and the zeitgeist she worked within.
Valuing the family conservatively goes back as far as families itself. Have a read of Weber's analysis of families. He goes as far back as Medieval times. The structure of family then isn't far removed from what we would call the extended family today. Furthermore, İ have spent considerable time outside the West and İ can assure you that family values are very important there.
The repercussions of liberalism on the family were unintended. Left-wing radicals, however, set out purposely to destroy it - feminists and Marxists saw it as an insitution of 'oppression'. Feminists still do.
'Feminists' are delusional - while lambasting the 'family' as some kind of oppressive mechanism, they perpetually seek to enjoy all the benefits of family according to their own desires... more of the individual nonsense.
If they truly refused benefit of family, they would oppose women receiving support for children outside marriage, and being supported after tearing the family apart, and would, at the very base of it, not have children at all.
They should also refuse the trappings of family inherent in childcare subsidies, government benefits for children including tax concessions, and time off for family etc, since these are the State replacing the family.
Having children automatically creates a 'family' - and no one person involved in the creation of that family has or should have absolute right and control over it, and put simply, these 'feminists' could not survive in society without the continued trappings of family that they continue to receive in many ways.
A true feminist would absolutely go it alone without any assistance from anyone, but they will never do that, since they want all the cream of society and none of the dregs.
(just like the freaking Blacks telling everyone they 'own' the land they never worked or worked for, but in hating on whitey for paying to own it and use it to generate all the benefits they enjoy, like feminists, they somehow figure they can just have it all without doing anything for it or with it)