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Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:15pm

Armageddon - or when driverless car meets unpredictable human-driven car.

Think about the programming. All the possible scenarios with uncontrolled intersections, lane changing & overtaking, cultural differences between age groups, city & country drivers, driving through Lakemba, parking space hustles & so on. Endless possible indecision.

Safer just to take everybody's licence away and give them a driverless car.

Or maybe God does subcontract programming.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95287 Melbourne Gender:	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 3:48pm Ask God a question:
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 5:50pm When people start.coming face to face with driverless cars there will be all kinds of indecisionand unpredictable actions.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:58pm There are already cars driving themselves around our roads, mixing with trucks, old ladies, dogs etc. They only kill people occasionally.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21731 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:34pm I can imagine the antivirus software that people will sell to these car owners to make sure that the car does not go haywire on the highway.
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Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:44pm

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

There are already cars driving themselves around our roads, mixing with trucks, old ladies, dogs etc. They only kill people occasionally.

I think its impossible for a computer to drive as well as a human in heavy traffic.
A computer doesn't have consciousness -
it can't account for some mad driver who does the unexpected manoeuvre near you.

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Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

There are already cars driving themselves around our roads, mixing with trucks, old ladies, dogs etc. They only kill people occasionally.

I think its impossible for a computer to drive as well as a human in heavy traffic.
A computer doesn't have consciousness -
it can't account for some mad driver who does the unexpected manoeuvre near you.

Yes they can Bobby. And it won't be too long till they can do it better than a person. You don't need a soul to keep one metal box away from another.

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Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:53pm

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

There are already cars driving themselves around our roads, mixing with trucks, old ladies, dogs etc. They only kill people occasionally.

I think its impossible for a computer to drive as well as a human in heavy traffic.
A computer doesn't have consciousness -
it can't account for some mad driver who does the unexpected manoeuvre near you.

Yes they can Bobby. And it won't be too long till they can do it better than a person. You don't need a soul to keep one metal box away from another.

Really?

Can they understand that a school bus has just stopped 100 meters
ahead & a kid might run out across the road from in front of the bus into the path of your car?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #8 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:55pm Do you only drive carefully when there is a school bus around bobby? Don't forget, every day we get in our cars and share the road with complete and utter morons travelling at high speed. It only kills us occasionally.
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Reply #9 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:03pm

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:55pm:

Do you only drive carefully when there is a school bus around bobby?

Don't forget, every day we get in our cars and share the road with complete and utter morons traveling at high speed.
It only kills us occasionally.

No - I just gave you one small example of where consciousness is required.

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Setanta Gold Member Online \/ Peace man! Posts: 15916 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #10 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:32pm Computers fly all those airliners everyday around the world and it's one of the safest ways to travel.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95287 Melbourne Gender:	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #11 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:35pm Setanta wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:32pm: Computers fly all those airliners everyday around the world and it's one of the safest ways to travel. True - but when the plane lands the captain has the controls.
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Reply #12 - Feb 16^th, 2018 at 12:08am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:32pm:

Computers fly all those airliners everyday around the world and it's one of the safest ways to travel.

True - but when the plane lands the captain has the controls.

I'm pretty sure they don't and that they are only backups.

Edit: I decided to google...

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Question: Can large commercial airliners be landed with only computers and no pilot intervention?

-- submitted by reader Raymond, Charlotte, N.C.

Answer: Many modern airplanes can autoland. These new generation jets can fly the approach, flare, touch down, track the centerline of the runway, apply brakes and deploy the ground spoilers. They cannot apply thrust reverse and cannot turn off the runway.

It requires significant pilot input to set up the autoflight systems for the approach, and to arm the proper modes of the systems. I would not say there is no pilot intervention, but it is accurate to say the pilots are not manually flying.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/cox/2014/02/09/autoland-low-visi...

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Re: We will have to hire God
Reply #13 - Feb 16^th, 2018 at 5:50am

Setanta wrote on Feb 16^th, 2018 at 12:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:35pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:32pm:

Computers fly all those airliners everyday around the world and it's one of the safest ways to travel.

True - but when the plane lands the captain has the controls.

I'm pretty sure they don't and that they are only backups.

Edit: I decided to google...

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Question: Can large commercial airliners be landed with only computers and no pilot intervention?

-- submitted by reader Raymond, Charlotte, N.C.

Answer: Many modern airplanes can autoland. These new generation jets can fly the approach, flare, touch down, track the centerline of the runway, apply brakes and deploy the ground spoilers. They cannot apply thrust reverse and cannot turn off the runway.

It requires significant pilot input to set up the autoflight systems for the approach, and to arm the proper modes of the systems. I would not say there is no pilot intervention, but it is accurate to say the pilots are not manually flying.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/columnist/cox/2014/02/09/autoland-low-visi...

I believe the large commercial jets can land by computer only but
the rules don't allow it.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: We will have to hire God Reply #14 - Feb 16^th, 2018 at 6:54am They don't even make airbags safe but we should be happy that the car coming towards us has nobody in the drivers seat? (Not even a woman?) I just hope a Toyota will be able to understand a Mercedes and won't be using Tokyo road rules in NSW.
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