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Re: Australian machine gun
Reply #15 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:58am

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 9:43am:

Now you're 'embarrassing yourself' idiot. The Sten is a lightweight sub-machine gun......

Look it up you fvvkwit.

If you're talking to me I'm well aware of what the Sten gun is, and how its not the Bren gun.

The Sten as a sub machine gun where the magazine inserted on the left hand side of the barrel.

The Bren was a light machine gun derived from a Czech design where the magazine inserted on the top of the barrel. The Bren name is not a shortening of British Sten, but from Br for Brno and En for Enfield Arms.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: Australian machine gun Reply #16 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:03am I never said it was a shortening of the name idiot.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Australian machine gun Reply #17 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:05am Fuzzball wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:34am: Incidentally, that gun is just a variation of the British Sten Gun......sometimes referred to as a Bren Gun.......... No this is incorrect.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Australian machine gun Reply #18 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:06am Fuzzball wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 10:03am: I never said it was a shortening of the name idiot. Either way...wrong.
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Re: Australian machine gun
Reply #19 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 2:33pm

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:32am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14^th, 2018 at 9:20pm:

I've handled and fired an Owen Gun. Very nice, albeit a little heavy weapon. Interesting strip and assemble sequence. It was the best SMG in WWII. It could be immersed in mud, sand, burnt and it would still work. It lead the way in post-war SMG design and many aspects of it's design were copied in the Patchet and Stirling SMGs.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 12:29am:

assumptions in your posts that are false. So, so, silly. If you want to live in the USA, go for it. However, Australia is a much more peaceful society, by and large, and householders don't need SMGs or shotguns - thankfully.

Why are you such a contradictory fvvkwit bwwwwian?

It's okay for you to expound about your little foray into firing that weapon, and then whine about a 'more peaceful society' where guns have no place when somebody else posts on the subject.........you're an idiot!

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Resorting to ad hominem debate? Tsk, tsk. I offered my experience from when I served in the Australian Army. The Owen was owned by a Range Control where I learnt to administer a Static Mechanical Range (SMR). If you were liked, they would occasionally bring it and an Austen SMG out and allow you to fire them. I was so lucky. I have no worries with members of the military being allowed to fire fully automatic weapons. However, for civilians, it is illegal (and for good reason, too). Roll Eyes

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Re: Australian machine gun
Reply #20 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 2:40pm

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 15^th, 2018 at 8:34am:

Incidentally, that gun is just a variation of the British Sten Gun......sometimes referred to as a Bren Gun..........

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You really are quite ignorant, aren't you? The Sten or "Woolworth's Gun" as the British Army named it was far more primitive in it's construction and action than the Owen Gun was. The Owen Gun featured spiral cut outs in it's bolt, which allowed it to clear obstructions which would normally prevent a Sten Gun from from firing, such as sand or mud. The Owen also featured a positive safety lock, which prevented the bolt from cycling if the weapon was dropped or jerked. It was a much better manufactured weapon, overall, than the Sten Gun.

Oh, and the Bren Gun was a Light Machine Gun (LMG). It fired a full sized rifle calibre round (.303in initially and later 7.62x51mm). It's action was completely different, not being a "blowback" weapon but a gas operation (ie it tapped gas from near the muzzle to impart energy to a separate gas piston). I have also fired the Bren Gun in both .303in and 7.62x51mm calibre. Roll Eyes

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20720 ACT Gender:	Re: Australian machine gun Reply #21 - Feb 15^th, 2018 at 2:46pm Poor old Fuzzball shown to be an idiot! Brian despite his faults does know a bit about the military, guns etc.
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