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Drought again
Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:24pm

I looked up some photos of my place back in 2003-4 and it's just the same again. Not a blade of grass on my small acreage.
Fortunately I've got town water so can keep fruit trees and garden alive but I shudder to think what the water bill will be.
Never mind, I'll just have to give up the Chateau Rothschild for a while.

The thing is this drought seems to have come up so.quickly and the.continuous heat wave hasn't helped. Plus there has been absolutely no relief from summer storm downpours.

Still, could rain next week.

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95270 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:45pm Hi Bogarde - it's been very dry in Melbourne lately. I wonder if we're heading for a drought here?
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:50pm Don't know. Do you get droughts down there?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16400 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 4:06pm Have a look at this - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 4:21pm http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-26/100-years-of-drought/5282030 68 was a good year, 69 nasty, I remember that
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16400 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 4:36pm "Australia suffers worst drought in 1,000 years " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/nov/08/australia.drought Compare 2006 to 1940.
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Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 7:41pm

Early Pacific Typhoon, Australian Wheat Decline & Climate Models Adjusted (532)

Adapt 2030
Published on Feb 15, 2018
Some areas of Australia have seen up to 70% reductions compared to last years output. Reasons are drought and cold related issues. Only Western Australia have made gains. Also because of this Australian wheat is expensive compared to international markets so exporters are having a difficult time finding buyers. Early season typhoon rolls across the southern Philippines and onto Vietnam. New study from University of Exeter shows IPCC warming is off by a factor of 2, meaning all of the IPCC projections are 2X to high, but you wont see that in the news.

Extreme weather leads to patchwork harvest with yields up to 70 pc down on last year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-02-06/extreme-weather-leads-to-patchwork-g...

"We had a June and September where we recorded zero rain, which is unprecedented. Then we had 65 days of frost during winter, and during September we threw a 40-degree day in there just for fun."

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Re: Drought again
Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 7:43pm

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:24pm:

I looked up some photos of my place back in 2003-4 and it's just the same again. Not a blade of grass on my small acreage.
Fortunately I've got town water so can keep fruit trees and garden alive but I shudder to think what the water bill will be.
Never mind, I'll just have to give up the Chateau Rothschild for a while.

The thing is this drought seems to have come up so.quickly and the.continuous heat wave hasn't helped. Plus there has been absolutely no relief from summer storm downpours.

Still, could rain next week.

You're Sth Highlands? I read an article about it the other day. Supposed to be as dryasanuns

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95270 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #8 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:15pm Looks like a drought is on the way. I hope our water desal plant will work? https://www.melbournewater.com.au/community-and-education/about-our-water/water-...
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Re: Drought again
Reply #9 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Looks like a drought is on the way.
I hope our water desal plant will work?

https://www.melbournewater.com.au/community-and-education/about-our-water/water-...

I knew they would have to use it one day. Cape town is experiencing a bad drought with water rationing !!

Those d.ckheads who keep denying global warming should try and shower for 30 seconds.

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Re: Drought again
Reply #10 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Looks like a drought is on the way.
I hope our water desal plant will work?

https://www.melbournewater.com.au/community-and-education/about-our-water/water-...

I knew they would have to use it one day. Cape town is experiencing a bad drought with water rationing !!

Those d.ckheads who keep denying global warming should try and shower for 30 seconds.

And Cape Town has a burgeoning population and a severe lack of infrastructure (dams) to cater for this population rise.

Do you think there were no droughts before AGW? Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:28pm

lee wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Looks like a drought is on the way.
I hope our water desal plant will work?

https://www.melbournewater.com.au/community-and-education/about-our-water/water-...

I knew they would have to use it one day. Cape town is experiencing a bad drought with water rationing !!

Those d.ckheads who keep denying global warming should try and shower for 30 seconds.

And Cape Town has a burgeoning population and a severe lack of infrastructure (dams) to cater for this population rise.

Do you think there were no droughts before AGW? Roll Eyes

The population is expanding exponentially in Melbourne.

We'll need our desal plant.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16400 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #12 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:39pm PPPPPPP Prior Preparation and Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
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Reply #13 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:01pm

You just wish you could control the weather. I have been hoping that the heat we received this week means that we get compensated with plentiful rain -- all over Qld and anywhere in drought. I am about to go out and give the grass a good spraying over with the hose. Or I could give the washing the car a go to see if there is any truth in the urban legend. The car needs a wash, anyway.

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Reply #14 - Feb 17^th, 2018 at 4:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:28pm:

lee wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Looks like a drought is on the way.
I hope our water desal plant will work?

https://www.melbournewater.com.au/community-and-education/about-our-water/water-...

I knew they would have to use it one day. Cape town is experiencing a bad drought with water rationing !!

Those d.ckheads who keep denying global warming should try and shower for 30 seconds.

And Cape Town has a burgeoning population and a severe lack of infrastructure (dams) to cater for this population rise.

Do you think there were no droughts before AGW? Roll Eyes

The population is expanding exponentially in Melbourne.

We'll need our desal plant.

According to a Megastructures documentary, Melbourne was in the process of making a desalination plant. Whatever happened to that project?

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Re: Drought again
Reply #15 - Feb 17^th, 2018 at 5:02pm

lee wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

PPPPPPP

Prior Preparation and Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

I think they need to make dams in Qld about 100km apart (or near populated areas) just to use during rain seasons, so that the farmer can save on tank water. However, you would need it to rain a bit for its success. And the costs would be prohibitive. Then the idea was thought up that we build large pipes to pipe water from coastal areas to these inland areas. However, the idea is that much of the water would evaporate in the pipes before it got to the inland areas.... and the costs would be prohibitive.

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Reply #16 - Feb 18^th, 2018 at 2:30pm

Wa would be stuffed without desal.

Stream flows in our water supply dams have decreased by 90%

We have 10% of the flows we originally had.

No point in building new dams,,, in fact the Water Authority has sold off land that was destined to be catchment area because they are not building some dams and the land is no longer required.

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Re: Drought again
Reply #17 - Feb 18^th, 2018 at 3:11pm

The main problem with WA dams is, apart from less rainfall, that the catchment area is no longer cleared. That reduces streamflow into the dams significantly.

"The catchments were set up as clearing experiments in the Collie River Basin in the early 1970s. A catchment pair was instrumented in the high rainfall zone (1100mm/yr), and three catchments in the intermediate rainfall zone (700
mm/yr). Following clearing the discharge coefficient has risen by a factor of 5 in the wetter catchments, and about 10in the intermediate rainfall catchments. Some of this increase occurs almost immediately following clearing, before there is a significant rise in the watertable."

http://ewater.org.au/archive/crcch/archive/pubs/pdfs/technical200404.pdf

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Reply #18 - Feb 19^th, 2018 at 1:28am

miketrees wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

Wa would be stuffed without desal.

Stream flows in our water supply dams have decreased by 90%

We have 10% of the flows we originally had.

No point in building new dams,,, in fact the Water Authority has sold off land that was destined to be catchment area because they are not building some dams and the land is no longer required.

Are those two recent cyclones, you have been getting in WA, been able to fill those dams? Or are they missing your area?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16400 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #19 - Feb 19^th, 2018 at 10:26am The dams are in the south of the state and not affectedby the cyclones.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #20 - Feb 19^th, 2018 at 4:55pm It pretty rare for the cyclones to get over the dams, usually they slide down well east of the Darling Range.
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Re: Drought again
Reply #21 - Feb 27^th, 2018 at 5:39am

hows that drought going up north?

im hearing about a lot of rains etc.. floods

anywhere near you Bog?

read this...

https://www.bookdepository.com/Kidman-The-Forgotten-King-Jill-Bowen/978073228610...

it shows you how Kidman used his knowledge of Australian droughts and floods that made him the Cattle King of australia..

absolutely brilliant...

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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Drought again Reply #22 - Mar 4^th, 2018 at 12:05pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:45pm: Hi Bogarde - it's been very dry in Melbourne lately. I wonder if we're heading for a drought here? It has been dry in Melbourne lately. We've had just 3 mm in the past 5 weeks But that's not too uncommon at this time of year
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