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Reply #15 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:24am
 
Setanta wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 1:11am:
Fines should be income adjusted. IE a percentage of income.


Yeah, that would make sense.
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Reply #16 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 6:27am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 1:09am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:33am:
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:29am:


He was on his phone.

Increase the fines for mobile phone use in a car to $2,000 and 6 demerit points (minimum).

Plus, confiscation and destruction of phone.


$300 is plenty for a fine. It would take a millionaire to not feel the sting of a fine of $300. And it would hurt just as little for the $2000 fine.

A co-worker of mine got done for answering his phone just as he had pulled over to answer it. The technicality was that his engine was still on. The other day, I had to pull over to phone back for a missed call. Considering the heat and humidity of that week, if I pulled up to answer/redial a missed call and was done for the sake of having a car engine running for the sake of airconditioning, I would go ballistic over a $2000 fine.

The damage is already done for this driver's negligence. If the officer could have his foot reattached like new, and all their injuries healed, I am sure a fine and a damage bill issued would be sufficient. But this guy needs gaol.


For an old car you can buy a bluetooth adaptor for less than $50 bucks most modern cars even base models all seem to have bluetooth there is no excuse for not at least using hands free, I see many on low incomes with expensive phones so there is no excuse. as for the fine does not matter what it is if its not thoroughly enforced, waiting for a major accident to apply the rule is rather pathetic.

According to studies even handsfree is still distracting I use it all the time and I kind of agree it is.

I would make a rule that insurance companies don't have to payout if you have an accident where you were using your phone especially if you were texting ! This is the rule for DUI, I know one guy who was up for an $80k bill after having a DUI accident !
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Reply #17 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 6:34am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:24am:
Setanta wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 1:11am:
Fines should be income adjusted. IE a percentage of income.


Yeah, that would make sense.


How would it make sense ?
So someone on the dole continually breaks the law with no real consequence ?
Someone working in the black economy (many on the dole do this) would get cheap fines. Don't even get started on company owners who often report little to no income .... its a dumb idea all the way round !

Easiest way to punish people is take away their license.
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Reply #18 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.
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Reply #19 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:04am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Most vehicles do, search all new cars and try to find one that does not have bluetooth as standard !

Also my previous car which I had for 11 years I used a bluetooth adaptor which cost me $30 I still have it.

The other issue is getting people to admit in an accident situation they were on their mobiles. Phones can be scrubbed .... I find it odd this guy confessed he was on his mobile. Its a weird thing people think using a mobile is a right no matter where they are makes for funny youtube videos and sadly people have died looking at their phone.
People wonder down the street in zombie mode glued to there phones I deliberately walk into them they expect you to get out of there way.

The only way I can see stopping people using their mobiles in cars is jamming devices which are currently illegal. Also they can not be limited to the car. Also there is nothing wrong with a car passenger using a mobile.


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Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:42am
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Studies all over the world have proven that hands free operation is still dangerous.

Engine on = phone off.

Simples!

My phone is put on silent, and then placed in the glove box when I drive.

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Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:42am
 
You don't need expensive jammers or anything techie, some strategicly places wire mesh in the roof lining, under the floor and in the doors would make a partial faraday cage and make a phone inside the car practically unusable (there would still be some leakage).  Radios and antenna devices would be unaffected.

It wouldn't be expensive but would people buy a car that doesn't let them use the phone when and as they like?
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Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 9:34am
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:29am:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/nsw-police-commissioner-mick-fuller-s...

So how do you not see a full Booze Bus set up ?

The driver has since been charged with dangerous driving causing grievous bodily harm, causing bodily harm by misconduct in charge of a motor vehicle, negligent driving occasioning grievous bodily harm and using a mobile phone when not permitted.

At least they threw the book at him.


These days you need eyes in the back of your head too.
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Reply #23 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 11:41am
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:29am:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/nsw-police-commissioner-mick-fuller-s...

So how do you not see a full Booze Bus set up ?

The driver has since been charged with dangerous driving causing grievous bodily harm, causing bodily harm by misconduct in charge of a motor vehicle, negligent driving occasioning grievous bodily harm and using a mobile phone when not permitted.

At least they threw the book at him.


There are lots of similar incidences like this where the offended is given police bail. I guess the lesson is don't run over a copper.


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Reply #24 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 11:45am
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:04am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Most vehicles do, search all new cars and try to find one that does not have bluetooth as standard !

Also my previous car which I had for 11 years I used a bluetooth adaptor which cost me $30 I still have it.

The other issue is getting people to admit in an accident situation they were on their mobiles. Phones can be scrubbed .... I find it odd this guy confessed he was on his mobile. Its a weird thing people think using a mobile is a right no matter where they are makes for funny youtube videos and sadly people have died looking at their phone.
People wonder down the street in zombie mode glued to there phones I deliberately walk into them they expect you to get out of there way.

The only way I can see stopping people using their mobiles in cars is jamming devices which are currently illegal. Also they can not be limited to the car. Also there is nothing wrong with a car passenger using a mobile.




There's also nothing wrong with firing off a quick text when you're in a protracted traffic delay. People should be allowed to use discretion and common sense but if phone distraction contributes or causes an accident insurance should be voided and penalties should be harsher. Simple.




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Reply #25 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Studies all over the world have proven that hands free operation is still dangerous.

Engine on = phone off.

Simples!

My phone is put on silent, and then placed in the glove box when I drive.



Peccamitty is at it again.....mr perfect...lower case.

It must be wonderful living in a perfect fantasy world full of fantasy people all thinking it/he/she/them are great.

but, in the real world, its all just a lie.

If you don't have the ability to have a conversation on the phone while driving, perhaps its you who is competently retarded.
Perhaps its you who should be off the road.

Do you just sit in your car with earplugs so other people in your car cant talk to you, how does that work with those inner voices?
Be difficult to hear all those horns of drivers you cut off or hold up with your "Lower than the speed limit" driving style.
Or do you simply drive with all your friends, in other words, alone.

What about the radio?
Or all those pesky signs, red lights, traffic lights, pedestrians, speedo, tacho, fuel gauges etc etc?

It must be soooooooooooo difficult to concentrate for you with your limited cerebral capacity.

Get off the road if you cant do more than one task at a time.

I can just imagine you attempting to ride a motorcycle.
Not only do you have to drive to avoid all the moorons on the road who dont see you, you have to
Use your body to balance the bike.
Left hand is clutch
Left foot is gears
Right hand in accelerator and brake
Right foot is rear brake
Your hands also control the blinkers, horn, lights and accessories.

You have to be able to gauge how much pressure to use on both the front and rear brakes for any given braking requirement as well as maintain the balance even while changing direction.

You would be in a whole world of hurt in a very short time.

A good driver/ rider must be able to multitask.
Otherwise you have accidents.

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Reply #26 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Studies all over the world have proven that hands free operation is still dangerous.

Engine on = phone off.

Simples!

My phone is put on silent, and then placed in the glove box when I drive.



Peccamitty is at it again.....mr perfect...lower case.

It must be wonderful living in a perfect fantasy world full of fantasy people all thinking it/he/she/them are great.

but, in the real world, its all just a lie.

If you don't have the ability to have a conversation on the phone while driving, perhaps its you who is competently retarded.
Perhaps its you who should be off the road.

Do you just sit in your car with earplugs so other people in your car cant talk to you, how does that work with those inner voices?
Be difficult to hear all those horns of drivers you cut off or hold up with your "Lower than the speed limit" driving style.
Or do you simply drive with all your friends, in other words, alone.

What about the radio?
Or all those pesky signs, red lights, traffic lights, pedestrians, speedo, tacho, fuel gauges etc etc?

It must be soooooooooooo difficult to concentrate for you with your limited cerebral capacity.

Get off the road if you cant do more than one task at a time.

I can just imagine you attempting to ride a motorcycle.
Not only do you have to drive to avoid all the moorons on the road who dont see you, you have to
Use your body to balance the bike.
Left hand is clutch
Left foot is gears
Right hand in accelerator and brake
Right foot is rear brake
Your hands also control the blinkers, horn, lights and accessories.

You have to be able to gauge how much pressure to use on both the front and rear brakes for any given braking requirement as well as maintain the balance even while changing direction.

You would be in a whole world of hurt in a very short time.

A good driver/ rider must be able to multitask.
Otherwise you have accidents.




There's no need to use a mobile phone in a car.

Most people have difficulty just obeying the speed limit, so distracting them with a phone is an accident waiting to happen.

Increase the fines to $2,000 and 6 demerit points (minimum).

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Reply #27 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
Glad to have my Terr'uh'tree back with the cruise control - bloody wheel bearing..... the Camry wagon backup is basic... hard to keep at the speed limit....
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Reply #28 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Studies all over the world have proven that hands free operation is still dangerous.

Engine on = phone off.

Simples!

My phone is put on silent, and then placed in the glove box when I drive.



Peccamitty is at it again.....mr perfect...lower case.

It must be wonderful living in a perfect fantasy world full of fantasy people all thinking it/he/she/them are great.

but, in the real world, its all just a lie.

If you don't have the ability to have a conversation on the phone while driving, perhaps its you who is competently retarded.
Perhaps its you who should be off the road.

Do you just sit in your car with earplugs so other people in your car cant talk to you, how does that work with those inner voices?
Be difficult to hear all those horns of drivers you cut off or hold up with your "Lower than the speed limit" driving style.
Or do you simply drive with all your friends, in other words, alone.

What about the radio?
Or all those pesky signs, red lights, traffic lights, pedestrians, speedo, tacho, fuel gauges etc etc?

It must be soooooooooooo difficult to concentrate for you with your limited cerebral capacity.

Get off the road if you cant do more than one task at a time.

I can just imagine you attempting to ride a motorcycle.
Not only do you have to drive to avoid all the moorons on the road who dont see you, you have to
Use your body to balance the bike.
Left hand is clutch
Left foot is gears
Right hand in accelerator and brake
Right foot is rear brake
Your hands also control the blinkers, horn, lights and accessories.

You have to be able to gauge how much pressure to use on both the front and rear brakes for any given braking requirement as well as maintain the balance even while changing direction.

You would be in a whole world of hurt in a very short time.

A good driver/ rider must be able to multitask.
Otherwise you have accidents.




There's no need to use a mobile phone in a car.

Most people have difficulty just obeying the speed limit, so distracting them with a phone is an accident waiting to happen.

Increase the fines to $2,000 and 6 demerit points (minimum).




If you cant multitask enough to have a simple conversation..
GET OFF THE ROAD.

I REITERATE;

If you don't have the ability to have a conversation on the phone while driving, perhaps its you who is competently retarded.
Perhaps its you who should be off the road.

Do you just sit in your car with earplugs so other people in your car cant talk to you, how does that work with those inner voices?
Be difficult to hear all those horns of drivers you cut off or hold up with your "Lower than the speed limit" driving style.
Or do you simply drive with all your friends, in other words, alone.

What about the radio?
Or all those pesky signs, red lights, traffic lights, pedestrians, speedo, tacho, fuel gauges etc etc?

It must be soooooooooooo difficult to concentrate for you with your limited cerebral capacity.

Get off the road if you cant do more than one task at a time.

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Reply #29 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 3:13pm
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:42am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 7:35am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:56am:
cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 11:36am:
its a shocker isnt it....so cruel so unnecessary 

one lost a leg   how bloody devastating.....

I dont know what the answer is... believe me taking away a licence doesnt keep them off the road...


maybe its time they came up with a phone that doesnt work inside a moving vehicle....

my heart goes out to these cops...


That's exactly what's needed.

As soon as the engine starts, it blocks all signals to the phone.



Is that necessary? .... every vehicle should have "bluetooth".

Hands free operation.

Even my last portable GPS has bluetooth & voice command.

Maybe phone operation could be disabled unless it's in a cradle & connected to bluetooth.


Studies all over the world have proven that hands free operation is still dangerous.

Engine on = phone off.

Simples!

My phone is put on silent, and then placed in the glove box when I drive.



Peccamitty is at it again.....mr perfect...lower case.

It must be wonderful living in a perfect fantasy world full of fantasy people all thinking it/he/she/them are great.

but, in the real world, its all just a lie.

If you don't have the ability to have a conversation on the phone while driving, perhaps its you who is competently retarded.
Perhaps its you who should be off the road.

Do you just sit in your car with earplugs so other people in your car cant talk to you, how does that work with those inner voices?
Be difficult to hear all those horns of drivers you cut off or hold up with your "Lower than the speed limit" driving style.
Or do you simply drive with all your friends, in other words, alone.

What about the radio?
Or all those pesky signs, red lights, traffic lights, pedestrians, speedo, tacho, fuel gauges etc etc?

It must be soooooooooooo difficult to concentrate for you with your limited cerebral capacity.

Get off the road if you cant do more than one task at a time.

I can just imagine you attempting to ride a motorcycle.
Not only do you have to drive to avoid all the moorons on the road who dont see you, you have to
Use your body to balance the bike.
Left hand is clutch
Left foot is gears
Right hand in accelerator and brake
Right foot is rear brake
Your hands also control the blinkers, horn, lights and accessories.

You have to be able to gauge how much pressure to use on both the front and rear brakes for any given braking requirement as well as maintain the balance even while changing direction.

You would be in a whole world of hurt in a very short time.

A good driver/ rider must be able to multitask.
Otherwise you have accidents.




There's no need to use a mobile phone in a car.

Most people have difficulty just obeying the speed limit, so distracting them with a phone is an accident waiting to happen.

Increase the fines to $2,000 and 6 demerit points (minimum).




If you cant multitask enough to have a simple conversation..
GET OFF THE ROAD.

I REITERATE;

If you don't have the ability to have a conversation on the phone while driving, perhaps its you who is competently retarded.
Perhaps its you who should be off the road.

Do you just sit in your car with earplugs so other people in your car cant talk to you, how does that work with those inner voices?
Be difficult to hear all those horns of drivers you cut off or hold up with your "Lower than the speed limit" driving style.
Or do you simply drive with all your friends, in other words, alone.

What about the radio?
Or all those pesky signs, red lights, traffic lights, pedestrians, speedo, tacho, fuel gauges etc etc?

It must be soooooooooooo difficult to concentrate for you with your limited cerebral capacity.

Get off the road if you cant do more than one task at a time.



Greg's socialist leanings are coming out by showing he thinks we all have equal driving skills.

I have very high and work proven multi-tasking abilities, the key to which is knowing when to devote more concentration to a particular task.

When I'm driving and the traffic needs more of my CPU resources I simply fade out the phone conversation. My wife on the other hand gets locked in when speaking on the phone and her arse could be on fire and she wouldn't know. Consequently she doesn't use the phone while driving.   



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