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Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm
 
Here we have it folks, an open and shut case.

Khaja himself had said he was motivated not by watching YouTube videos but "straight from the verses of Quran".



The facial expression of a would-be terrorist talking about killing as many innocent people as he could was "like he was planning a picnic", according to a Sydney judge.

Tamim Khaja, 20, who has pleaded guilty to doing an act in preparation for, or planning a terrorist act, had been to scope out potential target buildings in Sydney including the Parramatta District Court precinct and Timor Army Barracks.

At his sentencing hearing in the Supreme Court at Parramatta on Friday, Justice Desmond Fagan referred to surveillance footage of Khaja speaking with two undercover police officers.

"He is filmed talking to people he thought were of the same ideology as he directs them to Timor Barracks at Dundas, and his facial expression when talking about killing as many innocent people as he could was very much like he was planning a picnic," the judge said.

Justice Fagan described the then-teenager's face as expressionless - as it was when he spoke about having a large enough car to drive into people.

"He does seem in a state of a possessed religious fanaticism, devoid of empathy or humanity," the judge said.

He also stressed that the Muslim religion was not on trial but, as sentencing judge, he had to try and identify the source of Khaja's "depraved belief".

Khaja himself had said he was motivated not by watching YouTube videos but "straight from the verses of Quran".

At his sentence hearing on Friday, the prosecutor tendered an agreed statement of facts.

It includes numerous comments he made on an encrypted messaging application and during meetings with the two undercover officers.

In May 2016, he met the pair at Parramatta and they drove to the Pirtek Stadium car park in that suburb.

"For an attack like this is taken in Australia akhi (brother), it would weaken the Australian government so much," Khaja said.

"So that's why I am saying when I say maximum fire, I mean to take down as many of them down as I can, and at the end when I see that there's too many I will take myself with them as well."

He later said police officers were the best targets but it needn't be them.

"Honestly my heart is leaning towards the court."

Later Khaja said he would keep in mind that "it's happening for the sake of Allah" if anyone comes in his way.

"So I'm not going to stop firing. I'm not going to stop firing wallahi (I swear to Allah).

"If there's like a two-month-old baby, or someone holding a baby, I'm just trying to think if that's true, I wouldn't buckle in that situation akhi.

"No, I wouldn't buckle.

"There's no turning back akhi."

The hearing is continuing.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/terrorist-talk-was-like-planning-a-picnic-judge-201802...
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Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm
 
I wonder what mosque they went to?

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Reply #2 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:42pm
 
Another Australian terrorist, just for Brian.
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Reply #3 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Another Australian terrorist, just for Brian.


If I'm not mistaken that photo was taken from Watsons Bay.  Pricks.
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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
Oh dear

Australia has been "under attack" from a group of Muslim men wanting "to kill as many unbelievers as they can" for about 15 years, a Supreme Court judge has said.

Sitting at Sydney West Trial Courts at Parramatta, Justice Fagan referred to verses in the Koran which he said described the duty of "a Muslim to wage Jihad".

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-16/australia-under-attack-by-a-group-of-mu...
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Reply #5 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm
 
Fkkn muslims and their ideology.
He won't be the last.


Good on the judge too. Speak up and be heard.
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Reply #6 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:19am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
Oh dear

Australia has been "under attack" from a group of Muslim men wanting "to kill as many unbelievers as they can" for about 15 years, a Supreme Court judge has said.

Sitting at Sydney West Trial Courts at Parramatta, Justice Fagan referred to verses in the Koran which he said described the duty of "a Muslim to wage Jihad".

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-16/australia-under-attack-by-a-group-of-mu...


What a croc

Sitting at Sydney West Trial Courts at Parramatta, Justice Fagan referred to verses in the Koran which he said described the duty of "a Muslim to wage Jihad".

He said he was not making generalisations about Islamic beliefs and that his courtroom was "not a forum for the rights and wrongs of the Islam or Christian religions".


Firstly there is people with no religion and many other religions.

The crimes were religiously motivated and beyond that the judge should say zip ! The religion in question was Islam .... these are facts, not interested in a judges opinion just their interpretation of the facts WRT the law !

Crimes abusing religious dogma of any kind should get double the sentence. In their minds the crimes were justified by defending Islam (or their interpretation) which in law means your showing no remorse ! Hence you need to get at least the maximum.
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Reply #7 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:33am
 
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   He also stressed that the Muslim religion was not on trial but, as sentencing judge, he had to try and identify the source of Khaja's "depraved belief".      


Of course this CULT is on trial.
It is a brutal, barbaric, primitive, evil CULT the roots of which are in a self confessed paedophile, retarded nutcase sociopath.

This CULT must be eradicated
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Reply #8 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:49am
 
Valkie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:33am:
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   He also stressed that the Muslim religion was not on trial but, as sentencing judge, he had to try and identify the source of Khaja's "depraved belief".      


Of course this CULT is on trial.
It is a brutal, barbaric, primitive, evil CULT the roots of which are in a self confessed paedophile, retarded nutcase sociopath.

This CULT must be eradicated



Yes - it's a war on terrorism.

They should be put against a wall and shot.
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Reply #9 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:23am
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:19am:
Gordon wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
Oh dear

Australia has been "under attack" from a group of Muslim men wanting "to kill as many unbelievers as they can" for about 15 years, a Supreme Court judge has said.

Sitting at Sydney West Trial Courts at Parramatta, Justice Fagan referred to verses in the Koran which he said described the duty of "a Muslim to wage Jihad".

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-16/australia-under-attack-by-a-group-of-mu...


What a croc

Sitting at Sydney West Trial Courts at Parramatta, Justice Fagan referred to verses in the Koran which he said described the duty of "a Muslim to wage Jihad".

He said he was not making generalisations about Islamic beliefs and that his courtroom was "not a forum for the rights and wrongs of the Islam or Christian religions".


Firstly there is people with no religion and many other religions.

The crimes were religiously motivated and beyond that the judge should say zip ! The religion in question was Islam .... these are facts, not interested in a judges opinion just their interpretation of the facts WRT the law !

Crimes abusing religious dogma of any kind should get double the sentence. In their minds the crimes were justified by defending Islam (or their interpretation) which in law means your showing no remorse ! Hence you need to get at least the maximum.


Why did the judge refer to those verses at all?
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Reply #10 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:47am
 
Look at the eyes on this guy - he's a stoner for sure.... one way or another....

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Reply #11 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 8:01am
 
Inb4 bwian "tsk tsk dearie me, he's just misunderstood"  Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 8:50am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:47am:
Look at the eyes on this guy - he's a stoner for sure.... one way or another....

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Reply #13 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 9:29am
 
The response is always the same. His interpretation of the Koran was wrong. SBS is now touting a show about Muzlims where one of the faithful says its the individual that defines the religion, not the religion that defines the individual. So now we have a situation where these people think they can make it up as the they go along, and avoid association with the atrocities in the public perception.

Just how one remains a Muzlim without the Koran is anyone's guess, but if you were conned into believing that rubbish to begin with, you are going to look for self-esteem anyway you can get it.
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Reply #14 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 10:36am
 
Australia has been "under attack" from a group of Muslim men wanting "to kill as many unbelievers as they can" for about 15 years, a Supreme Court judge has said.
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